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1kswolff
American politician and walking punchline Michele "Crazypants" Bachmann misquotes both the Scriptures and John Adams:
http://www.politicususa.com/en/michele-bachmann-manages-to-misquote-both-scriptu...
One has to respect the talent to misquote multiple sources. Shine on, ya crazy diamond.
http://www.politicususa.com/en/michele-bachmann-manages-to-misquote-both-scriptu...
One has to respect the talent to misquote multiple sources. Shine on, ya crazy diamond.
3CliffBurns
William Shatner performing "O Canada"?
http://www.nfb.ca/film/william_shatner_sings_o_canada/?ec=en20110518
http://www.nfb.ca/film/william_shatner_sings_o_canada/?ec=en20110518
5CliffBurns
Some lovely editions of Evelyn Waugh available through Abebooks:
http://www.abebooks.com/books/brideshead-revisited-prose-travel-vile-bodies/evel...
http://www.abebooks.com/books/brideshead-revisited-prose-travel-vile-bodies/evel...
6kswolff
5: Those are pretty editions. Hmmm, indeed. The recent reprints have illustrations that preserve that same spirit.
7CliffBurns
Anyone want to offer words of advice to these folks:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/story/2011/06/06/sk-book-collection.h...
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/story/2011/06/06/sk-book-collection.h...
8kswolff
This is based on the assumption that floor to ceiling books is a bad thing. That attitude sounds more American than Canadian.
9heatherhoarder
I don't get why they've considered burning them. Can't they give them to goodwill? or sell a lot containing 350,000 unsorted books on ebay?
10CliffBurns
But someone still has to sort them...box them up and mail 'em, once they're sold.
11beardo
Last summer, a distant relative died and I was left with the task of dealing with his accumulation of books. !5,000 books, when boxed, needed two trips with a U-Haul cube van to move. Although all the books could probably have been crammed in the van in one trip, the weight of the boxes necessitated two trips.
After loading them onto the truck, unloading, sorting, reboxing and then taking the unwanted to various charity/goodwill shops, I spent over fifty hours on the damned things. And that was only for 15,000. I don't even want to imagine the space, time and money it would take for 350,000 - all for the vague hope that there might be something of value. It is more likely like there would be thousands of old cookbooks, guides for fad diets from the 50s and 60s, memoirs penned by long-forgotten celebrities and politicians (you know, that local T.V. anchor or state politician from the 70s), as well as outdated science and pop psychology texts. Here on LT it's easy to forget, especially when browsing the more "snobbish" libraries, just how many "time-sensitive" books are produced each year. They often end up in the possession of compulsive book hoarders - especially when they're priced so low by people desperate to unload them.
After loading them onto the truck, unloading, sorting, reboxing and then taking the unwanted to various charity/goodwill shops, I spent over fifty hours on the damned things. And that was only for 15,000. I don't even want to imagine the space, time and money it would take for 350,000 - all for the vague hope that there might be something of value. It is more likely like there would be thousands of old cookbooks, guides for fad diets from the 50s and 60s, memoirs penned by long-forgotten celebrities and politicians (you know, that local T.V. anchor or state politician from the 70s), as well as outdated science and pop psychology texts. Here on LT it's easy to forget, especially when browsing the more "snobbish" libraries, just how many "time-sensitive" books are produced each year. They often end up in the possession of compulsive book hoarders - especially when they're priced so low by people desperate to unload them.
12CliffBurns
Yeah, I think there should be a better differentiation (in the article and elsewhere) between a book collector and a hoarder. A book collector is discriminating, disciplined and , for the most part, of sound mind. Hoarding is a type of mental illness and I'm willing to bet a good many of the books in this particular collection fall into the categories my colleague Beardo describes: trashy, out-of-date tomes, READER'S DIGEST "condensed" novels; bought bulk, crammed into whatever space was available.
13kswolff
12: What's wrong with trashy out-of-date tomes? I enjoy my collection of Erik von Daniken and Victorian smut.
14heatherhoarder
I fall into the category of trashy and out-of-date
15anna_in_pdx
14: LOL! are you slumming here on this list ... like me????
17heatherhoarder
15: hehe, just playing around
18heatherhoarder
16: that place looks awesome
19beardo
War, famine, poverty, social inequality, sustainability issues and any number of other pressing and legitimate issues confront us. So it is enlightening, if unsurprising, to see that at least one academic hasn't let these real concerns distract him from his pursuit of antisemitic and racist Smurfs. Sheesh.
20kswolff
19: I never knew Ferdinand Celine wrote Gargamel's dialogue?
21CliffBurns
I have a theory that people who denounce conspiracy theories are part of the conspiracy:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-13682082
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-13682082
22kswolff
21: So who put you up to say that? The Illuminati? Freemasons? Knights Templar, Poutine Division, Saskatoon Local 107?
23anna_in_pdx
The article was an interesting read. I used to read Aaronovich regularly when I lived overseas and he's a good writer.
I think the other guy has a point though. Like cartels and monopolies, private groups that wield great power because of their financial holdings are dangerous to the public good. Their meetings are not transparent and it is not a fair assumption that what they decide to do is (using the arguments from the article) either trivial or positive.
One person quoted in the article pointed out that the tendency of such groups as the Bilderburgers is to continue making a fetish out of free market capitalism, this has impacts on public policies and on how people's assumptions are formed. Those who dismiss all disquiet about such things as antisemitic uninformed silliness are not really engaging that side of the issue.
I think the other guy has a point though. Like cartels and monopolies, private groups that wield great power because of their financial holdings are dangerous to the public good. Their meetings are not transparent and it is not a fair assumption that what they decide to do is (using the arguments from the article) either trivial or positive.
One person quoted in the article pointed out that the tendency of such groups as the Bilderburgers is to continue making a fetish out of free market capitalism, this has impacts on public policies and on how people's assumptions are formed. Those who dismiss all disquiet about such things as antisemitic uninformed silliness are not really engaging that side of the issue.
24CliffBurns
Any cabal of powerful people is deserving of scrutiny.
25anna_in_pdx
Interesting article on NPR about the Supreme Court justices and what they think about writing.
http://www.npr.org/2011/06/13/137036622/skip-the-legalese-and-keep-it-short-just...
A key quote (several paras long) that I thought everyone here would enjoy:
"The only good way to learn about writing is to read good writing," says Chief Justice John Roberts.
That sentiment is echoed by Breyer, who points to Proust, Stendhal and Montesquieu as his inspirations. Justice Anthony Kennedy loves Hemingway, Shakespeare, Solzhenitsyn, Dickens and Trollope.
Justice Thomas says a good legal brief reminds him of the TV show 24. Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg says one of the great influences on her writing was her European literature professor at Cornell, Vladimir Nabokov — yes, the same Nabokov who later rocked the literary world with his widely acclaimed novel Lolita.
"He was a man in love with the sound of words," Ginsburg said. "He changed the way I read, the way I write."
Many of the justices admit to linguistic pet peeves. Kennedy hates adverbs and disdains nouns that are converted to verbs — "incentivize," for example. Scalia readily admits to being a snoot.
"Snoots are those who are nitpickers for the mot juste, for using a word precisely the way it should be used, not dulling it by misuse," said Scalia, adding, "I'm a snoot."
That contrasts with Thomas, who, when asked by interviewer Bryan Garner whether he would describe himself as a word lover, replied: "Not particularly. ... I like buses and football and cars."
http://www.npr.org/2011/06/13/137036622/skip-the-legalese-and-keep-it-short-just...
A key quote (several paras long) that I thought everyone here would enjoy:
"The only good way to learn about writing is to read good writing," says Chief Justice John Roberts.
That sentiment is echoed by Breyer, who points to Proust, Stendhal and Montesquieu as his inspirations. Justice Anthony Kennedy loves Hemingway, Shakespeare, Solzhenitsyn, Dickens and Trollope.
Justice Thomas says a good legal brief reminds him of the TV show 24. Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg says one of the great influences on her writing was her European literature professor at Cornell, Vladimir Nabokov — yes, the same Nabokov who later rocked the literary world with his widely acclaimed novel Lolita.
"He was a man in love with the sound of words," Ginsburg said. "He changed the way I read, the way I write."
Many of the justices admit to linguistic pet peeves. Kennedy hates adverbs and disdains nouns that are converted to verbs — "incentivize," for example. Scalia readily admits to being a snoot.
"Snoots are those who are nitpickers for the mot juste, for using a word precisely the way it should be used, not dulling it by misuse," said Scalia, adding, "I'm a snoot."
That contrasts with Thomas, who, when asked by interviewer Bryan Garner whether he would describe himself as a word lover, replied: "Not particularly. ... I like buses and football and cars."
27Jargoneer
>19 beardo: - I went to a show at the Edinburgh Festival a few years ago and the comedienne did a show on Belgium (her family came from there) - one of the exhibits was the black smurf, which looked savage and came in its own cage.
28CliffBurns
Humor in Nazi Germany:
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/review/142571-dead-funny-humor-in-hitlers-germany-b...
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/review/142571-dead-funny-humor-in-hitlers-germany-b...
29kswolff
But are there dancing numbers like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K08akOt2kuo&playnext=1&list=PL5C853D535FC...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K08akOt2kuo&playnext=1&list=PL5C853D535FC...
30CliffBurns
A job from Hell (courtesy Gord):
http://thefastertimes.com/news/2011/06/16/aol-hell-an-aol-content-slave-speaks-o...
http://thefastertimes.com/news/2011/06/16/aol-hell-an-aol-content-slave-speaks-o...
31kswolff
Or the fact that we were paid to lie, actually instructed to lie by our bosses
What does AOL think it is? The CIA under George Tenet? The nerve of this slave-drivers. New Grub Street has gone digital and revolution will not be televised. In fact, the revolution has been crushed ... brought to you by Jamba Juice.
What does AOL think it is? The CIA under George Tenet? The nerve of this slave-drivers. New Grub Street has gone digital and revolution will not be televised. In fact, the revolution has been crushed ... brought to you by Jamba Juice.
32anna_in_pdx
Wow, that was so depressing. I can't imagine having such a job. My rather dull office job seems heavenly in comparison.
34kswolff
33: Finally! A place to put all my Harold Robbins and Warhammer 40K books!
35CliffBurns
Bibliophile heaven!
36beardo
The latest list of its kind:
The 30 harshest author on author insults in history
At some I laughed, at others I cringed. I imagined the dismissive comments about the "cult of Nabokov" this list would provoke. A fun read.
The 30 harshest author on author insults in history
At some I laughed, at others I cringed. I imagined the dismissive comments about the "cult of Nabokov" this list would provoke. A fun read.
37kswolff
30: Check out Fighting Words, an anthology of such author on author insults. Proof that authors and "the literary set" aren't all latte-drinking, New York Times-reading, Prius-driving genteel intellectuals. Set William F. Buckley and Gore Vidal in the same room and watch the teeth fly.
Note: the video quality is awful, but the audio (more important anyway) is fine for this Celebrity Deathmatch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYymnxoQnf8
And the idea of a fey WASP like William F. Buckley threatening to punch out anybody is hilarious. Although truth be told, Henry James novels needed more bare-knuckle boxing sequences.
Note: the video quality is awful, but the audio (more important anyway) is fine for this Celebrity Deathmatch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYymnxoQnf8
And the idea of a fey WASP like William F. Buckley threatening to punch out anybody is hilarious. Although truth be told, Henry James novels needed more bare-knuckle boxing sequences.
38iansales
Canada getting its revenge for Peter Watts? US comics fan charged with child porn for having manga on his iPad.
39kswolff
38: Is Peter Watts up for a beatification by the Vatican? I think I missed the middle part.
The news story does point towards an interesting precedent: Are we to consider animated characters human beings? The comics fan's personal taste aside, how is term "child porn" being defined? (And is the Catholic Church writing friend of the court briefs in his defense?) What next? Should I look out for police if I put the works of Balthus on my iPad? Or read Lolita on my Kindle? Child porn -- especially when actual children, not pictorial representations thereof -- is obviously damaging and evil, but the news story does give me a creeping feeling of dictatorship and censorship.
The news story does point towards an interesting precedent: Are we to consider animated characters human beings? The comics fan's personal taste aside, how is term "child porn" being defined? (And is the Catholic Church writing friend of the court briefs in his defense?) What next? Should I look out for police if I put the works of Balthus on my iPad? Or read Lolita on my Kindle? Child porn -- especially when actual children, not pictorial representations thereof -- is obviously damaging and evil, but the news story does give me a creeping feeling of dictatorship and censorship.
40CliffBurns
For those of you who like your science on the straaaaaange side:
http://hplusmagazine.com/2011/06/24/an-ecstatic-dialogue/
http://hplusmagazine.com/2011/06/24/an-ecstatic-dialogue/
41anna_in_pdx
Hemingway knew what was going on:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/02/opinion/02hotchner.html?pagewanted=1&_r=2
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/02/opinion/02hotchner.html?pagewanted=1&_r=2
42CliffBurns
Good article.
It's interesting to re-read Hunter S. Thompson's insightful piece on Hemingway's suicide in Ketchum...and then fast forward to Hunter taking his own life, for many of the same reasons.
It's interesting to re-read Hunter S. Thompson's insightful piece on Hemingway's suicide in Ketchum...and then fast forward to Hunter taking his own life, for many of the same reasons.
43CliffBurns
A chilling commercial on the importance of clean, safe water:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq9mw8wR-1Q&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq9mw8wR-1Q&feature=youtu.be
44CliffBurns
http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/laurann-dohner-signs-75-book-deal-with-ello...
Granted, rather than a "Hmmmm" this might be more of a "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!"
Granted, rather than a "Hmmmm" this might be more of a "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!"
45kswolff
44: I see nothing wrong with "erotic romance." Not really my thing, but whatever. "75 book deal"? WTF? There's a fine line between being prolific and being a sausage factory; looks like the romance biz chose the latter by a long shot. Reminds me of Robert Silverberg churning out his softcore shlock for the cheapo paperback biz back in the 60s. Alas, I shouldn't be expected to find quality in any of Ms. Dohner's works?
46CliffBurns
A positive look at "fan fiction":
http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,2081784,00.html
I dunno....
http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,2081784,00.html
I dunno....
49CliffBurns
Why did Japan surrender:
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2011/08/07/why_did_japan_surren...
Another great find from me pal, Gord.
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2011/08/07/why_did_japan_surren...
Another great find from me pal, Gord.
50Sandydog1
Interesting. And we all laughed when we heard the same explanation (Russia declared war on Japan, and a few days later Japan surrendered) in Soviet era school books.
51CliffBurns
It's a nutty world, innit?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/08/17/taliban-contracts-us-military.html
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/08/17/taliban-contracts-us-military.html
52kswolff
51: Why? The Taliban and the Tea Party agree on just about everything: opposed to gay rights, women's rights, worker rights, religious rights, etc., except that the Taliban are willing to take govt funds, which makes them, at least to the inbred knuckle-dragging sages of the Tea Party, "socialist gays."
Best country in the world, eh?
http://www.thepaincomics.com/It%20May%20Not%20Be%20a%20Perfect%20System.JPG
Best country in the world, eh?
http://www.thepaincomics.com/It%20May%20Not%20Be%20a%20Perfect%20System.JPG
54CliffBurns
A thrilling moment in time, as crucial as the fall of the Berlin Wall:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14589691
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14589691
55kswolff
OED deems terms like "cassette player" and "video jockey" as obsolete:
http://www.avclub.com/articles/dictionary-retires-the-obsolete-terms-cassette-pl...
http://www.avclub.com/articles/dictionary-retires-the-obsolete-terms-cassette-pl...
57CliffBurns
Theodore Dreiser, one of the two best novelists of the 20th century?
Um...no?
Um...no?
58kswolff
His books were long and they were about IMPORTANT ISSUES! I guess that suits the hacks and short-sighted greedheads working at Rupert Murdoch's capitalist-porn tabloid, the Wall Street Journal. The stuff I wipe my ass with has more journalistic integrity than that paper.
59anna_in_pdx
56: that article is really silly-sounding and reads mostly as "I hate those pseuds in the English department who didn't give me tenure..." He is merely lashing out first at multiculturalism, then at English depts themselves, and almost parenthetically taking a jab at leftism with the crack about Marxists who still haunt the E dpt -- jeez, what a lot of negativity and his overall point being...? "Bring back the old white male canon"? Who really can tell...and who cares.
60CliffBurns
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-14677418
Gord, again. A little floating piece of history. A fragment of the past, clinging stubbornly to 21st century...
Gord, again. A little floating piece of history. A fragment of the past, clinging stubbornly to 21st century...
61CliffBurns
The return of "airships":
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/futuristic-airships-built-north-134844914.html
I love dirigibles/zeppelins, whatever you want to call them. The more the merrier, as far as I'm concerned.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/futuristic-airships-built-north-134844914.html
I love dirigibles/zeppelins, whatever you want to call them. The more the merrier, as far as I'm concerned.
62ajsomerset
59: On the contrary, his conservatism and his questionable taste in novelists of the century aside, he is raising the banner of the literary snob and railing against the way in which University English departments have been taken over and converted into cultural-political studies departments. His complaint is not new, and has been repeated often both outside and inside academe.
A recently retired English prof of decidedly non-conservative politics told me last year that his former department was "the last place on earth where you can still find Marxists and people who think that deconstruction is the cutting edge." A young English prof told me recently that The Sentimentalists, while it is a thoroughly shitty novel, will be the subject of dozens of papers over the next year written by eager young academics convinced that its baffling unreadability is the mark of a truly great novel. He reminds me also that Kathleen Winter's sentimental and misandrist Annabel is written for classroom use as much as for commercial appeal.
I recently read a review of a new general anthology of Canlit, which pointed out that the anthology contained not one work by a white male writer. If the anthologists, both professors at U of T, are to be believed, not one white male writer in Canada has produced any work worth including in an anthology of our best writers. This boggles the mind, until you realize that the anthologists are preoccupied with questions of Identity, and white males, by definition, do not have an Identity.
The preoccupation with politics and context pushes to the forefront some thoroughly forgettable writers, whose sole contribution to literature is the colour of their skin or the nature of their genitalia. Attitudes learned in universities are carried out into the world of books. This is how M.G. Vassanji can win the Giller Prize twice, despite the fact that his books are completely unreadable. Vassanji can't fucking write, yet he is considered a Major Canadian Writer because of those Giller wins and his place in curricula -- a place that is assured not by the dismal quality of his writing, but by his skin colour and country of birth.
That article expresses several central tenets of literary snobbery. It holds that something does indeed separate high culture from low, and that the quality of a work is more important than the fashionability of its themes. And I believe these truths will outlive the bullshit artists who have taken over the study of literature. Their ideas are already yesterday's theory. We will soon be moving on.
A recently retired English prof of decidedly non-conservative politics told me last year that his former department was "the last place on earth where you can still find Marxists and people who think that deconstruction is the cutting edge." A young English prof told me recently that The Sentimentalists, while it is a thoroughly shitty novel, will be the subject of dozens of papers over the next year written by eager young academics convinced that its baffling unreadability is the mark of a truly great novel. He reminds me also that Kathleen Winter's sentimental and misandrist Annabel is written for classroom use as much as for commercial appeal.
I recently read a review of a new general anthology of Canlit, which pointed out that the anthology contained not one work by a white male writer. If the anthologists, both professors at U of T, are to be believed, not one white male writer in Canada has produced any work worth including in an anthology of our best writers. This boggles the mind, until you realize that the anthologists are preoccupied with questions of Identity, and white males, by definition, do not have an Identity.
The preoccupation with politics and context pushes to the forefront some thoroughly forgettable writers, whose sole contribution to literature is the colour of their skin or the nature of their genitalia. Attitudes learned in universities are carried out into the world of books. This is how M.G. Vassanji can win the Giller Prize twice, despite the fact that his books are completely unreadable. Vassanji can't fucking write, yet he is considered a Major Canadian Writer because of those Giller wins and his place in curricula -- a place that is assured not by the dismal quality of his writing, but by his skin colour and country of birth.
That article expresses several central tenets of literary snobbery. It holds that something does indeed separate high culture from low, and that the quality of a work is more important than the fashionability of its themes. And I believe these truths will outlive the bullshit artists who have taken over the study of literature. Their ideas are already yesterday's theory. We will soon be moving on.
63anna_in_pdx
OK AJ,
Can't react to books I have not read, but I will note that the LT audience seems to totally agree with you on the Sentimentalists which has not a positive review on the site (16 out of 16 "meh" reviews) while Annabel has nothing but enthusiastic positives, many of whom specifically are reacting to the writing style. However I defer to you as someone who has actually read/heard of both works. I am not very up on Canadian lit, my exposure being limited to Robertson Davies and Margaret Atwood.
However I don't feel that the canon has really been destroyed by focusing on others besides white males. I think there are many fine writers from both genders and from many different ethnic groups. I have enjoyed reading books by people such as Vikram Seth or Amitav Ghosh, or by the many terrific female writers I've had the pleasure of reading, and this does not keep me from loving all my dead white male authors too. If Canada is specifically excluding white males from all book prizes that is obviously silly and very much a question of overkill. But, I have not really seen that happening in the US. Which is where the author was writing about.
Can't react to books I have not read, but I will note that the LT audience seems to totally agree with you on the Sentimentalists which has not a positive review on the site (16 out of 16 "meh" reviews) while Annabel has nothing but enthusiastic positives, many of whom specifically are reacting to the writing style. However I defer to you as someone who has actually read/heard of both works. I am not very up on Canadian lit, my exposure being limited to Robertson Davies and Margaret Atwood.
However I don't feel that the canon has really been destroyed by focusing on others besides white males. I think there are many fine writers from both genders and from many different ethnic groups. I have enjoyed reading books by people such as Vikram Seth or Amitav Ghosh, or by the many terrific female writers I've had the pleasure of reading, and this does not keep me from loving all my dead white male authors too. If Canada is specifically excluding white males from all book prizes that is obviously silly and very much a question of overkill. But, I have not really seen that happening in the US. Which is where the author was writing about.
64ajsomerset
However I don't feel that the canon has really been destroyed by focusing on others besides white males.
I agree. But that's not what's really at issue here. What's at issue is how we find value in a book.
I wouldn't say that Canada is excluding white males from book prizes, but they are being largely excluded from academic study. And this is not because of the quality of their work. It's because the study of English literature has become fascinated with gender and race in place of literature itself. This is why Mordecai Richler is not read in Canadian Literature courses, while M.G. Vassanji is.
From what I hear, this problem is not unique to Canada -- although outside of academe, the US seems to be incredibly efficient at excluding women from critical acclaim.
I agree. But that's not what's really at issue here. What's at issue is how we find value in a book.
I wouldn't say that Canada is excluding white males from book prizes, but they are being largely excluded from academic study. And this is not because of the quality of their work. It's because the study of English literature has become fascinated with gender and race in place of literature itself. This is why Mordecai Richler is not read in Canadian Literature courses, while M.G. Vassanji is.
From what I hear, this problem is not unique to Canada -- although outside of academe, the US seems to be incredibly efficient at excluding women from critical acclaim.
65anna_in_pdx
So are we talking about who is writing the books, or whether the subject matter is race/gender?
If the problem is that books specifically about race/gender (particularly when written by an approved minority) are getting all the attention of the literature depts while books on other subject matter are ignored, this seems a legit critique I guess, if it is really true and not greatly exaggerated. Of course I can't comment on Canada and will assume your comments make sense there, but I don't really think they apply, at least not to that level, here in the US.
I do have a problem with conflating the two issues, and would like to point out that publishers are often guilty of doing so (for example, getting black reviewers of novels written by black people, or female reviewers for novels written by women) which may add fuel to the perception of lit departments. The writer of the screed to which I was reacting didn't do a very good job of being specific about what he was bewailing. Except, of course, those sneaky Marxists.
If the problem is that books specifically about race/gender (particularly when written by an approved minority) are getting all the attention of the literature depts while books on other subject matter are ignored, this seems a legit critique I guess, if it is really true and not greatly exaggerated. Of course I can't comment on Canada and will assume your comments make sense there, but I don't really think they apply, at least not to that level, here in the US.
I do have a problem with conflating the two issues, and would like to point out that publishers are often guilty of doing so (for example, getting black reviewers of novels written by black people, or female reviewers for novels written by women) which may add fuel to the perception of lit departments. The writer of the screed to which I was reacting didn't do a very good job of being specific about what he was bewailing. Except, of course, those sneaky Marxists.
66CliffBurns
I CAN comment on Canada and testify that "place and race" are more important here than actual literary quality. Drop in a few Canadian place names, feature a minority or "oppressed group" in your book and you are a literary GOD in our home and native land.
Screw the disenfranchised and under-represented if they can't write worth a shit. Propping up mediocre writers simply because they meet some kind of cultural checklist and calling that our "national literature" sickens me.
Mordecai Richler wipes his ass with 99.99% of the writers in this country and yet, A.J.'s right, his books are under-represented on curricula because he never kowtowed to the cultural poobahs who hold sway here, in publishing and academia. He ridiculed granting agencies and cultural bureaucrats and is STILL being punished for it, years after his death. But political correctness has had its heyday...only in tiny, hidebound institutions does it still hold sway. But we'll root it out of there eventually too. And exterminate it...
Screw the disenfranchised and under-represented if they can't write worth a shit. Propping up mediocre writers simply because they meet some kind of cultural checklist and calling that our "national literature" sickens me.
Mordecai Richler wipes his ass with 99.99% of the writers in this country and yet, A.J.'s right, his books are under-represented on curricula because he never kowtowed to the cultural poobahs who hold sway here, in publishing and academia. He ridiculed granting agencies and cultural bureaucrats and is STILL being punished for it, years after his death. But political correctness has had its heyday...only in tiny, hidebound institutions does it still hold sway. But we'll root it out of there eventually too. And exterminate it...
67CliffBurns
Darn, I think I've just lost any chance I had of ever winning a Governor-General Award or Giller.
Oh, well. Life goes on.
Oh, well. Life goes on.
68ajsomerset
If the problem is that books specifically about race/gender (particularly when written by an approved minority) are getting all the attention of the literature depts while books on other subject matter are ignored, this seems a legit critique I guess, if it is really true and not greatly exaggerated.
Well, before we can say if it's really true, and not exaggerated, we have to define words like "ignored." A literal-minded person can debunk the claim that women writers in the US are critically ignored, despite the fact that the statement is generally true.
Suffice to say that the Globe & Mail published a story last year which claimed that Richler is no longer being taught in any Canadian university. And as I pointed out, that recently published anthology (I think it's the Penguin Anthology of Canadian Literature in English) is lacking white males.
As for conflating the subject of the book and the race/gender of its author, no-one is guiltier of this than academe. It is there that the idea of "appropriation of voice" was invented, after all. The author is dead, except where it is convenient to keep the author alive so that we can talk about the importance of the author's Identity.
Well, before we can say if it's really true, and not exaggerated, we have to define words like "ignored." A literal-minded person can debunk the claim that women writers in the US are critically ignored, despite the fact that the statement is generally true.
Suffice to say that the Globe & Mail published a story last year which claimed that Richler is no longer being taught in any Canadian university. And as I pointed out, that recently published anthology (I think it's the Penguin Anthology of Canadian Literature in English) is lacking white males.
As for conflating the subject of the book and the race/gender of its author, no-one is guiltier of this than academe. It is there that the idea of "appropriation of voice" was invented, after all. The author is dead, except where it is convenient to keep the author alive so that we can talk about the importance of the author's Identity.
69anna_in_pdx
I find that this discussion is getting difficult for me because I don't belong to academe, and have no idea what they get up to inside their ivory towers. If it goes on I will just feel like I'm playing devil's advocate.
I do recognize a get off my lawn screed when I see one, whether I may agree with parts of it or not. I still think the article in the Wall St. Jrnl was practically content free. It just came off as a nasty rant.
This has been a very interesting discussion though that has caused me to (1) have a discussion on the topic with my SO who sort of agrees with you two that multiculturalism is too much of a sacred cow, though he thinks this is more of a marketing thing than necessarily an academic thing, and also, as a Marxist, his opinion would not count :) and (2) to put Richler on my TBR because according to both of you he must be one heck of a terrific author. I had never even heard of him before, but that's insular Americans for you.
I do recognize a get off my lawn screed when I see one, whether I may agree with parts of it or not. I still think the article in the Wall St. Jrnl was practically content free. It just came off as a nasty rant.
This has been a very interesting discussion though that has caused me to (1) have a discussion on the topic with my SO who sort of agrees with you two that multiculturalism is too much of a sacred cow, though he thinks this is more of a marketing thing than necessarily an academic thing, and also, as a Marxist, his opinion would not count :) and (2) to put Richler on my TBR because according to both of you he must be one heck of a terrific author. I had never even heard of him before, but that's insular Americans for you.
70CliffBurns
Favorite Richler novels:
COCKSURE
THE APPRENTICESHIP OF DUDDY KRAVITZ (considered his masterpiece but I prefer COCKSURE because of its pure nastiness)
JOSHUA THEN AND NOW
SOLOMON GURSKY WAS HERE
BARNEY'S VERSION
BARNEY'S VERSION was his last book and one of his very, very best. Parts of it had me hooting in laughter, other sections made me tearful.
The notion that people like him and Timothy Findley (NOT WANTED ON THE VOYAGE) weren't considered good enough to make it into the anthology A.J. mentioned shows a disconnect between the moron editors and the task they were given (an anthology of the best of the best Canuck writing). I put literary academics at the same pig trough as arts administrators. Purportedly professional and impartial but, in reality, oriented toward their own warped, fucked up vision of the world.
You probably shouldn't start with COCKSURE--it's one of his two or three best books but I know some find its satire TOO scathing.
COCKSURE
THE APPRENTICESHIP OF DUDDY KRAVITZ (considered his masterpiece but I prefer COCKSURE because of its pure nastiness)
JOSHUA THEN AND NOW
SOLOMON GURSKY WAS HERE
BARNEY'S VERSION
BARNEY'S VERSION was his last book and one of his very, very best. Parts of it had me hooting in laughter, other sections made me tearful.
The notion that people like him and Timothy Findley (NOT WANTED ON THE VOYAGE) weren't considered good enough to make it into the anthology A.J. mentioned shows a disconnect between the moron editors and the task they were given (an anthology of the best of the best Canuck writing). I put literary academics at the same pig trough as arts administrators. Purportedly professional and impartial but, in reality, oriented toward their own warped, fucked up vision of the world.
You probably shouldn't start with COCKSURE--it's one of his two or three best books but I know some find its satire TOO scathing.
71ajsomerset
My father was a prof and my sister is a prof, and I have heard this argument over the dinner table. ;)
The WSJ piece is a get-off-my-lawn screed; the good parts of the argument are undermined by its political content. In a sense, it is just as political as the schools of criticism it complains about, so the piece is at risk of collapsing into "they present views I don't like, and that's wrong." Note the bit about America's imperial enterprise; the fact is, whatever the ivory tower may do, our literary world is suspicious of the myths that enabled American empire. It doesn't matter how you slice it, that's contemporary letters.
But at its core, this is a complaint about the influence of literary theory on the English dept. It's becoming a more prominent complaint these days; I expect that in 20 years, the literary theorists will be writing get-off-my-lawn screeds in the WSJ, complaining that a concern for aesthetics is destroying the study of literature.
The WSJ piece is a get-off-my-lawn screed; the good parts of the argument are undermined by its political content. In a sense, it is just as political as the schools of criticism it complains about, so the piece is at risk of collapsing into "they present views I don't like, and that's wrong." Note the bit about America's imperial enterprise; the fact is, whatever the ivory tower may do, our literary world is suspicious of the myths that enabled American empire. It doesn't matter how you slice it, that's contemporary letters.
But at its core, this is a complaint about the influence of literary theory on the English dept. It's becoming a more prominent complaint these days; I expect that in 20 years, the literary theorists will be writing get-off-my-lawn screeds in the WSJ, complaining that a concern for aesthetics is destroying the study of literature.
72CliffBurns
Ideologies of the world, using cows to illustrate and explain them:
http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/2zAk7h/deshoda.com/words/famous-world-ideologies-a...
Sherron found me this one--my first giggle of the day.
http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/2zAk7h/deshoda.com/words/famous-world-ideologies-a...
Sherron found me this one--my first giggle of the day.
73kswolff
They need Tea Party Conservatism: "You have two cows. The government takes one in order to convert it to Evangelical Protestant Christianity. The Church takes the other. Marcus Bachmann propositions you to have gay sex with him. Why do you hate America, er, cows?"
74CliffBurns
The latest news has $20 billion gone missing in the Iraq war and "reconstruction".
Which begs the question: has anybody checked Dick Cheney's bank account?
Which begs the question: has anybody checked Dick Cheney's bank account?
75ajsomerset
What writer said this? No resorting to Google. Guess.
I can’t write thrillers because I can’t stand mechanical coincidences. Contrived coincidences. I’d be a much wealthier writer if I could learn, but I just can’t.
I have friends who do it beautifully, though. Grisham, King. I asked King about it once, How do you plot? Give me some tips. But he told me he has no interest in plot. He just has interest in writing. He has such fun he’s started writing on Sundays, too. He’s just a boy loose in a candy store.
I can’t write thrillers because I can’t stand mechanical coincidences. Contrived coincidences. I’d be a much wealthier writer if I could learn, but I just can’t.
I have friends who do it beautifully, though. Grisham, King. I asked King about it once, How do you plot? Give me some tips. But he told me he has no interest in plot. He just has interest in writing. He has such fun he’s started writing on Sundays, too. He’s just a boy loose in a candy store.
76CliffBurns
Hmmm...I was gonna say Peter Straub but I don't think he fits.
Friends with Grisham AND King--I'd say this guy/gal needs to hang around with a better quality of author...
(I eagerly await the answer.)
Friends with Grisham AND King--I'd say this guy/gal needs to hang around with a better quality of author...
(I eagerly await the answer.)
77ajsomerset
No other guesses?
Barry Hannah!
Barry Hannah!
78CliffBurns
Fine author. Never would have guessed him. You devil, A.J.
80kswolff
The best philosophers are usually always kind of right. It's the ideologues, dogmatics, and puritanical dingbats who demand you swallow the entire opus without questioning it. Same goes for Nietzsche He was an accomplished philosopher who dissected European ethics and the genesis of morality and religion. But women and democracy ... not so much.
81CliffBurns
With North Africa so much in the news of late, thought this group would like to see some pics from the most recent issue of THE ATLANTIC MONTHLY---a different war in the desert:
http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2011/09/world-war-ii-the-north-african-campai...
http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2011/09/world-war-ii-the-north-african-campai...
82CliffBurns
Neil Gaiman has to beg for funding?
http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/neil-gaiman-amanda-palmer-raise-80k-on-kick...
Hmmm....somehow I don't think so.
http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/neil-gaiman-amanda-palmer-raise-80k-on-kick...
Hmmm....somehow I don't think so.
84kswolff
The history of hollow earth theories:
http://hilobrow.com/2011/09/11/hollow-earth/
"Standish’s research is impressive, taking in everything from the British Enlightenment and American religious utopianism to such hollow-earth literature as Jacques Casanova’s five-volume 1788 novel “Icosameron” (about a society of nudist hermaphroditic dwarves)to Edgar Rice Burroughs’s Pellucidar novels, in one of which Tarzan descends into a “Symmes’s Hole” via zeppelin."
Casanova? Hermaphroditic dwarves? That's so going on my wishlist!
http://hilobrow.com/2011/09/11/hollow-earth/
"Standish’s research is impressive, taking in everything from the British Enlightenment and American religious utopianism to such hollow-earth literature as Jacques Casanova’s five-volume 1788 novel “Icosameron” (about a society of nudist hermaphroditic dwarves)to Edgar Rice Burroughs’s Pellucidar novels, in one of which Tarzan descends into a “Symmes’s Hole” via zeppelin."
Casanova? Hermaphroditic dwarves? That's so going on my wishlist!
86CliffBurns
Interesting.
I'm very careful when I read a book, the spine barely shows I've been reading it. My wife thinks I'm weird. Her books look like they've been manhandled by a powerful strangler. Nah, I'm just being mean.
I'm very careful when I read a book, the spine barely shows I've been reading it. My wife thinks I'm weird. Her books look like they've been manhandled by a powerful strangler. Nah, I'm just being mean.
88benjclark
CS Lewis on a young Ray Bradbury letter up for sale:
http://www.royalbooks.com/details.php?record=122570
http://www.royalbooks.com/details.php?record=122570
89CliffBurns
A fragment lodged in the throat of history that refuses to go away:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-14913456
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-14913456
90CliffBurns
And few more reasons why political correctness is the last bastion of the moron:
http://www.popehat.com/2011/09/16/he-said-jehova-he-said-jehova/
http://www.popehat.com/2011/09/16/he-said-jehova-he-said-jehova/
91CliffBurns
Heh heh. Book store employees have just become "honorary" snobs:
http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/borders-employees-vent-frustrations-in-ode-...
http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/borders-employees-vent-frustrations-in-ode-...
93kswolff
Got The Pleasure of the Text by Barthes. He talks about the interconnections between literature, language, and pleasure. Warms the cockles of my heart. The reason we're all here is because of the pleasure we get from reading.
94CliffBurns
...and to lose friends and alienate people.
96CliffBurns
"frivals"? (Friendly rivals)
97CliffBurns
Slavoj Zizek. This guy's been catching my eye a lot lately. Kind of a nutty professor...but I get the feeling he's crazy like a fox. His interview on Charlie Rose:
http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/11966
And a piece from THE LONDON REVIEW OF BOOKS:
http://www.lrb.co.uk/2011/08/19/slavoj-zizek/shoplifters-of-the-world-unite
I'm going to be seeking out a copy of his book, LIVING IN END TIMES.
http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/11966
And a piece from THE LONDON REVIEW OF BOOKS:
http://www.lrb.co.uk/2011/08/19/slavoj-zizek/shoplifters-of-the-world-unite
I'm going to be seeking out a copy of his book, LIVING IN END TIMES.
98CliffBurns
Weird. Russian film that's morphed into some kind of strange, epic, sociological experiment. Another find by that Gord fella. Read on and prepare to be amazed:
http://www.gq.com/entertainment/movies-and-tv/201111/movie-set-that-ate-itself-d...
http://www.gq.com/entertainment/movies-and-tv/201111/movie-set-that-ate-itself-d...
99nymith
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/8852794/The-English-Ghost.html
Peter Ackroyd on ghosts, anyone?
Peter Ackroyd on ghosts, anyone?
101CliffBurns
Good piece by Ackroyd.
102anna_in_pdx
100: Yes I saw that on my e-mail this a.m. I agree with you it is not cause for celebration. I wish for humanity that all future children be wanted and that their parents be able to raise them as best they can. It is hard to be one of the youth out of work in the Middle East and other poor areas of the world...
104kswolff
Jan Morris used to be a man, aka James Morris:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1023991/Sex-change-couple-Writer-Jan-M...
Never knew that. Glad to know NYRB didn't reveal that in their publication of Hav While a fascinating tidbit about the author, it would have been a distraction. But the gender reassignment surgery is talked about by Morris in her anthology of travel writing, The World
Just one of those things that makes you go, "Hmmmm."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1023991/Sex-change-couple-Writer-Jan-M...
Never knew that. Glad to know NYRB didn't reveal that in their publication of Hav While a fascinating tidbit about the author, it would have been a distraction. But the gender reassignment surgery is talked about by Morris in her anthology of travel writing, The World
Just one of those things that makes you go, "Hmmmm."
105CliffBurns
Lost in the shuffle: the GREAT Dick Smith receives an Honorary Oscar.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-15711859
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-15711859
106CliffBurns
Kim Kardasian and her family made $65 million last year, folks:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15750260
Western culture is a urinal covered with crude graffiti.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15750260
Western culture is a urinal covered with crude graffiti.
107CliffBurns
Has everyone seen this amazing footage?
http://www.openculture.com/2011/11/chance_encounter_with_nature.html
http://www.openculture.com/2011/11/chance_encounter_with_nature.html
108CliffBurns
Gord sent me this:
http://www.motherboard.tv/2011/11/9/motherboard-tv-the-thorium-dream
Is Thorium the answer to our energy woes?
What do YOU say, Robert Zubrin:
http://energyvictory.net/
http://www.motherboard.tv/2011/11/9/motherboard-tv-the-thorium-dream
Is Thorium the answer to our energy woes?
What do YOU say, Robert Zubrin:
http://energyvictory.net/
109CliffBurns
The VOYNICH MANUSCRIPT now available on-line:
http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/voynich-manuscript-now-online_b43043
We've chatted about this book before.
http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/voynich-manuscript-now-online_b43043
We've chatted about this book before.
110CliffBurns
Another fantastic piece by Neil MacDonald--this one relating to the scales of justice and yet one more example of the gaping divide between the rich and powerful and da poor people:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/11/29/f-rfa-macdonald.html
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/11/29/f-rfa-macdonald.html
111CliffBurns
Veteran reporter Brian Stewart on the crisis in Syria and possible implications:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/11/30/f-vp-stewart-syria.html
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/11/30/f-vp-stewart-syria.html
112kswolff
Classy:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45499321/ns/us_news/
And one wonders why people like Hitchens and Richard Dawkins are spiking in popularity?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45499321/ns/us_news/
And one wonders why people like Hitchens and Richard Dawkins are spiking in popularity?
113CliffBurns
Another terrific Neil MacDonald piece, on the hypocrisy of American political and religious leaders:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/12/05/f-rfa-madonald.html
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/12/05/f-rfa-madonald.html
114kswolff
113: Voters are stupid. The trickiest thing in America is telling the difference between the morally hypocritical shyster in the pulpit and one on the campaign trail. But we're resigned to our lot of flipping a coin over which necrotic, awful, uninventive, dynasty-sodden, cash-voracious party we desire to have occupy our government offices. But, hey ... "best system in the world" -- said the frog as it slowly boiled to death.
Then again, I haven't voted since 2006 and apart from missing out on those lovely "I Voted" stickers (Hey! It matches my middle class white liberal guilt! Excelsior!), I don't think I actually missed out on anything. Americans over-emphasize the ACT OF VOTING as opposed to WHO WE VOTE FOR, since we have the right to vote, unlike our many free market tyrannies we support financially and militarily.
I'd be amused to see what pro forma boilerplate twaddle spews forth as a rebuttal to this post.
Then again, I haven't voted since 2006 and apart from missing out on those lovely "I Voted" stickers (Hey! It matches my middle class white liberal guilt! Excelsior!), I don't think I actually missed out on anything. Americans over-emphasize the ACT OF VOTING as opposed to WHO WE VOTE FOR, since we have the right to vote, unlike our many free market tyrannies we support financially and militarily.
I'd be amused to see what pro forma boilerplate twaddle spews forth as a rebuttal to this post.
115anna_in_pdx
Income inequality in the US from the oECD report:
http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/40/23/49170253.pdf
http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/40/23/49170253.pdf
116Sandydog1
>107 CliffBurns:
It's been around for a while Cliff, but it is still unbelievably stunning. Thanks.
We have a similar phenom (Tree Swallows on the Connecticut River), which occurs in September.
It's been around for a while Cliff, but it is still unbelievably stunning. Thanks.
We have a similar phenom (Tree Swallows on the Connecticut River), which occurs in September.
117CliffBurns
The covert war in Iran:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/12/08/f-vp-stewart.html
I pass these little foreign policy pieces along because sometimes an outside perspective is helpful in discussions/debates. Often rhetoric and partisanship conceal the relevant information that folks need to know.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/12/08/f-vp-stewart.html
I pass these little foreign policy pieces along because sometimes an outside perspective is helpful in discussions/debates. Often rhetoric and partisanship conceal the relevant information that folks need to know.
118kswolff
117: Meh, the US has to make money somehow, since we're just barely surviving with our two main industries -- ironic t-shirts and iPod apps.
119kswolff
A two-headed boy born in Brazil:
http://www.torontosun.com/2011/12/21/two-headed-baby-boy-born-in-brazil
http://www.torontosun.com/2011/12/21/two-headed-baby-boy-born-in-brazil
120CliffBurns
Vlad Putin and "soft authoritarianism" in Russia:
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v34/n01/stephen-holmes/fragments-of-a-defunct-state
(From Gord)
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v34/n01/stephen-holmes/fragments-of-a-defunct-state
(From Gord)
121CliffBurns
Capitalism is a dirty word--yet another solid piece by Neil MacDonald:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/12/29/f-rfa-macdonald-capitalism.html
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/12/29/f-rfa-macdonald-capitalism.html
122littlegeek
#121 About freaking time, however, I'm sure the spin doctors of the right will find a way. They are very skilled.
123anna_in_pdx
Yes, Luntz has already told everyone to call it "economic freedom"... that should do the trick.
Seriously, why are people so dumb about framing/propagandizing? We find it easy to judge other people's propaganda but not our own.
Seriously, why are people so dumb about framing/propagandizing? We find it easy to judge other people's propaganda but not our own.
124littlegeek
#123 I thought the article very balanced, tho, showing how each side's propaganda spurs on the other's.
125anna_in_pdx
Human caused atrocities in history, by the NYT:
http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2011/11/06/opinion/06atrocities_timeline.html?...
Wow, Genghis Khan may have reduced the world population by more than 11% all by himself! Well, him and his hordes, I guess. (I remain mystified as to why people find him fascinating.)
http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2011/11/06/opinion/06atrocities_timeline.html?...
Wow, Genghis Khan may have reduced the world population by more than 11% all by himself! Well, him and his hordes, I guess. (I remain mystified as to why people find him fascinating.)
126CliffBurns
Not a pretty picture of our species, is it?
127kswolff
126: I'm ready to accept rule by Cylon overlords at this point. Our species is in dire need of a major course correction. Like the Joker said, all we need is a little push and we'll eat each other.
Happy New Year!
Happy New Year!
128CliffBurns
Another excellent article by CBC's Neil MacDonald:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/01/06/f-rfa-macdonald-democracy.html
The morass of American politics.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/01/06/f-rfa-macdonald-democracy.html
The morass of American politics.
129nymith
A piece on cultural stasis and refashioning old ideas:
http://www.vanityfair.com/style/2012/01/prisoners-of-style-201201.print
http://www.vanityfair.com/style/2012/01/prisoners-of-style-201201.print
131anna_in_pdx
I liked the comment "Thank you science!" But I also thought the idea of helping women that have been subjected to FGM is a great one. Good on these French doctors.
132CliffBurns
Farewell to the Motor City:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/19/opinion/dismantling-detroit.html?_r=2&hpw
(Another Gord gem)
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/19/opinion/dismantling-detroit.html?_r=2&hpw
(Another Gord gem)
135CliffBurns
The end of the "cyber-flaneur":
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/05/opinion/sunday/the-death-of-the-cyberflaneur.h...
(From Gord)
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/05/opinion/sunday/the-death-of-the-cyberflaneur.h...
(From Gord)
136CliffBurns
Joyce's works now in public domain:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-16377358
I have just started work on a sequel to ULYSSES...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-16377358
I have just started work on a sequel to ULYSSES...
137justifiedsinner
To be called "Troy the Guiness, Leopold".?
138CliffBurns
Now you're getting into the spirit!
ULYSSES (DAY II)
DOWN AND DECADENT IN DUBLIN
FINDING MOLLY
STEPHEN DEDALUS, A NEW BEGINNING
BLOOM IN LUST
etc.
ULYSSES (DAY II)
DOWN AND DECADENT IN DUBLIN
FINDING MOLLY
STEPHEN DEDALUS, A NEW BEGINNING
BLOOM IN LUST
etc.
139kswolff
UK police arrest at Rupert Murdoch's flagship rag, the Sun:
http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/11/10381666-british-police-arrest-5...
A fair and balanced perp walk.
http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/11/10381666-british-police-arrest-5...
A fair and balanced perp walk.
140CliffBurns
There's a spit and an especially hot, bright flame in Hades waiting for Rupert some day.
Fucker.
Fucker.
143CliffBurns
America's death row. Another terrific Neil MacDonald article:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/02/10/f-rfa-macdonald-executions.html
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/02/10/f-rfa-macdonald-executions.html
144CliffBurns
Now if this doesn't make you go "Hmmmm", nothing will:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-17032567
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-17032567
145CliffBurns
Any fans of the poet Mary Oliver in this group?
http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/mary-oliver-tribute-blog_b47153
http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/mary-oliver-tribute-blog_b47153
146anna_in_pdx
She's one of my mother's favorites. I like her poems too. Thanks!
148nymith
Can literary criticism be grafted onto a children's picture book?
"The Very Hungry Caterpillar is a phantasmagoric, bodyshock horror story that focuses on the tenets of extreme gluttony and one creature’s psycho-compulsive desire to consume the world around him. Taking cues from Edgar Allan Poe and H.P. Lovecraft, The Very Hungry Caterpillar’s conception of horror isn’t a hyperbolic focus on blood and viscera, nor is it concerned with gothic notions of ghosts or death: rather, the anathema is an internalised grotesque; it is the body itself that is to be feared, treacherous from the inside and predisposed to extreme bloating, mutation and the eventual emergence of the literal monster from within."
Etc.
http://tomcatintheredroom.com/2012/02/24/the-very-hungry-caterpillar-eric-carle/
"The Very Hungry Caterpillar is a phantasmagoric, bodyshock horror story that focuses on the tenets of extreme gluttony and one creature’s psycho-compulsive desire to consume the world around him. Taking cues from Edgar Allan Poe and H.P. Lovecraft, The Very Hungry Caterpillar’s conception of horror isn’t a hyperbolic focus on blood and viscera, nor is it concerned with gothic notions of ghosts or death: rather, the anathema is an internalised grotesque; it is the body itself that is to be feared, treacherous from the inside and predisposed to extreme bloating, mutation and the eventual emergence of the literal monster from within."
Etc.
http://tomcatintheredroom.com/2012/02/24/the-very-hungry-caterpillar-eric-carle/
149anna_in_pdx
Ha ha, clever. What in the hell that critic would make out of, say, Grimm's fairy tales, one can not even imagine.
150kswolff
149: Or Shock-headed Peter
151CliffBurns
The book ark. Just in case...
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/04/technology/internet-archives-repository-collec...
(Courtesy Gord)
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/04/technology/internet-archives-repository-collec...
(Courtesy Gord)
153anna_in_pdx
Wonderful. I love XKCD.
154CliffBurns
Sadly, this is not a joke:
http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/jeff-bridges-bernie-glassman-land-book-deal...
http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/jeff-bridges-bernie-glassman-land-book-deal...
155CliffBurns
NASA animates the formation of the moon. Beautiful!
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2012/03/16/video-nasa-moon.html
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2012/03/16/video-nasa-moon.html
156kswolff
155: So when the hell are they going back? Or do we have to wait for Al-Qaeda to develop a space program for us to start to care?
158kswolff
157: Not unless there's oil and potential ballot-stuffing measures for Vladimir Putin
I'd hasten to say the Chinese, but that would involve them actually creating new technology, not churning out poorly constructed knock-offs and pirates copies.
I'd hasten to say the Chinese, but that would involve them actually creating new technology, not churning out poorly constructed knock-offs and pirates copies.
159beardo
Elect Newt. He's all for a return to the moon - and its eventual inclusion in the Union.
Youtube video
Youtube video
160kswolff
159: Well, if the gay-hating Teahadists all want their own domain, let em take the Moon. See how that theocracy will do without, ya know, science and junk. Wait a tick, didn't the English try to do that with the Puritans? But hey, if the Rightie-tightie-whiteys want to do John Carter-meets-John Calvin, what could possibly go wrong? In the words of CIA genius guy George Tenet, "It's a slam dunk!"
161CliffBurns
Tim Parks asks "Why finish books?":
http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2012/mar/13/why-finish-books/
Another Gord find.
http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2012/mar/13/why-finish-books/
Another Gord find.
162nymith
161: I think he's got it wrong. Not that it isn't an interesting idea, and I once did something similar, in picking up and reading the first chapter of 1984. Though I found it amazingly powerful, I put it back on the shelf knowing it was not yet the right TIME for me to read it. I have always intended to return to it.
I side with E. M. Forster on this issue. On the one hand he agrees: "Nearly all novels are feeble at the end. This is because the plot requires to be wound up. Why is this necessary? Why is there not a convention which allows a novelist to stop as soon as he feels muddled or bored? Alas, he has to round things off, and usually the characters go dead while he is at work, and our final impression of them is through deadness."
On the other hand: "Books have to be read (worse luck, for it takes a long time); it is the only way of discovering what they contain. A few savage tribes eat them, but reading is the only method of assimilation revealed to the west. The reader must sit down alone and struggle with the writer...."
If you bail out on a book, you haven't read the book. You've read chapters, you've excerpted, you've dabbled, perhaps you've been artistic or zen about it, but you have not read the book.
Each to his own.
I side with E. M. Forster on this issue. On the one hand he agrees: "Nearly all novels are feeble at the end. This is because the plot requires to be wound up. Why is this necessary? Why is there not a convention which allows a novelist to stop as soon as he feels muddled or bored? Alas, he has to round things off, and usually the characters go dead while he is at work, and our final impression of them is through deadness."
On the other hand: "Books have to be read (worse luck, for it takes a long time); it is the only way of discovering what they contain. A few savage tribes eat them, but reading is the only method of assimilation revealed to the west. The reader must sit down alone and struggle with the writer...."
If you bail out on a book, you haven't read the book. You've read chapters, you've excerpted, you've dabbled, perhaps you've been artistic or zen about it, but you have not read the book.
Each to his own.
163CliffBurns
Terrific response. Well stated.
164CliffBurns
No, really: CAN you trust your government and its rogue henchmen?
http://www.sfweekly.com/content/printVersion/3008166/
http://www.sfweekly.com/content/printVersion/3008166/
166CliffBurns
(Every author in the group hastily clicking on the link to make sure none of THEIR titles are listed...)
167kswolff
166: Well, those are Photoshopped images, except for "Atlas Sharted," which I think was Rand's original title for it. Then again, can "Git-r-Dune" by Larry the Cable Guy be any worse than the shameless Dune cash-ins excreted by Kevin J. Anderson?
168CliffBurns
http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/st-martin%E2%80%99s-press-mystery-marijuana...
One...two...three:
"Hmmmmmmmm...."
One...two...three:
"Hmmmmmmmm...."
169kswolff
168: Might make reading the galleys of Snooki's latest novel more palatable. Probably the best way to watch a Michael Bay movie too.
170CliffBurns
Reportedly the only decent buzz that's been at St. Martin's in over a decade...
171CliffBurns
Democracy in action:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17481973
In particular, I draw your attention to:
"But with the US holding the most votes at the World Bank, which has 187 members, the vote on the next president should be a formality....The World Bank and the International Monetary Fund were created at the conference at Bretton Woods in 1944 as a means to regulate trade between nations in the aftermath of the Great Depression and World War II. A US national traditionally heads the World Bank while a European runs the IMF - currently France's Christine Lagarde."
No outsiders need apply. The two most powerful financial institutions in the world, controlled and manipulated by a small cadre of individuals. Sounds like something out of a Dan Brown novel, don't it?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17481973
In particular, I draw your attention to:
"But with the US holding the most votes at the World Bank, which has 187 members, the vote on the next president should be a formality....The World Bank and the International Monetary Fund were created at the conference at Bretton Woods in 1944 as a means to regulate trade between nations in the aftermath of the Great Depression and World War II. A US national traditionally heads the World Bank while a European runs the IMF - currently France's Christine Lagarde."
No outsiders need apply. The two most powerful financial institutions in the world, controlled and manipulated by a small cadre of individuals. Sounds like something out of a Dan Brown novel, don't it?
172CliffBurns
Oh, this is GREAT. Another fookin' brilliant find from Gord. Films conceived and created to instill terror...but with the very best intentions. God, I love this stuff:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/mar/30/danger-world-scariest-films
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/mar/30/danger-world-scariest-films
173CliffBurns
Worst album covers of all time?
http://blog.tastebuds.fm/worst-album-covers-of-all-time/
My wife sent me this one...
http://blog.tastebuds.fm/worst-album-covers-of-all-time/
My wife sent me this one...
177CliffBurns
Great pic.
178kswolff
When it comes to men of the cloth, it's all about the bling:
http://now.msn.com/now/0406-russian-church-deception.aspx
http://now.msn.com/now/0406-russian-church-deception.aspx
179CliffBurns
No Pulitzer Prize for fiction this year:
http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/no-pulitzer-prize-for-fiction-award_b50199
http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/no-pulitzer-prize-for-fiction-award_b50199
180kswolff
179: Nicholas Sparks must be pissed.
182anna_in_pdx
Does this mean the jury didn't like any of the nominations? Interesting.
183kswolff
182: On occasion, the Jury will award the Prize, but the Board (meaning: Columbia U's board) will be against for some reason. This was the case with Gravity's Rainbow and Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf, where the Board's gossamer-thin skin and neo-Victorian mores got in the way of rewarding groundbreaking literature.
Besides, the nominees were the usual batch of Stuff White People Like authors: Denis Johnson and David Foster Wallace (Granted, both are great authors, but nominating DFW is equivalent to nominating Tom Hanks for a rom-com. There are aspiring authors wallowing in obscurity who should be rewarded. The same for regional authors with loyal followings. And dangerous, offensive authors who, ya know, write good.)
Is there a literature award equivalent to the Independent Spirit Award for movies? That I'd like to see.
Besides, the nominees were the usual batch of Stuff White People Like authors: Denis Johnson and David Foster Wallace (Granted, both are great authors, but nominating DFW is equivalent to nominating Tom Hanks for a rom-com. There are aspiring authors wallowing in obscurity who should be rewarded. The same for regional authors with loyal followings. And dangerous, offensive authors who, ya know, write good.)
Is there a literature award equivalent to the Independent Spirit Award for movies? That I'd like to see.
184CliffBurns
Weird, huh? Out of all the fiction titles published in 2011, the judges couldn't settle on ONE good one? Seems pretty dodgy to me.
185kswolff
Less dodgy than just plain pathetic. Also, the shortlist came across as respectable but stale choices. Unless there is a shake-up in the works, the Pulitzer may lose steam, devolving into entropy and irrelevance, in the shortsighted notion of respectability, propriety, and kowtowing to the middle class. A kind of cautious aesthetic puritanism.
Which bring up a valid point: It's time for the Jury and the Board to look at offerings from smaller, independent presses rather than the random tentacles of Random House, etc. churning out naked attempts at prestige-bait.
I think it's less a "conspiracy" in the classic sense than "everybody knows everybody" in the little village of Manhattan (publishers, reviewers, authors, academics, etc.). Akin to the incestuous maelstrom we have in Washington, DC, albeit with probably less weapons grade moral hypocrisy and outright bribery.
Which bring up a valid point: It's time for the Jury and the Board to look at offerings from smaller, independent presses rather than the random tentacles of Random House, etc. churning out naked attempts at prestige-bait.
I think it's less a "conspiracy" in the classic sense than "everybody knows everybody" in the little village of Manhattan (publishers, reviewers, authors, academics, etc.). Akin to the incestuous maelstrom we have in Washington, DC, albeit with probably less weapons grade moral hypocrisy and outright bribery.
186ajsomerset
It's time for the Jury and the Board to look at offerings from smaller, independent presses....
Uh, 2010's Pulitzer for fiction went to?
http://www.blpbooks.org/
Uh, 2010's Pulitzer for fiction went to?
http://www.blpbooks.org/
187nymith
It's a bit odd to see the Pulitzer committee falling down after so much time - their last gap was 1977. It seems like a case of epic procrastination to me. Just pick one already! Nobody cares! Get one out there with the stamp on it and come back next year. Is that so hard? Apparently this year it was. Or maybe since it's 2012 the board has decided to throw in the towel.
I can't offer much by way of further comment, being extremely ignorant of the modern literary scene. I'm a bit disappointed about it really, since this was the first year of my life when I might actually have cared who won the Pulitzer.
I can't offer much by way of further comment, being extremely ignorant of the modern literary scene. I'm a bit disappointed about it really, since this was the first year of my life when I might actually have cared who won the Pulitzer.
190CliffBurns
Excellent article on the Occupy movement transforming contemporary art:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17872666
Check out some of the links too, they're quite instructive.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17872666
Check out some of the links too, they're quite instructive.
192CliffBurns
New clue to an old mystery:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/05/04/lost-colony-virginia.html
Anyone read Harlan Ellison's tale "Croatoan"?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/05/04/lost-colony-virginia.html
Anyone read Harlan Ellison's tale "Croatoan"?
193ajsomerset
Anybody who watches "Supernatural" knows what really happened.
194CliffBurns
Venerable Toronto art movie theater closes. Check out the sign:
http://torontoist.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/20120507-CumberlandYYZ-0442-DRO...
(Another Gord discovery. Bless the man...)
http://torontoist.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/20120507-CumberlandYYZ-0442-DRO...
(Another Gord discovery. Bless the man...)
195CliffBurns
You wake up and you're in an empty city, with no memory of how you got there...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/18001930
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/18001930
196CliffBurns
Neil MacDonald hits the nail right on the head, yet again. On the American political campaign:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/05/08/f-rfa-macdonald-kickoff.html
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/05/08/f-rfa-macdonald-kickoff.html
197kswolff
This sounds like the plot of Pattern Recognition:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/11/world/british-wwii-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_c2
http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/11/world/british-wwii-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_c2
198CliffBurns
I hate hate HATE police provocateurs and the coverups that protect actions that often lead to tragedy and violence.
The folks in charge deny police would do anything to inflame a situation but dig these two lines from a report on the deportment of police officers during the last G20 meeting here in Canada. Do you see the, uh, y'know, contradiction here:
*****************************************************
The commission also saw no indication that RCMP undercover agents or event monitors acted "inappropriately" or as "agents provocateurs."
and, later:
The RCMP arrested five people during that incident, "two of whom turned out to be undercover Toronto police officers," said McPhail.
It's unclear what the Toronto officers did to get arrested because McPhail found there was no record-keeping for the reason of their arrest.
*************************************************************
The folks in charge deny police would do anything to inflame a situation but dig these two lines from a report on the deportment of police officers during the last G20 meeting here in Canada. Do you see the, uh, y'know, contradiction here:
*****************************************************
The commission also saw no indication that RCMP undercover agents or event monitors acted "inappropriately" or as "agents provocateurs."
and, later:
The RCMP arrested five people during that incident, "two of whom turned out to be undercover Toronto police officers," said McPhail.
It's unclear what the Toronto officers did to get arrested because McPhail found there was no record-keeping for the reason of their arrest.
*************************************************************
199anna_in_pdx
198: That is more of a WTF??? than a Hmmmmm.
200CliffBurns
It's such an unpardonably stupid finding from a supposedly impartial watchdog (appointed by the government, of course).
Hand out the paint and brushes, this one's another whitewash.
Hand out the paint and brushes, this one's another whitewash.
201ajsomerset
That's not all of it. The RCMP's official policy on "kettling" protesters is that they don't do it; peaceful protesters are supposed to be allowed to walk away at any time. But they participated in kettling protesters at the G20.
The problem is that the RCMP wasn't in charge. The Toronto police were in charge. The RCMP didn't use agents provocateurs, but the Toronto police did. And the kettling was against RCMP policy, but the RCMP were acting on Toronto police orders.
And the report is by the Commission for Public Complaints Against the RCMP, which has no authority over the Toronto police service ... since there is no national oversight body for all police forces, and no judicial inquiry into the G20 events, nothing will happen.
The problem is that the RCMP wasn't in charge. The Toronto police were in charge. The RCMP didn't use agents provocateurs, but the Toronto police did. And the kettling was against RCMP policy, but the RCMP were acting on Toronto police orders.
And the report is by the Commission for Public Complaints Against the RCMP, which has no authority over the Toronto police service ... since there is no national oversight body for all police forces, and no judicial inquiry into the G20 events, nothing will happen.
202kswolff
198: With a name like McPhail, how could an undercover op possibly end badly? Probably the "Undercover Cop" t-shirt he was wearing. Too bad Johnny McHigh-Success-Rate failed his drug test.
203ajsomerset
Further reports, from the Globe & Mail:
(A report by the Office of the Independent Police Review Director) slams police for 'kettling' scores of people — many passersby — at a downtown intersection for several hours in a severe thunderstorm, calling it 'unreasonable, unnecessary and unlawful.'
Even officers in place thought the situation untenable, with one describing the incident commander as 'maniacal,' the report says.
'Where are they going to give them a chance to disperse?' one officer asked.
'They aren’t, that’s the problem,' another replied.
'Well, that’s stupid.'
Look, when the police on the scene say the policing is getting stupid, the policing is probably getting stupid. And when the incident commander turns into Col. Kurtz....
(A report by the Office of the Independent Police Review Director) slams police for 'kettling' scores of people — many passersby — at a downtown intersection for several hours in a severe thunderstorm, calling it 'unreasonable, unnecessary and unlawful.'
Even officers in place thought the situation untenable, with one describing the incident commander as 'maniacal,' the report says.
'Where are they going to give them a chance to disperse?' one officer asked.
'They aren’t, that’s the problem,' another replied.
'Well, that’s stupid.'
Look, when the police on the scene say the policing is getting stupid, the policing is probably getting stupid. And when the incident commander turns into Col. Kurtz....
204CliffBurns
Yup, yup and yup.
My oldest son has taken it into his head that he wants to be an RCMP officer. It's hard because his dear old dad ain't the biggest fan of cops and the reputation of our national police service has taken a terrific pounding in the past decade.
Civilian control and oversight over every aspect of policing, codes of conduct with teeth, putting bad cops in jail (not segregated from other prisoners), THAT'S the way you bring the pigs to heel.
My oldest son has taken it into his head that he wants to be an RCMP officer. It's hard because his dear old dad ain't the biggest fan of cops and the reputation of our national police service has taken a terrific pounding in the past decade.
Civilian control and oversight over every aspect of policing, codes of conduct with teeth, putting bad cops in jail (not segregated from other prisoners), THAT'S the way you bring the pigs to heel.
206ajsomerset
205: Indeed. That's why they fired him and he took the only job he could get, with the Toronto Police Service.
207kswolff
206: "I beheaded a who lot of VC double agents and all I got was this lousy universal health care." I imagine he'd be wearing that t-shirt. Given his girth, the words might even be seen all at once.
208ajsomerset
... and according to today's Globe & Mail, charges have been recommended against Col. Kurtz, a.k.a. Mark Fenton.
He stands to receive an awful wrist-slapping.
He stands to receive an awful wrist-slapping.
209CliffBurns
Yeah, yeah, we've all seen these in-house disciplinary hearings, cops assessing cops and no details revealed.
I reiterate, until we start firing bad cops, putting the worst of them in jail, nothing will be solved.
I reiterate, until we start firing bad cops, putting the worst of them in jail, nothing will be solved.
211ajsomerset
209: Just you wait until you've been winked at and told never to do it again. You'll find it's no picnic.
212CliffBurns
It's the fucking pig that broke the guy's arm with a truncheon for taking a picture of what was going on--HE'S the sonofabitch I want to see slow-roasted over a fire, smell the bacon sizzling...
213kswolff
212: What's the Canadian version of the 1st Amendment? Might alleviate the tendency of your fascist Mounties from getting all medieval on your ass.
214CliffBurns
We call it the CHARTER OF RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS and I often wonder how many cops are actually conversant with that relatively short and succinct document.
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/charter/page-1.html
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/charter/page-1.html
215kswolff
214: I actually found a sociology book on policing (circa 1960s - 1970s) called City Police by Jonathan Rubinstein. Picked it up mainly because I'd been watching The Wire -- and my fiancee's grandfather was a small-town cop -- and I'd like to get beyond the Good Cop/Bad Cop caricature we see in pop culture. Find out "the real deal" with what it takes to be a city cop. There's got to be more to the story beyond "Manly Heroes of the Thin Blue Line protecting us from anarchy and chaos" vs. "Fascist pigs trampling on citizen's rights and running the neighborhood like an occupying army." I call bullshit on both depictions. At the root of it, being a copy is still just another job with a paycheck at the end of the week. Some treat it with the respect and honor it entails, with all its frustrations and petty idiocies, making it not too dissimilar from every other job these days, while others treat it like James Patterson, simply a reason to cash in on ill-gotten gains.
216CliffBurns
It's just that the possible damage bad cops can do is so much higher than almost any other line of work. A bad cop is rot and corruption right at the very core of our civilization and when we can no longer rely on those individuals entrusted with upholding laws and rights, our society as a whole suffers.
217CliffBurns
Neil MacDonald on what to do about Syria:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/05/30/f-rfa-macdonald-houla.html
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/05/30/f-rfa-macdonald-houla.html
218kswolff
217: Pushing the Assad family into the nearest turbine engine would be a good start. Or leave them in a ditch after dispatching them Qaddafi-style. I'm all about options.
219CliffBurns
Here's one for Karl--a piece comparing Robert Anton Wilson's THE ILLUMINATUS and Ayn Rand's ATLAS SHRUGGED:
http://jmrhiggs.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/illuminatus-vs-atlas-shrugged.html
Some funny bits here, for example: "Both novels are ridiculously long. Both were largely ignored by the literary and educational establishments, due to their unmistakable whiff of madness..."
Oh, yes.
(Courtesy Gord)
http://jmrhiggs.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/illuminatus-vs-atlas-shrugged.html
Some funny bits here, for example: "Both novels are ridiculously long. Both were largely ignored by the literary and educational establishments, due to their unmistakable whiff of madness..."
Oh, yes.
(Courtesy Gord)
221kswolff
219: Except the Illuminatus Trilogy was written better and Robert Anton Wilson didn't admire child-killers. The same comparison can be made between Atlas Shrugged and The Bible, especially the whiff of madness. Seriously, have you read Ezekiel and Saint Paul? Both were frothing lunatics.
222CliffBurns
What happened to flying cars and other ruminations. An article from THE BAFFLER:
http://www.thebaffler.com/past/of_flying_cars/print
(Courtesy Gord)
http://www.thebaffler.com/past/of_flying_cars/print
(Courtesy Gord)
223CliffBurns
Hey, America, you're too fucking fat:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/06/05/f-rfa-macdonald-american-obesity.h...
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/06/05/f-rfa-macdonald-american-obesity.h...
225nymith
A couple of pieces on the idiosyncrasies of translation.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/6d77169a-9f83-11e1-8b84-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1xubcRKS...
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/6d77169a-9f83-11e1-8b84-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1xubcRKS...
226kswolff
So that's what the Air Force has been doing:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47842589/
Dig that space-plane action, man!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47842589/
Dig that space-plane action, man!
227CliffBurns
Niall Ferguson on the west's economic woes. Living on credit and passing the bill to our grand-kids. Welcome to the consumer culture:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-18456131
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-18456131
228anna_in_pdx
Apparently, this is the position of the Texas GOP (Republican Party), long a harbinger for the eventual platforms of the overall US GOP: We oppose the teaching of critical thinking skills because they challenge "children's set beliefs," but we also think that we should teach kids skepticism of things like "global warming" and "evolution" because they are only theories:
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/06/26/506357/the-5-craziest-policies-in-te...
Yikes.
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/06/26/506357/the-5-craziest-policies-in-te...
Yikes.
229CliffBurns
From the article:
The GOP also opposes the teaching of “critical thinking skills” because they “focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.”
Yikes, indeed...
The GOP also opposes the teaching of “critical thinking skills” because they “focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.”
Yikes, indeed...
230kswolff
229: All the better when our beloved heterosexual leaders of evangelical persuasion poke us into cattle cars and lead us to the ovens. God forbid we ever question that motley lot of closet cases, child rapists, Catholic-Fascist goons, and Thomas Kinkade aficionados.
231emaestra
Yeah... I teach in Texas. It really is as unreal as you think it is. Let's face it, it isn't about teaching them to think but about teaching them to be good employees someday.
232kswolff
231: I thought the technical term was wage-slave?
234CliffBurns
The best use for a WalMart yet:
http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/wal-mart-converted-into-a-library_b53934
http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/wal-mart-converted-into-a-library_b53934
235CliffBurns
I think it's just about time to roll out the fucking guillotines again, don't you?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18944097
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18944097
238CliffBurns
"Turf painting"?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/07/27/us-drought-painted-lawns.html
Weird, weird, weird.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/07/27/us-drought-painted-lawns.html
Weird, weird, weird.
239kswolff
In news of the utterly unsurprising sort:
http://www.advocate.com/society/coming-out/2012/07/27/prominent-antigay-evangeli...
Also, in a follow article, grass is green and water is wet.
http://www.advocate.com/society/coming-out/2012/07/27/prominent-antigay-evangeli...
Also, in a follow article, grass is green and water is wet.
240CliffBurns
More literary necrophilia...by someone who should know better:
http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/john-banville-to-revive-classic-raymond-cha...
http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/john-banville-to-revive-classic-raymond-cha...
241jldarden
Agreed. I hate this practice of giving original characters to other writers. Recently happened to Robert B. Parker's Spenser and Jesse Stone.
Not a huge fan of pastiches either.
Not a huge fan of pastiches either.
242nymith
I thought a pseudonym was to hide the identity of an author. What's the point of one otherwise?
243ctbaron
I'm not a fan of using other people's characters, too, but at least they're in the hands of an author who very probably understands what's at stake if he should fail to service the characters well. And he's dealing with characters which Faulkner worked with, too, in a different way at least, if you count his screenplay adaptation of The Big Sleep.
As for the pseudonym- does anyone know if there are stylistic differences between Banville's "name-brand" works and his "off-brand" works? If it's close to The Book of Evidence then I'll give it a shot, but if it's like The Sea, then I'll take a pass.
As for the pseudonym- does anyone know if there are stylistic differences between Banville's "name-brand" works and his "off-brand" works? If it's close to The Book of Evidence then I'll give it a shot, but if it's like The Sea, then I'll take a pass.
244kswolff
240: It will only be a matter of time before we see "The Pale King and Ghosts," since the publishing machine is only too eager to dig up the dead and check their pockets for loose change.
246EllenLEkstrom
She was a parishioner at the church where I served for nine years as deacon, and she and her husband Ray attended the early service - always loved it when I came up on the rota for a preaching spot because I would get to see them.
247EllenLEkstrom
Whoops - I know Mary Ann Oliver - a different Mary Oliver. Mea Culpa. BUT, my friend Mary Ann is also a poet.
248CliffBurns
Fascinating article by Mark Fisher:
http://www.gonzocircus.com/xtrpgs/incubate-special-exclusive-essay-time-wars-by-...
http://www.gonzocircus.com/xtrpgs/incubate-special-exclusive-essay-time-wars-by-...
249CliffBurns
From the aforementioned article:
"Given all of this, it is clear that most political struggles at the moment amount to a war over time. The generalised debt crisis that hangs over all areas of capitalist life and culture – from banks to housing and student funding – is ultimately about time. Averting the alleged catastrophe (of the end of capitalism) will heighten the apocalyptic temporality of everyday life, as the anticipation of catastrophe gives way to a sense that we are already living through the catastrophe and it, like work, will never end. The increase of debt justifies the extending of working hours and working life, with retirement age being pushed ever further back. We are in a state of harrassed busyness from which – we are now promised – there will never be any relief.
The state of reactive panic in which most of us find ourselves is not an accidental side-effect of post-Fordist labour. It is highly functional for capital that our time is not only quantitatively short but qualitatively fragmented, bitty. We are required to live in the condition that Linda Stone has called “continous partial attention”, where our attention is habitually distributed across multiple communication platforms."
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"continuous partial attention"--yup, that describes my state of mind close enough to be eerie...
"Given all of this, it is clear that most political struggles at the moment amount to a war over time. The generalised debt crisis that hangs over all areas of capitalist life and culture – from banks to housing and student funding – is ultimately about time. Averting the alleged catastrophe (of the end of capitalism) will heighten the apocalyptic temporality of everyday life, as the anticipation of catastrophe gives way to a sense that we are already living through the catastrophe and it, like work, will never end. The increase of debt justifies the extending of working hours and working life, with retirement age being pushed ever further back. We are in a state of harrassed busyness from which – we are now promised – there will never be any relief.
The state of reactive panic in which most of us find ourselves is not an accidental side-effect of post-Fordist labour. It is highly functional for capital that our time is not only quantitatively short but qualitatively fragmented, bitty. We are required to live in the condition that Linda Stone has called “continous partial attention”, where our attention is habitually distributed across multiple communication platforms."
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"continuous partial attention"--yup, that describes my state of mind close enough to be eerie...
250guido47
But Cliff,
Is your attention "habitually distributed across multiple communication platforms."?
The article was interesting but portentous.
Is your attention "habitually distributed across multiple communication platforms."?
The article was interesting but portentous.
251CliffBurns
"Is your attention "habitually distributed across multiple communication platforms."?
My computer is the center of my world--I can write on it, create music, edit movies. In that sense it is a multiple communication platform all on its own.
On the other hand, I don't have a cell phone, laptop, tablet or any silly gadget.
My computer is the center of my world--I can write on it, create music, edit movies. In that sense it is a multiple communication platform all on its own.
On the other hand, I don't have a cell phone, laptop, tablet or any silly gadget.
252CliffBurns
Sorry...someone forwarded me this damn thing and I haven't been able to stop laughing for the past fifteen minutes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cTsvmkJ2rA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cTsvmkJ2rA
253JimThomson
We Snobs (I do not qualify as a true Snob myself, so I claim the status of Would-Be Snob) pride ourselves as having more insight, and more refinement, than most. So, in order to stay ahead of the curve, read 'SCARED SH*TLESS' (2012) so that we can do our duty and keep the Common Weal appraised of what to watch out for in our brave new world.
254Lcanon
Philip Roth's "open letter" about Wikipedia:
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/books/2012/09/an-open-letter-to-wikipedia....
I feel kind of bad for laughing. Like much of Roth's work, it's kind of magnificent in its insanity.
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/books/2012/09/an-open-letter-to-wikipedia....
I feel kind of bad for laughing. Like much of Roth's work, it's kind of magnificent in its insanity.
255anna_in_pdx
Too bad the "death of the author" guys (like Barthes and Foucault) are actually already dead, because it would be so amusing if Wiki started saying all kinds of weird things about their work and they were not allowed to refute it because they are "only one source". THAT would be fun to watch.
256ajsomerset
Wikipedia once again proves to be horseshit.
257Lcanon
I have a feeling that is probably what's bothering Roth so much, the idea that anyone out there can post stuff about him. The Broyard story has been literary gossip for years but this is the first I've heard of him objecting to it. Part of what cracks me up is that he goes to such great lengths to prove he never really knew Broyard when he wouldn't have had to know him to use his story.
258anna_in_pdx
Yeah, he should have had his editor help him cut that down. It sounds like protesting an awful lot too much, just on the sheer length.
259augustusgump
I think that anyone who had not read any Roth books would be disinclined to start after reading this. It could have been said in one medium length paragraph.
260kswolff
259: But I did admire Roth's trilogy about the hivemind and chiseled space-hero.*
*Hasn't read any books by Philip Roth.
*Hasn't read any books by Philip Roth.
262CliffBurns
Another good article by Neil MacDonald on why America shouldn't gut its freedom of speech provisions to cater to the mob mentality:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/09/16/islam-video-free-speech-neil-macdo...
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/09/16/islam-video-free-speech-neil-macdo...
263CliffBurns
From a note by my pal, Gord, a man who's run some of the finest bookstores in this country, including the legendary "This Ain't The Rosedale Library" in Toronto:
"We used to push William Goyen on our customers, ARCADIO was for sale for $2.99 for the longest time. It's hard to get people to read a writer's writer."
Sad, innit?
"We used to push William Goyen on our customers, ARCADIO was for sale for $2.99 for the longest time. It's hard to get people to read a writer's writer."
Sad, innit?
264CliffBurns
Bless you, Bill Nye:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2012/09/24/bill-nye-evolution-creationis...
God, I despise creationists (heh heh).
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2012/09/24/bill-nye-evolution-creationis...
God, I despise creationists (heh heh).
265RobertDay
As someone else said over here: "I have no objection to creationists opening their own schools, as long as they can build them in six days."
266CliffBurns
Terrific line.
267CliffBurns
Penguin Books suing authors to recoup hefty advances:
http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/robert-gottlieb-responds-to-penguin-lawsuit...
Don't think I've heard this tactic before...
http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/robert-gottlieb-responds-to-penguin-lawsuit...
Don't think I've heard this tactic before...
268guido47
I think I can use the word 'awesome' in its true meaning
269CliffBurns
And the James Webb telescope will look even further into space and time. Amazing, innit? Awesome, indeed.
270jaqdhawkins
Re: Penguin, they are recouping advances for books that were not delivered. That's fair play. The point of an advance is to guarantee delivery.
271CliffBurns
But recall Robert Gottlieb's comment: "Books are rejected for reasons other than editorially and publishers then want their money back. Publishers want to reject manuscripts for any reason after an author has put time and effort into writing them all the while paying their bills. Another reason to have strong representation. If Penguin did this to one of Trident’s authors we could cut them out of all our submissions.”
Was this suit brought against the authors because they didn't deliver their book or they didn't deliver the book Penguin was expecting (or hoping for)?
How about this scenario: I get an advance for a book, I write a terrific novel, a real ground-breaker...but Penguin wants the next FIFTY SHADES OF GRAY. So they reject my book and then sue for the advance back (which they fronted in good faith). Nothing wrong with my book, it's just not lousy enough to appeal to the moron demographic Penguin is catering to.
Just a thought.
Was this suit brought against the authors because they didn't deliver their book or they didn't deliver the book Penguin was expecting (or hoping for)?
How about this scenario: I get an advance for a book, I write a terrific novel, a real ground-breaker...but Penguin wants the next FIFTY SHADES OF GRAY. So they reject my book and then sue for the advance back (which they fronted in good faith). Nothing wrong with my book, it's just not lousy enough to appeal to the moron demographic Penguin is catering to.
Just a thought.
272iansales
Most of the accounts seem to agree that the authors took the money and didn't deliver. Jackie Collins did the same several years ago and was taken to court. She lost. It's fair enough - you pay for someone to do something, you expect them to do it.
273CliffBurns
But, Ian, what stops these fuckers from rejecting a book because it wasn't as shitty or commercial as the publishers were hoping? What if the book wasn't delivered on time because the author suffered health or personal issues? What if, unlike J.K. Rowling, the scribe in question possessed real integrity and refused to rush a book as its deadline approached?
Remember Douglas Adams' quip: "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by."
Remember Douglas Adams' quip: "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by."
274iansales
The books weren't rejected though. The article makes that quite clear. And if a book is rejected or delayed, then usually the editor, agent and author sit down and discuss how to resolve it. It's in the contract. If the author admits they'll never deliver it, for whatever reason, they usually agree to repay some or all of the advance. The fact that Penguin are resorting to the courts means they've not reached an agreement on repayment.
275CliffBurns
Resolve it? Like with J.K. Rowling?
"Hey, guys, the book needs another year."
"Well, we have a contractual release date..."
"But the book won't be any good! It'll be rushed, a complete mess."
Editor brays with laughter, agent nudges her playfully. "Honey, it doesn't matter. You think people give a shit? It's a POTTER book."
The author snickers. "Ah, you're right. And I can always release a 'Director's Cut' later."
Editor and agent high five. "NOW you're getting it, Jo..."
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I dunno, Ian. These idiots pay hefty advances and when difficulties arise, they sue to get their money back. We don't know what steps were taken to mitigate the situation and, as Robert Gottlieb indicated, the authors likely didn't have strong enough reputation. Gottlieb would've told the publishers to go screw themselves and with his heft, would have protected his clients.
The editors/publishers have a lot of power and this situation shows the possibility for abuse for just the reasons I outlined in #273. I don't trust those people, they have the morals of pit vipers. As ever, in the end it's always the writers who get screwed. And that's something I have rebelled against my entire career. EMPOWER THE AUTHOR. That's my mentality. And this situation is in stark contrast to that p.o.v.
"Hey, guys, the book needs another year."
"Well, we have a contractual release date..."
"But the book won't be any good! It'll be rushed, a complete mess."
Editor brays with laughter, agent nudges her playfully. "Honey, it doesn't matter. You think people give a shit? It's a POTTER book."
The author snickers. "Ah, you're right. And I can always release a 'Director's Cut' later."
Editor and agent high five. "NOW you're getting it, Jo..."
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I dunno, Ian. These idiots pay hefty advances and when difficulties arise, they sue to get their money back. We don't know what steps were taken to mitigate the situation and, as Robert Gottlieb indicated, the authors likely didn't have strong enough reputation. Gottlieb would've told the publishers to go screw themselves and with his heft, would have protected his clients.
The editors/publishers have a lot of power and this situation shows the possibility for abuse for just the reasons I outlined in #273. I don't trust those people, they have the morals of pit vipers. As ever, in the end it's always the writers who get screwed. And that's something I have rebelled against my entire career. EMPOWER THE AUTHOR. That's my mentality. And this situation is in stark contrast to that p.o.v.
276iansales
You know why situations like this don't make it into the newspapers very often? Because they don't happen every often. They usually get resolved by both parties coming to an agreement. As for the authors not having strong representation, the authors were celebrities, of course they have strong representation. Gottleib is just pimping himself and his services. It doesn't matter how much clout an agent has, they're not going to protect an author who took the money and didn't deliver - that would be theft. It's an advance, not a gift. And an agent who encouraged his clients to rip off publishers would find it difficult to sell his clients' work...
277CliffBurns
But do you agree that kind of power can be abused--as in the scenarios I listed in #273?
"Dear Mr. Sales: After some discussion, the editorial board has decided that your novel, despite its obvious literary merits, completely lacks the commercial appeal we were anticipating when we offered our initial advance. Therefore, we are hereby request the return of that advance and wish you all the best placing the novel elsewhere..."
And meanwhile you spent the advance trying to survive for 18 months-2 years to complete your book. AND the editor who originally championed your book has been fired or switched to another publisher or joined the priesthood.
In a word, you are fucked.
And all because you wrote a "good" book, as opposed to a book the corporates can sell like the latest widget.
"Dear Mr. Sales: After some discussion, the editorial board has decided that your novel, despite its obvious literary merits, completely lacks the commercial appeal we were anticipating when we offered our initial advance. Therefore, we are hereby request the return of that advance and wish you all the best placing the novel elsewhere..."
And meanwhile you spent the advance trying to survive for 18 months-2 years to complete your book. AND the editor who originally championed your book has been fired or switched to another publisher or joined the priesthood.
In a word, you are fucked.
And all because you wrote a "good" book, as opposed to a book the corporates can sell like the latest widget.
278iansales
I think in the Jackie Collins case she delivered a book that they rejected as unpublishable. But she refused to rewrite it, so they took her to court to get the advance back. I suppose it's not unlikely that an editor receives a manuscript that either isn't what he contracted for, or he thinks is completely not commercial. But then you'd expect the editor to work with the author to produce something they're both happy with. Or the author and publisher part ways after agreeing to repay some or all of the advance.
I've certainly heard of authors who were commissioned by editors who then left, and their new editor didn't want, or had no idea how to handle, their manuscript. In those cases, the publisher just slashed the print-run, did no promotion, and then used the book's subsequent lack of sales as an excuse to end the contract.
I've certainly heard of authors who were commissioned by editors who then left, and their new editor didn't want, or had no idea how to handle, their manuscript. In those cases, the publisher just slashed the print-run, did no promotion, and then used the book's subsequent lack of sales as an excuse to end the contract.
279CliffBurns
Publishing is a ruthless, nut-cutting business. Authors and readers secondary to ye olde profit line.
That's why I have nothing to do with the trads and can't wait until their "home run" business model blows up in their fat, self-satisfied faces.
That's why I have nothing to do with the trads and can't wait until their "home run" business model blows up in their fat, self-satisfied faces.
281CliffBurns
Yeah, an "unpublishable book" in the era of Stephenie Meyer, Amanda Hocking and E.L. James is an oxymoron.
282iansales
I've read some of Jackie Collins' novels - they are indeed shite. But, strange as it may seem, she delivered something her publishers thought unpublishable.
283CliffBurns
"I've read some of Jackie Collins' novels..."
I applaud the courage of that admission, Ian. You must have a well-developed gag reflex.
I applaud the courage of that admission, Ian. You must have a well-developed gag reflex.
284anna_in_pdx
282: I agree with you that they are awful. At times when it was between them and the phone book I have also read Ms. Steele. I wonder how bad it had to be for her publishers to sue for return of advance. Boy, the mind reels.
286CliffBurns
The things one discovers in group therapy. Ian...you amaze me.
288CliffBurns
"Hello, my name is Ian and I'm a trashaholic..."
290ajsomerset
If you take an advance and don't deliver, you should expect to be sued.
If you take an advance for a literary novel and the publisher rejects it because of a lack of commercial appeal, and then sues, they'll lose. The details of the book were discussed prior to contract; its commercial appeal was, to borrow from the Donald Rumsfeld playbook, a known known.
Quite simple, really.
If you take an advance for a literary novel and the publisher rejects it because of a lack of commercial appeal, and then sues, they'll lose. The details of the book were discussed prior to contract; its commercial appeal was, to borrow from the Donald Rumsfeld playbook, a known known.
Quite simple, really.
292CliffBurns
Quoting Rumsfeld at this time of the morning is cruel and unusual punishment--now THERE'S a man who deserves a good water-boarding.
I don't trust editors and publishers, it's that simple. I would likely have little affinity for any of the authors involved in the Penguin suit--but as far as I'm concerned, in the vast majority of cases it's the writers who should be suing publishers for lousy advances, failing to support their books, contempt and bad faith, failure to fully disclose book sales (royalties), mental anguish, etc.
I started pissing back at the suits over 20 years ago and have never regretted it. A substantial proportion of the people I've dealt with in the publishing biz, as I recently wrote on my RedRoom blog, are utter swine.
http://redroom.com/member/cliff-burns/blog/editorsthe-bane-of-writers
I don't trust editors and publishers, it's that simple. I would likely have little affinity for any of the authors involved in the Penguin suit--but as far as I'm concerned, in the vast majority of cases it's the writers who should be suing publishers for lousy advances, failing to support their books, contempt and bad faith, failure to fully disclose book sales (royalties), mental anguish, etc.
I started pissing back at the suits over 20 years ago and have never regretted it. A substantial proportion of the people I've dealt with in the publishing biz, as I recently wrote on my RedRoom blog, are utter swine.
http://redroom.com/member/cliff-burns/blog/editorsthe-bane-of-writers
293anna_in_pdx
Cliff, you see those giants everywhere, yet windmills also share the universe...
294CliffBurns
That's lovely, Anna.
But based on my experiences (which aren't that unique, by the way, as many writers have told me, discreetly, without wishing to blacken their names with the guys in suits), the carnivorous, brainless giants far outnumber the windmills. I couldn't hazard a guess as to how many authors have gotten in touch with me over the past 20 years, asking about independent writing, seeking advice on how to deal with a horrible editor or merely opining that they WISH they could go the indie route but lack the resources, the confidence...or still cling to the dream of breaking through with the trads. My blog serves as a lightning rod to a lot of folks disgruntled with the treatment they're receiving from editors/publishers...and that delights me to no end.
But based on my experiences (which aren't that unique, by the way, as many writers have told me, discreetly, without wishing to blacken their names with the guys in suits), the carnivorous, brainless giants far outnumber the windmills. I couldn't hazard a guess as to how many authors have gotten in touch with me over the past 20 years, asking about independent writing, seeking advice on how to deal with a horrible editor or merely opining that they WISH they could go the indie route but lack the resources, the confidence...or still cling to the dream of breaking through with the trads. My blog serves as a lightning rod to a lot of folks disgruntled with the treatment they're receiving from editors/publishers...and that delights me to no end.