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1Bcteagirl
I got some really good suggestions with my last query, so I thought I would make another.
Lately I have been thinking about what some of the oldest dystopian books might be. Especially if they are available in english. Any suggestions?
Lately I have been thinking about what some of the oldest dystopian books might be. Especially if they are available in english. Any suggestions?
2SusieBookworm
Chronological list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dystopian_literature
Some of the ones listed I wouldn't exactly consider dystopias, but it's still a great list. The oldest book mentioned is from 1835, but I don't think it's still published. Most of the 19th-century books still are, though, by places like Wesleyan Univ. Press, Syracuse Univ. Press, and the Bison Frontiers of Imagination Series from Nebraska Univ. Press.
Some of the ones listed I wouldn't exactly consider dystopias, but it's still a great list. The oldest book mentioned is from 1835, but I don't think it's still published. Most of the 19th-century books still are, though, by places like Wesleyan Univ. Press, Syracuse Univ. Press, and the Bison Frontiers of Imagination Series from Nebraska Univ. Press.
3Nickelini
The definition of dystopia is not fixed and so of course you will find all sorts of opinions. I took a dystopian lit class at uni and my prof considered the first real dystopian book to be We by Zamyatin, closely followed by Brave New World. Some earlier books that approached dystopia were Herland and Erehwon, and even More's Utopia. If you go ahead and read some of these--or the ones on the list in 2--come back and let us know if you think they fit.
4SusieBookworm
Of the ones before 1900, I've read the ones by Wells. When the Sleeper Wakes, which predates We by a few decades, definitely counts as a dystopia. The Machine Stops by E.M. Forster (1909) is definitely a dystopia, too.
Funny, Nickelini: I know Erewhon can be ambiguous on the utopia/dystopia line, but I've always heard of Herland and Utopia as being definitely utopian (again with the varying definitions of dystopia...)
Funny, Nickelini: I know Erewhon can be ambiguous on the utopia/dystopia line, but I've always heard of Herland and Utopia as being definitely utopian (again with the varying definitions of dystopia...)
5Bcteagirl
Brave New World and We are both on my wishlist right now. I am adding When the Sleeper Wakes and The Machine Stops as they both sound great! Thanks so much for the link, I am going to explore those books as well. :)
6Yells
I have a paperback copy of We and can throw that in my care package for you Bcteagirl. Its in decent shape but purchased used.
10SusieBookworm
The Republic of the Future is by a woman, Anna Bowman Dodd. It was published in 1887. The only other female dystopian writer before Rand that I can find is Katharine Burdekin. I believe three of her science fiction novels are published by the Feminist Press at CUNY.
12lquilter
Another early 20th century dystopia by a woman is Kallocain by Karin Boye; it's available in an English translation.
13LamSon
For old dystopian/post-apocalyptic check out www.manybooks.net
I have found: The Last Man by Mary Shelley and Last Men in London by Olaf Stapledon...
I have found: The Last Man by Mary Shelley and Last Men in London by Olaf Stapledon...
14Bcteagirl
Wonderful thank you so much LamSon!
I also found a few for free on Gutenberg here:
http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page
I also found a few for free on Gutenberg here:
http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page
15Bcteagirl
To be more specific, books I was able to find on Gutenberg so far:
I Robot Anthem The First Men in the Moon When the Sleeper Wakes and War of the Worlds. Quite a lot of H.G. Wells
I Robot Anthem The First Men in the Moon When the Sleeper Wakes and War of the Worlds. Quite a lot of H.G. Wells
16LamSon
I have been reading David Karp's novel One. So far I would have to give it at least four stars. It came out in 1953.
It is similar to 1984, but more subtle, which makes it more unnerving. The main character is a correspondent for the Department of Internal Examination. He has been trained to read lips which aids him in reporting heresies to the Department. Eventually he comes under the scrutiny of the Department...
It is similar to 1984, but more subtle, which makes it more unnerving. The main character is a correspondent for the Department of Internal Examination. He has been trained to read lips which aids him in reporting heresies to the Department. Eventually he comes under the scrutiny of the Department...