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With or Without Me: A Memoir of Losing and Finding

por Esther Maria Magnis

Otros autores: Alta L. Price (Traductor)

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With or Without Me is a book for everyone - believer or unbeliever, Christian or atheist- who refuses to surrender to the idea that there are easy answers to the big questions in life. Doubt about God's goodness in the face of grief is natural. With or Without Me is one woman's unsparing and eloquent memoir about the inadequacy of religion and philosophy to answer her emotional pain. Yet Esther Maria Magnis's rejection of God is merely the beginning of a tortuous journey back to faith - one punctuated by personal losses retold with bluntness and immediacy.  Magnis knows believing in God is anything but easy. Because he allows people to suffer. Because he's invisible. And silent.  "A must read for anyone who has ever pondered the meaning of life" - Lydia S. Dugdale, Author of The Lost Art of Dying… (más)
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I requested this ER book on a whim, curious about "an unsparing and eloquent critique of religion" that nonetheless doesn't end in atheism, as that journey resonates with my own. Despite studying German at an American evangelical university, I also know very little about contemporary German Christianity and thought that might be an interesting point of comparison.

Magnis is indeed "unsparing" in her honesty about the confusion of an adolescent faith, which I partly recognize from my own religious upbringing, as when she notes God "really got on my nerves with all his other plans, the kind you could only guess at, or had to cobble together from the Bible." Understandably, after months of prayer and hoping, her father's death from cancer prompted a crisis of faith for her 17-year-old self, and also understandably, she thought and behaved like an adolescent before and after this tragedy. Over time she reconstructs a (Catholic) faith that works for her, which is challenged again by her brother's cancer diagnosis. The book ends with his death, which is not addressed directly, except of course by the book's existence itself.

Though the blurb didn't emphasize the fact, this is very much a grief memoir. I've read a fair amount of them for one reason or another, and they're not always something I can "appreciate," though any given book that doesn't work for me very well might be ideal for another reader. I find Magnis's emphasis on both her youthful interiority and the minutiae of daily life at once unique and valuable, but also frustrating. It's understandable that she'd act and think and dream as she does, and there's a value to exploring her experience, if only for empathy's sake. But that's not what I was expecting from this book or am currently particularly interested in, so I'm likely not the ideal reader at this point.
  InfoQuest | Dec 19, 2022 |
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Summary: A memoir of losing a father to cancer and the loss of faith that came when earnest, believing prayers went unanswered, and the slow journey back.

Esther’s father announced the news as Christmas approached. He had cancer and the doctors said it was too advanced for them to do anything. He had weeks to a few months to live. Esther had grown up in a church-going family in Germany. Her first prayer was, “I want to keep dad.” She, her brother, and sister joined in attic prayer meetings. Her father fought back and for a short while, the cancer relented and it seemed their prayers were being answered. And then it came roaring back. And for a time, she prayed even more, believing they would travel to Spain as a family. But dad died. And God died to Esther.

The middle part of this book is hard reading, as Esther retells the rawness of her grief, her anger at the God who did not act, who was silent. She skips school, drinks, and embraces all the skepticism of those around her about God and truth. This section is full of expletives, many directed toward God. She engages in internal debates with “the clown” and “the snitch” representing skepticism about God and truth and even one’s own existence. Finally she hits rock bottom during a forest party a year after her father died on Easter weekend and declares, “I don’t care.”

Silence. God is silent, and yet present. She realizes that “God subverts silence. There must be a power there we do not understand.” Singing a lullaby to her grandmother who suffers from dementia, she sings the words “He has not forgotten thee” and remembers how she heard it as a child–“Godandthee.’ She questions the certitude of those who confidently assert “there is no truth.” How can they be so confident, then of the truth of this statement? Slowly she gropes her way back to faith, just in time for her brother, who will face his own existential crisis.

This is a powerful memoir. No easy answers. Hard painful realities of life. Unvarnished and raw at times. Believing can be challenging. But for the author, not believing is even harder. In the end, she faced the reality that despite all the hard stuff, at the bottom of reality, “God is.”

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Disclosure of Material Connection: I received a complimentary review copy of this book from the publisher via LibraryThing’s Early Reviewer Program. ( )
  BobonBooks | Jul 20, 2022 |
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I received this book as an Early Reviewer. While this book was not at all bad, I think it was just not for me. Part of the reason I signed up for it was an interest in people's spiritual journeys over time. Truthfully, this book should not be advertised as one of religion; rather, it's a book about family. Only about 1/4 of this book was pertaining to the theme of religion, whereas the rest delves deep into the author's family and the trials they've been faced with. Perhaps I just wasn't in the right mindset for this theme at this point in my life.  Theme aside, my slight bias against the writing style can be summed up in a quote from pg. 172 of the book: "That's why this very book is full of nonsense and half-baked thoughts." Had this mention gone at the beginning of the book, I may have been more receptive. Alas, it was near the end, where I'd already made up my mind about feeling lost and as though the writing, especially in reference to the authors spiritual journey, was on the bumpiest, curviest roller coaster I could imagine.  I feel the need to reiterate. This book is not bad at all! It just may not be for all audiences.  ( )
  bridgetisrad | Apr 24, 2022 |
Esta reseña ha sido escrita por los Primeros Reseñadores de LibraryThing.
Although this book is classified as Christian biography, the subject matter could also be identified as an exercise in existentialism as well. Ganesh, Buddha, Mohammed or any other deity might be substituted for the God Esther prays to for the life of her father. She deals with the greatest questions of human existence: why do we suffer, why does God allow us to, what is the meaning of our lives, does God hear us, does He care, why do we not hear His answers?

Unlike a typical story/biography/autobiography, there is less action and more sharing of Esther’s thoughts and interior conversations; arguments for and against the existence of God and their evolution. This is no fairy tale, much as we are longing for it to be. Her questioning is ours, and human lives have always existed largely in the unknowable, although some of us have and do rely on faith.

There are many layers of metaphor in the writing and in the physical design of the book itself. The color red in the one word of the title - does it stand for life and God, or the black void of death in a Godless universe? Each chapter’s beginning sentence or phrase is highlighted in red - is this a synopsis or a prelude? Pagination in the outer margin of each page is underlined in a red strand that bleeds onto the paper’s edge, resulting in a jagged line on the fore edge; emblematic of the father’s cruel sufferings and remissions from cancer, or Esther’s wavering belief/disbelief, hopes, devastations, understandings, peace? Only to be repeated again. These are the lives we lead.

What looks to be a quick read is anything but. Only 201 pages comprising 16 chapters, some only a page or a page and a fraction long, they are slow and meditative. These are deep, introspective thoughts that must be considered and digested before continuing. There is much beautiful, en pointe imagery, as on page 88:

“Your spine is so broken and out of shape that you yourself become the
question mark.”

Esther is a teen in body only. In mind and spirit, she is an old and weary soul, rediscovering all the permutations for God’s existence which scholars have debated for all of time. I hear my own thoughts. In the end, you’ll have to read this intellectual symphony to see what Esther decides. This book could have been written for me. Perhaps it was.
  grounds | Apr 9, 2022 |
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An early reviewers book.
I asked for this book about losing and finding faith after the death of a loved one because I have undergone a similar experience. From time to time I will pick up similar works looking for insight or understanding and never find a satisfactory answer. This book, though beautifully written, is no exception. I can fully relate to her anger at God after the death of her father. But I find it hard to understand how she comes back to faith. Perhaps some answers cannot be found in books. That said, I can still recommend this book for anyone concerned with matters of faith. ( )
  harryo19 | Apr 4, 2022 |
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With or Without Me is a book for everyone - believer or unbeliever, Christian or atheist- who refuses to surrender to the idea that there are easy answers to the big questions in life. Doubt about God's goodness in the face of grief is natural. With or Without Me is one woman's unsparing and eloquent memoir about the inadequacy of religion and philosophy to answer her emotional pain. Yet Esther Maria Magnis's rejection of God is merely the beginning of a tortuous journey back to faith - one punctuated by personal losses retold with bluntness and immediacy.  Magnis knows believing in God is anything but easy. Because he allows people to suffer. Because he's invisible. And silent.  "A must read for anyone who has ever pondered the meaning of life" - Lydia S. Dugdale, Author of The Lost Art of Dying

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