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The Idiot por Elif Batuman
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The Idiot (edición 2017)

por Elif Batuman (Autor)

Series: Selin Karadag (1)

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Esta historia empieza en el ao 1995, cuando el e-mail era algo nuevo y emocionante. La protagonista es Selin, hija de inmigrantes turcos apasionada por la literatura que acaba de llegar a Harvard decidida a convertirse en escritora. Acostumbrada a vivir a travs de los libros, llega a la universidad sin manual de instrucciones: cmo se hacen amigos? Cmo se enamora uno? Importan ms las cosas cuando se viven que cuando se leen? Selin ve su vida como una narracin ms pero, qu pasa cuando intentamos aadir otras personas a nuestra historia? As empieza su relacin con Ivan, un estudiante hngaro de matemticas algo mayor que ella con quien comenzar a escribirse. Mediante el correo electrnico, crearn un mundo paralelo habitable (o una barrera de ficcin tras la que esconderse) que rpidamente eclipsar todas sus otras relaciones. Duante el ao que cubre esta novela de iniciacin, la herona de Batuman emplea un ingenio y una mordacidad entraables para descubrirse y, sobre todo, inventarse ante el desafo que supone llegar a la edad adulta. Esta debut nominado al Pulitzer es una reflexin perdurable sobre la relacin entre el arte y la vida, las palabras y el mundo real, las historias que nos contamos y las narrativas en las que quermos encajar.… (más)
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Título:The Idiot
Autores:Elif Batuman (Autor)
Información:Penguin Press (2017), Edition: First Edition, 432 pages
Colecciones:Tu biblioteca, Actualmente leyendo, Por leer, Lo he leído pero no lo tengo, Favoritos
Valoración:****
Etiquetas:faves-of-2018

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(4.5 stars) This book really took me on a journey. I loved how much I got to know Selin and honestly it was so funny. I really enjoyed her dry sense of humor. It would have been 5 stars, but I just did not get the romance aspect, sorry. ( )
  sahara685 | Aug 18, 2024 |
I was rather charmed by ‘The Idiot’, although I didn’t find it as hilarious as [b:The Possessed: Adventures With Russian Books and the People Who Read Them|6763627|The Possessed Adventures With Russian Books and the People Who Read Them|Elif Batuman|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1441764218s/6763627.jpg|6961467]. Batuman’s narrator Selin remains somewhat elusive, despite having a distinctive voice. I liked the sense that she was uncertain of herself and discovering who she was; a realistic situation for a first year undergraduate student. However, I did wonder whether the meandering and anecdotal style could be sustained for 400 pages. Although my interest was kept, once I got to the end of the book the whole thing seemed to dissolve in my head. There’s something insubstantial about it, despite moments of great insight and amusement. This is definitely a matter of taste, of course. Batuman’s writing is great, especially her meditations on the nature of language, but her non-fiction is simply more to my liking. I found Selin’s crush on Ivan rather tiresome, because Ivan is rather tiresome. While this is probably also realistic, it took up a lot of space and dragged a bit. Selin’s relationship with her friend Svetlana was much more interesting. This scene with Selin, Svetlana, and Svetlana’s mother was priceless:

She turned to me abruptly. “Do you wax your eyebrows? Surely you must pluck them, with tweezers. No? They have such an interesting shape. It doesn’t look quite natural. Of course, you don’t need to do anything with your eyebrows. Well, maybe you could just clean them up a little bit, right here, but it’s not a crisis. Not like Svetlana, who won’t do anything with hers, and they make her look so angry.”
“I am angry, Mom. It’s not my eyebrows.”
“Yes, I know, darling, you keep saying that. But they give you a sullen look, like a sulky little boy. You would be so much more attractive without it. Don’t you think, Selin?”
I knew the look she meant, it was at a certain angle when she looked down, and it was dear to me. “I like Svetlana’s eyebrows,” I said.
“Ah!” She sighed. “You girls are so young.”
“I don’t feel young,” Svetlana said. “This day has aged me a thousand years.”


In part 'The Idiot' was a victim of high expectations. If I hadn’t already read anything by Batuman I might have given it four stars. Capricious as it seems, I can only award three when my expectations were high and it was somehow too wispy to meet them. ( )
1 vota annarchism | Aug 4, 2024 |
best "coming of age" (not that i would specifically put it in that category) type story i've ever read. it's an actual coming of age story, one that, while slightly unrealistic for the sake of entertainment, is not just believable, but also relatable, hilarious, and real. the writing blends together seamlessly, and while towards the middle of the book i believed it should be shorter, i would now refuse to sacrifice a single word. ( )
  nervousyoungthing | Jul 1, 2024 |
DNF @34 pages
Basically the observations and conversations of a boring Harvard undergrad. Nothing resonated or hit for me, felt myself zoning out.
  spiritedstardust | Jun 1, 2024 |
It's the mid 1990s and Selin is in her freshman year at Harvard. Email is new, cell phones aren't around yet, and Selin is navigating the transition to adulthood. She's learning to interact with her peers and learning all the different ways people interact with each other and the world. And, of course, what story about young adults could avoid a love interest?

I loved the opening of this book. Selin's voice is funny and the mid-90s college setting is my era. But, reading this on my kindle, I found myself checking how close I was to the end after 16% of the book was read. Hmm. I don't think Batuman really sustained the freshness that she achieves in the opening of the novel.

I kept reading and moderately enjoyed it, but I got annoyed with the love interest and thought things just got a little too out-there for me.

OK, but not as special as I was hoping it would be. ( )
  japaul22 | Jun 1, 2024 |
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The sermonic version of The Idiot might conclude with this: if power compromises love, and sex involves power, then sex always compromises love. To be intoxicated by someone’s power is to allow your love for them to be compromised. True love will not save you: the truer the love the deeper the compromise.

I don’t think Selin sees a way out of this predicament.
añadido por elenchus | editarThe Millions, Kris Bartkus (Apr 20, 2017)
 
In one respect, The Idiot, a debut novel by Elif Batuman, staff writer at the New Yorker, is an expansion of the Hungary-based segment of her nonfiction The Possessed: Adventures with Russian Books and the People Who Read Them. Ironically, however, it strikes you as throwaway material that didn’t merit inclusion in that well-received work. It’s mostly bland and boring. At over 400 pages, it also feels interminable...Ultimately, you cannot but wonder why Batuman wrote such a meandering and listless novel. Because it reflects her real-life experiences? If so, the author would do well to emulate a minor character in The Idiot, who, unlike Selin and a friend of hers, “doesn’t compulsively rehash everything that happens to her in the form of a story.
 
Elif Batuman’s first novel, “The Idiot,” is in part about the unlikely and consuming crush that Selin, the daughter of Turkish immigrants, develops on an older mathematics student from Hungary during her freshman year at Harvard.

It is unclear, for hundreds of pages, whether this crush is requited. Meanwhile the reader, palm crushed into forehead, thinks, “Poor Selin, what are you doing to yourself?”..Small pleasures will have to sustain you over the long haul of this novel. “The Idiot” builds little narrative or emotional force. It is like a beautiful neon sign made without a plug. No glow is cast... After 100 pages, I was done with Ivan and wanted Selin to be done, too....There are two things I admire about this novel. One is the touching sense, here as in everything Batuman writes, that books are life. Selin is, convincingly and only slightly pretentiously, the sort of person who buys an overcoat because it reminds her of Gogol’s...this wry but distant novel, never becomes an enveloping one. Fiction, like love, is strange.
 
Now she’s continued this project in a long and enjoyably literary novel, The Idiot...A summary of this kind makes the novel sound like a treatise, which is exactly what it is not. The voice throughout is colloquial and humorous. And as a reading experience, it is enjoyable: a generously capacious book that creates an alternative world for the reader to inhabit in a manner comparable to the Russian novels that Batuman loves. Part of the pleasure is that many of the characters are unusually likable. Selin’s friends are consistently warm, curious and interesting, despite waking her up with their snoring or dismissing her love for Ivan. Even her interfering mother is generally sensible in her advice.
Elif Batuman interview: ‘I thought racism and sexism were over. I was in for a rude awakening’
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The likability tends to be confined to the female characters, however...A young woman discovers the difference between life and literature in a warm, funny portrayal of university life in the 90s
 

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But the characteristic feature of the ridiculous age I was going through---awkward indeed but by no means infertile---is that we do not consult our intelligence and that the most trivial attributes of other people seem to us to form an inseparable part of their personality.  In a world thronged with monsters and with gods, we know little peace of mind.  There is hardly a single action we perform in that phase which we would not give anything, in later life, to be able to annul.  Whereas what we ought to regret is that we no longer possess the spontaneity which made us perform them.  In later life we look at things in a more practical way, in full conformity with the rest of society, but adolescence is the only period in which we learn anything.
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Esta historia empieza en el ao 1995, cuando el e-mail era algo nuevo y emocionante. La protagonista es Selin, hija de inmigrantes turcos apasionada por la literatura que acaba de llegar a Harvard decidida a convertirse en escritora. Acostumbrada a vivir a travs de los libros, llega a la universidad sin manual de instrucciones: cmo se hacen amigos? Cmo se enamora uno? Importan ms las cosas cuando se viven que cuando se leen? Selin ve su vida como una narracin ms pero, qu pasa cuando intentamos aadir otras personas a nuestra historia? As empieza su relacin con Ivan, un estudiante hngaro de matemticas algo mayor que ella con quien comenzar a escribirse. Mediante el correo electrnico, crearn un mundo paralelo habitable (o una barrera de ficcin tras la que esconderse) que rpidamente eclipsar todas sus otras relaciones. Duante el ao que cubre esta novela de iniciacin, la herona de Batuman emplea un ingenio y una mordacidad entraables para descubrirse y, sobre todo, inventarse ante el desafo que supone llegar a la edad adulta. Esta debut nominado al Pulitzer es una reflexin perdurable sobre la relacin entre el arte y la vida, las palabras y el mundo real, las historias que nos contamos y las narrativas en las que quermos encajar.

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