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1Praveenna_Nagaratnam
Editado: mayo 9, 2023, 4:13 am

Pre orders are opening on the 17th of May (16th for those who ordered Night Circus and War House)
Details of the Collectors edition and Deluxe are as below

4c_schelle
mayo 16, 2023, 4:05 am

Pre-orders for inkheart are open for newsletter subscribers.

5Praveenna_Nagaratnam
mayo 17, 2023, 8:51 am

Mike from Books Illustrated just posted a video overview of the collectors edition. It really looks lovely. I hope more publishers will consider using animal free bindings in the future

6DMulvee
mayo 17, 2023, 8:56 am

The animal free binding is why I'm not opting for this, even though it had been on my list of books to look out for. I think they will need to see whether this strengthens or weakens demand, and then decide if this is a route they wish to pursue in the future

7Praveenna_Nagaratnam
Editado: mayo 17, 2023, 7:28 pm

>6 DMulvee: Could I ask why? Are you worried that the binding won't hold up long term? Have these materials been used before? Genuinely curious. The collector's edition binding looks like Suede. I was contemplating getting the deluxe, but didn't feel the upgrade was worth double the price. I am also not familiar with the binding material -Alcantara. So in the end I opted for the collector's edition

8DMulvee
mayo 17, 2023, 10:26 am

>7 Praveenna_Nagaratnam: Yes, it is just how it lasts in the long term. I think I read that this was a request from the author rather than being an initial idea from the publisher, which also concerned me a little - if the publisher has a vision then that is fair enough, but if the author makes demands (which they are within their right to do) I do wonder if the buyer will suffer. Hopefully it works fantastically well

9SF-72
mayo 17, 2023, 12:27 pm

>5 Praveenna_Nagaratnam:

I also appreciate that they didn't use leather. I definitely prefer cloth for several reasons.

10NathanOv
mayo 17, 2023, 12:38 pm

>6 DMulvee: I'll take a nice cloth and/or interesting board binding over leather any day. It feels and looks nicer to me, and is typically less prone to wear. Quite often, it's even a mark of higher quality over all the cheap full leather bindings that have flooded the market.

That said, I'm scratching my head at the use of a synthetic suede when there are so many nice book cloths readily available.

11What_What
Editado: mayo 17, 2023, 12:49 pm

I’d have preferred leather myself. It just feels nicer to the touch, and I think it can often be a byproduct of the industry, so it has the added bonus of knowing there are delicious meals being facilitated as well.

12CTPress-Tony
mayo 17, 2023, 12:52 pm

Alcantara is a premium, Italian-made material that’s more durable than suede and for this reason it’s used in luxury cars like Maseratis.

13Shadekeep
mayo 17, 2023, 2:21 pm

>10 NathanOv: I'm partial to cloth as well. I don't even balk at bonded paper covers as long as they are done properly. Watered silk is pretty nice as well.

14Glacierman
mayo 17, 2023, 2:57 pm

>10 NathanOv: Quite often, it's even a mark of higher quality over all the cheap full leather bindings that have flooded the market.

Makes me wonder if those are really leather or a leather composite or even perhaps a leather-grained cloth material. I've seen people fooled by the latter into thinking a book was bound in leather. And composite leather is a leather product which can be touted as being leather even if somewhat mis-leading.

15NathanOv
mayo 17, 2023, 3:39 pm

>14 Glacierman: I think some people just over estimate the cost of the material vs. the cost of quality binding work.

For example, Easton Press is able to afford full-leather bindings with all their little flourishes because they skimp on manufacturing costs, and all those Etsy sellers are able to offer full Morocco or calf-skin bindings at suspiciously low costs.

All that's without even getting too deep into the range of quality for genuine leather bindings.

16kermaier
mayo 17, 2023, 4:09 pm

>15 NathanOv: Talas sells 4 square feet of 1st-quality Harmatan goatskin for $170. That's probably enough for two full-leather bindings of octavo-sized volumes (without any acutal knowledge of how much wastage/off-cut is typical). So, not cheap, but the minor component of a time-and-materials breakdown of the cost of an expert binding job, I'd imagine.

17Praveenna_Nagaratnam
Editado: mayo 17, 2023, 7:35 pm

>12 CTPress-Tony: That is interesting. I think Mike did mention that they contemplated few options before choosing these materials. I just saw the video of the deluxe edition as well and it is bigger than the collector's edition. The solander box is lovely and there is a signed limited edition print inside the box. I wish they had upgraded the paper too for the deluxe. Then I might have strongly considered upgrading.

18Books-Illustrated
mayo 18, 2023, 5:30 am

>17 Praveenna_Nagaratnam: Hello Praveena, We looked at many bonded materials that give a leather like feel, however we were not convinced that they were better than the Suedel and Alcantara. We upgrade the deluxe with the binding, the signed print, solander box, gilding and tipped-in frontispiece. The Prestige edition has upgraded paper and so much more. And I really like Munken :)

19ExLibrisDavid
mayo 20, 2023, 1:10 am

>18 Books-Illustrated: Cheers to you for creating another beautiful series of books. The craftsmanship and overall theme are quite impressive! Unfortunately I missed out on the Collectors edition of Night Circus and while War Horse and Ink Heart look beautiful, I struggle to spend that much for a YA novel. Perhaps that's snobbish of me, but it seems like there are a great many novels out there with more depth to enjoy first. I'm looking forward to what your future offerings will be though!

20AlexBookshelfFrog
Editado: Jun 5, 2023, 12:46 pm

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21NathanOv
Jun 5, 2023, 12:49 pm

>20 AlexBookshelfFrog: Suntup’s few letterpress Artist’s Editions have been similarly priced. I think a lot of people prefer the numbered Suntup’s because they’re often letterpress, but what you’re really paying extra for is the binding upgrade, improved paper and scarcity.

22What_What
Jun 6, 2023, 9:17 am

It's a bit generous to say the numbered are often letterpress, isn't it? I don't have the numbers in front of me, but it just doesn't feel accurate.

23AlexBookshelfFrog
Editado: Jun 17, 2023, 10:21 am

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24tkellici
Jun 17, 2023, 10:32 am

>23 AlexBookshelfFrog: I bought Night Circus a few weeks ago. It came with UPS.

25AlexBookshelfFrog
Jun 17, 2023, 12:16 pm

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26AlexBookshelfFrog
Editado: Jun 24, 2023, 4:02 am

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27Praveenna_Nagaratnam
Jun 24, 2023, 10:57 am

>26 AlexBookshelfFrog: It is so beautiful. I keep mine vertically.

28Praveenna_Nagaratnam
Jun 24, 2023, 11:20 am

Just received the latest newletter with an announcement that the next book could possibly be The Starless Sea.
I really hope they go ahead with this one.

29AlexBookshelfFrog
Jun 24, 2023, 2:26 pm

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30Praveenna_Nagaratnam
Jun 25, 2023, 4:27 am

>29 AlexBookshelfFrog: Yes, I got the deluxe of The Night Circusg and the collector's edition of Inkheart. I only recently read Warhorse. The story was nice, and I really like Christian Birmingham's illustrations. Will likely get the collector's edition of that too.
If they really do Starless Sea, will definitely get the deluxe of that (If I can afford it, I would want to get a lettered)

31AlexBookshelfFrog
Jun 25, 2023, 5:17 am

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32Praveenna_Nagaratnam
Jun 25, 2023, 9:32 am

33AlexBookshelfFrog
Jun 27, 2023, 11:29 am

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34NathanOv
Jun 27, 2023, 12:43 pm

>33 AlexBookshelfFrog: Contrary to the narrative around some other publishers, there's nothing wrong with having available stock! It's often a sign of a fairly stable ad healthy business, and is the norm for larger publishers like Thornwillow and Arion.

The instant sellouts that get talked about so much are not the norm.

35AlexBookshelfFrog
Jun 27, 2023, 8:28 pm

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36SDB2012
Jun 28, 2023, 12:11 pm

>35 AlexBookshelfFrog: Suntup is an anomaly. He is also a very good marketer and does more to engage with his clients than any publisher I'm aware of.

37BooksFriendsNotFood
Editado: Jul 3, 2023, 1:31 am

>30 Praveenna_Nagaratnam: I also recently read War Horse and I really loved it! I'd love to own a copy of the book and these seem to be the nicest editions. I was looking at the different states available and I love the marbled endpapers on the Prestige edition and I like that all of the illustrations are tipped in. I've also never seen a vellum binding before and imagine that it may look & feel really nice? That being said, I strongly dislike the behemoth solander box, the oddly sized drawers in it, the quote on the inside of the box with the odd spacing between each set of two lines, etc.

I doubt that I will have $3200 lying about any time soon - too many upcoming book releases to look forward to plus the question of whether the book by itself is worth this much to me - but I sometimes find myself thinking: how horrible of an idea would it be to get the Prestige edition and more or less throw out the box...? 🙈

38Books-Illustrated
Sep 2, 2023, 3:39 am

Update on Inkheart: The pages have now been printed courtesy of Nomad Letterpress and are now in the skilled hands of Ludlow Bookbinders. We are still on schedule for a mailing of orders in November.....in time for Christmas. Details on the books can be found - www.booksillustrated.com/inkheart

39Praveenna_Nagaratnam
Sep 5, 2023, 5:37 am

>38 Books-Illustrated: Thanks for the update Mike

40Praveenna_Nagaratnam
Sep 5, 2023, 5:40 am

For fans of The Night Circus and Books Illustrated, looks like their next book is going to be The Starless Sea based on the latest short video Mike posted on instagram. I loved the book, so this is a definite deluxe edition buy for me. Can't wait to see what they have planned in terms of binding, design and illustrations

41Ragnaroek
Sep 5, 2023, 7:14 am

>40 Praveenna_Nagaratnam:
It will look wonderful I bet !

42Objectr
Sep 12, 2023, 7:46 am

Just received an email for The Starless Sea production, and I was greatly disappointed to read that the printing for this is going to be offset while maintaining the same price point as their previous letterpress books — for the lettered editions at least.

43Ragnaroek
Sep 12, 2023, 9:33 am

I didnt got any Mail so far, which is very disappointing.

Not letterpress for the same price 🤯

44Praveenna_Nagaratnam
Sep 12, 2023, 9:42 am

>42 Objectr: Just received the same email for the deluxe edition. Such a shame that they aren't printing this letterpress; and yes I do wonder too why the price remains the same then. I rather forgo the signed art print in exchange for letterpress printing anytime. Does the lettered come with an original illustration then?

45Praveenna_Nagaratnam
Sep 12, 2023, 9:58 am

Just received a reply from Mike. They opted for ofset litho printing to maintain the price of the edition because if they chose letterpress printing, the price would have to be higher.

46Objectr
Sep 12, 2023, 10:07 am

>44 Praveenna_Nagaratnam: per the website the lettered includes 17 signed prints, no original

$2,450 for a printed offset book is nearing the asinine Suntup lettered pricing of the same quality. Given the lackluster sales of the lettered Inkheart (17 remain available) I cannot imagine why lowering quality and maintaining price point would be a valid idea. I’d much rather forego presentation and signed prints in order to have a letterpress printed book, but that’s just me.

47NathanOv
Sep 12, 2023, 10:33 am

>42 Objectr: Disappointing - this was going to my first Books Illustrated purchase because I was looking forward to a letterpress edition of this particular title.

Given other presses can afford at least a basic letterpress text block on decent paper for less than $100 / copy, I can't imagine they're eking out a particularly big profit margin with this change.

48DMulvee
Sep 12, 2023, 11:04 am

I didn’t receive the email but the change to offset makes it a pass from me.

49Ragnaroek
Editado: Sep 12, 2023, 12:03 pm

Its interesting that there is an standard Edition now.

Not sure an non letterpress lettered Edition will sell very well though.

Would 150 more pages printed letterpress make such an huge price difference to go for full offset printing instead?

50DMulvee
Sep 12, 2023, 12:38 pm

>49 Ragnaroek: There could be an impact on timeframe - if you want letterpress maybe they had to wait an extra six months, but offset could be done immediately?

51Ragnaroek
Editado: Sep 12, 2023, 3:30 pm

>50 DMulvee:
That's true . 👍
I in general have no problem with offset print, but I have to admit that I grew quite fond of letterpress, especially "the night circus " was a lovely work.
But beside that it had an wonderful smelling leather beautifully bound , with gorgeous Illustrations.
I will bite in the sour apple and buy it I think, we will see.

52wcarter
Sep 12, 2023, 7:43 pm

The fact that it is offset print does not worry me at all as they produce beautiful books and I have ordered a deluxe edition.

53RRCBS
Sep 12, 2023, 7:57 pm

Is there a link for the starless sea preorder? I subscribe the their emails but I didn’t get any news on this.

54Praveenna_Nagaratnam
Sep 12, 2023, 9:53 pm

>51 Ragnaroek: Same here. I really want a beautiful copy of this book, so I am still going to order the deluxe edition. Just really wish they had used letterpress printing

55Praveenna_Nagaratnam
Sep 12, 2023, 9:53 pm

>53 RRCBS: The preorder is currently only open to those who ordered a lettered or deluxe copy of The Night Circus. The public preorders will be on Sept 30th

56Ragnaroek
Sep 12, 2023, 10:49 pm

I hope the next publication will be 'Dracula', 😂 I miss on an beautiful copy of this book and the second Hand Amaranthine prices are just dumb.
Somewhere 2025 should come 'Life of Pi' if I remember correctly.

57SF-72
Editado: Sep 13, 2023, 3:23 am

>55 Praveenna_Nagaratnam:

Thank you. I wondered, too, since I didn't get any email, but then I ordered a collector's edition of Night Circus, not the higher levels.

58Books-Illustrated
Sep 13, 2023, 7:17 am

Hello Everyone,

I know that many publishers do not always respond to tricky questions but I think some very valid points have be made. I would like to give you the reasons why The Starless Sea is being published as we have announced.
The first point is we are very pro letterpress and have titles planned that will be printed this way. However, we get more emails from people who really want a finely bound signed book that is beautifully illustrated but they are finding that the costs are too hard for them to bear in these current times. We opened the Pre-order for The Night Circus on 17 January 2022. General inflation since then has been between 6-7% annually and in our industry many costs have also increased greatly. So we decided to assist people the best way we can by keeping prices affordable, but still produce a stunning edition we can be proud of. Printing letterpress is about 8-10% of the costs and as we have published many fine litho limited editions in the past we decided this one would be litho. We also are offering people the chance to purchase a securing voucher so as to spread out the cost.
Businesses have to take customers concerns seriously and make the best decisions they can. I know that this may not suit your particular view but we are like most publishers that publish letterpress and Litho.
Best regards to all you book lovers; we love being part of this wonderful business full of passionate beliefs.

Mike
Please feel free to ask me any questions and I will do my best to answer them, however we are thankfully very busy at the moment!

59SF-72
Sep 13, 2023, 7:56 am

>58 Books-Illustrated:

Thank you for the explanations. To me it makes complete sense. I look forward to (hopefully) buying the Collectors Edition to match my Night Circus.

60Ragnaroek
Editado: Sep 13, 2023, 8:54 am

Offset printing is right after letterpress printing, so I can live with that. I just want to have an gorgeous and lovely smelling leather 😍😊

How is the technique called Ludlow uses for most of his books ? I dont know how to describe it tbh.

But the Deluxe Warhorse and Night Circus used an different kind of binding.

The Night Circus had the handbands neatly hidden with the spine.

Warhorse had it well visible... I hope someone gets what I mean 🤣😂

Don't know how to post pictures

61RRCBS
Sep 13, 2023, 9:33 am

Was any detail given on the cost for the standard edition?

62Ragnaroek
Editado: Sep 13, 2023, 9:50 am

>61 RRCBS:
The standard Hardback Edition with an Dustwrapper is 95£

If it has sewn pages and maybe is bound in some not so expensive cloth , this is an good thing

63amysisson
Sep 14, 2023, 2:25 pm

Starless Sea is going to be gorgeous! I'm happy to be able to get a matched number for Night Circus.

64BookMercenary
Nov 21, 2023, 7:39 am

Inkheart is soon on its way.
Not sure it include only the standard state or standard and deluxe, though.

Iam happy and hope they do the whole trilogy. (A fourth book has joined this year , though )

>63 amysisson:
I opt out, because its not letterpress printed, but has the same price as Night Circus.
Yes, there is an explanation above somewhere , but people who weren't able to afford such an Book before, are not able now aswell... it has the exact same price ... I would have understand this, if it had been cheaper, but yes...
Someone that can afford an 300-700£ book wouldn't say no to a letterpress printed version for some money more I bet.

65RRCBS
Nov 21, 2023, 9:46 am

>64 BookMercenary: Have you read the book as an adult? It looks well made and I generally enjoy well done YA books, but have hesitated on this one due to some mixed reviews…

66Libri_mea_vita_sunt
Nov 21, 2023, 11:54 am

>65 RRCBS:
I read the book as adult and I still like it. Books about books are always nice.

67Books-Illustrated
Nov 24, 2023, 9:20 am

Next week we will be visiting Ludlow Bookbinders and it will be great to see the INKHEART books as they are nearly ready for dispatch. I know you are as excited as we are to get them in your hands. It is a privilege to be able to publish the books we love. Not really like work at all... :)

68Libri_mea_vita_sunt
Nov 24, 2023, 10:52 am

>67 Books-Illustrated:
All states of Inkheart are going to get dispatched ?
Iam very excited for my copy.
I hope there will be the whole trilogy published one day 😊

69Books-Illustrated
Nov 27, 2023, 5:57 am

Good news, the INKHEART Collectors Edition will be ready this Friday and so we will start couriering them early next week. I should have a few of them at the PBFA London Book Fair that we will be attending this coming Saturday, 2 Dec. I hope I get to meet some of you there:

London Christmas Book Fair
Holiday Inn London - Bloomsbury
Coram Street, London, WC1N 1HT
£2 entry 10am-4pm

70Xandian97
Dic 17, 2023, 12:22 pm

Finally picked up my copy of Inkheart today (mistakenly had it delivered to my old address, so had to go get it), and it is absolutely beautiful! Was a bit apprehensive about the Alcantara, but I'm liking it a lot more than I expected.

Definitely the most I've ever spent on a book, but worth it for one of my favourite stories - I just wish I had matching editions of Inkspell and Inkdeath!

So grateful they let me pay in installments too, and I'm glad to see they made it an option for The Starless Sea from the start, considering going for that now too!

71kdweber
Dic 17, 2023, 9:05 pm

>70 Xandian97: It’s interesting that Books Illustrated could sell a 450 page, letterpress printed, well illustrated, nicely bound and slipcased book for 295 GBP for the collector’s edition but couldn’t match The Starless Sea to The Night Circus (deluxe edition) before dropping letterpress printing. Of note, the standard edition of The Starless Sea (lowest of 4 levels) is only 95 GBP. The collector’s edition is still 295 GBP.

72Books-Illustrated
Dic 20, 2023, 6:31 am

>70 Xandian97: We are always very pleased to hear that books arrive safely, even if they take a little road trip! We love the deluxe edition too; and many people have commented that the book looks so much better than our photos. It has created a great response and additional sales.
We will continue to do our best with every book we publish as we love the creative aspect of this business.
Have a Merry Christmas, Mike

73Books-Illustrated
Dic 20, 2023, 6:33 am

>71 kdweber: Holding the price was something we felt was important. The Starless Sea is more expensive to produce from a materials point of view.

74kdweber
Dic 20, 2023, 7:21 pm

>73 Books-Illustrated: I get it, just wished you waited one more book before dumping letterpress. I’m fine with your 95 GBP editions being offset and in simpler bindings and I’ll probable buy some in the future. You probably made the right business decision and I wish your press nothing but the best. I’m a part of a small niche market and there are plenty of tempting books in that market.

75Alan_Wake
Editado: Dic 21, 2023, 2:33 am

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