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Kvinnans nedkomst por Elaine Morgan
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Kvinnans nedkomst (1972 original; edición 1972)

por Elaine Morgan

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This pioneering work, originally published in 1972, was the first to argue irrefutably the equal role of women in human evolution.
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Título:Kvinnans nedkomst
Autores:Elaine Morgan
Información:Stockholm : Forum, 1972 ;
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Etiquetas:Facklitteratur, Historia, Kvinnohistoria

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The Descent of Woman por Elaine Morgan (1972)

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A re-read of something read many years ago, and I've discovered during this read, the subject of a lot of controversy. The author based a lot of this book on the theory set forward around 1960 in an article in 'The New Scientist' by marine biologist, Alistair Hardy (her own book was published in the early 1970s). It seems she wrote to Desmond Morris, author of a popular work, 'The Naked Ape', which she had a lot of disagreements with, and asked why he had dismissed the theory in a page or so. He explained that it was actually based on Hardy's paper.

I won't go over the various aspects of humanity which the author says are unique to ourselves and which authors in the scientific community say are not (she had no scientific background, but instead hailed from the humanities). It's hard to know how much credit to give the book despite the website I found which rebuts all its claims and those of later books by herself and other authors. Having moved on to read a couple more of hers, she did modify her ideas somewhat: for example, accepting that locomotion on two legs came millions of years before some of the other developments that in this book were all supposed to result from an aquatic existence for an ancestor of humankind and to have developed all at the same time.

Also, it's clear that Hardy himself did not claim this ancestor became fully aquatic - which would have involved our legs atrophying as they did in dolphins and other sea-going mammals, rather than remaining the long 'primitive' legs of a primate which did not specialise in tree dwelling unlike chimpanzees etc. Instead, he said they would have spent five or so hours a day in water and the rest of the time roamed the shore to gather other foodstuffs etc (the author's follow-up publishes his article as an appendix).

One aspect of the book is the author's rallying cry against the male-centric nature of much of palaeontology at the time and this is of more interest. The style is popularist and irreverent, in contrast to her later, more academic sounding works. Altogether I would give it around 2.5 stars, rounded up to 3.
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  kitsune_reader | Nov 23, 2023 |
I was intrigued by the references to this book in Peter Dickinson's [A Bone From a Dry Sea]. While Dickinson's story only nibbled at the edges of the theories of Morgan's treatise, The Descent of Woman delves fully into a feminist interpretation of the evolutionary and cultural aspects of human evolution.
For my money, the science behind the author's premise was flimsy, perhaps even the source of unfounded speculation that wound its way into Morgan's narrative. Interpretations and theory in human evolution have sparked tremendous controversy, as different agencies favour their preferred view point. Using the biblical Genesis story does little to promote credibility for how the females actually lived. And therein lies a great flaw to a supposedly academic text.

One never 'proves' a theory and my reading of this book begs the question why were other interpretations of the evolution of humans not discussed? Those may counter the author's point of view, but there was nothing written to convince the reader that Morgan's ideas have superior merit. The attitudes expressed came across as an agenda to promote female equality, yet the ancient historical record is not of the quality to establish the life females lived on the basis of a societal culture. ( )
  SandyAMcPherson | Oct 2, 2023 |
You find very few amateur theorists on stellar nucleosynthesis or fluid dynamics or molecular biology. However, evolution is fair game for philosophers (Darwinian Fairytales) and seems to be especially attractive to screenwriters: (The Territorial Imperative and The Descent of Woman).

I’m not even considering the legions of Creationists and Intelligent Designers, who come from just about every field except evolutionary biology; the three examples cited above are people who accept organic evolution through natural selection, they just don’t understand it.


I suppose that’s because on the surface it seems so simple; but alas, sometimes the simplest things turn out to be the most complicated.


The particular amateur under consideration is Elaine Morgan; in The Descent of Woman she makes the classic mistake that nonscientists do when dealing with science: the assumption that scientific arguments are about logic and plausibility rather than evidence and testing. Some background:

Morgan’s first foray into evolutionary theory was The Aquatic Ape Hypothesis, which was the claim that there was a period in hominid evolution when our ancestors spent their time wading around the seashore. In her hands this explains everything about hominid evolution – bipedalism (for wading in the water to escape predators); hairlessness (for streamlining when swimming); and the missionary position (I won’t go into details but it has to do with sand getting into everything). This is all done with rhetoric; Morgan sets up straw men, over generalizes, begs the question, and does all the other logical tricks. And, of course, she proposes no way her hypothesis could be tested. Further, most of her arguments are focused against other evolution populizers, particularly Robert Ardrey and Desmond Morris. While I’m not a particular fan of Stephen Jay Gould, his comment that a lot of evolutionary psychology consists of “just so stories” should always be held in mind when contemplating a seemingly plausible hypothesis.


In The Descent of Woman the aquatic apes now get more developed and coupled to the evolution of hominid females. To be fair, there is one extremely valid point; a lot of popular evolutionary psychology focuses solely on male evolution – discussions of aggression and territoriality and sexual selection and hunting often assume the females were just patiently waiting in the cave for Og to come home with some newly evolved traits. That much of The Descent of Woman is perfectly valid; all gender and developmental stages of an organism – male, female, adult, young, sperm, egg – have to be adapted to their environment or nothing is going to work. That complaint, however, could be summarized in a paragraph or so without going into a whole volume.


Morgan takes on some of the feminists who have bought into the “demonic male” arguments (without, of course, offering any actual evidence that men are or are not more violent than women); she gets sidetracked on “equal pay for equal work; and her treatment of male/female relationship psychology hinges – without the slightest hint of a contrary opinion – on the assumption that all the men and women in the world are upper-class Western Europeans. This last is especially ironic because of her complaint that anthropologists ignore the women when studying primitive cultures.


Still, as befits a screenwriter, her prose is light and breezy and quite readable. The book’s a little out of date now; first published in 1972 the edition I read has a 1985 epilogue. Although it’s good to be reminded that there’s a legitimate concern about woman’s place in evolutionary theorizing, the main value of the book is as test of the reader’s ability to spot logical fallacies and errors of fact. ( )
2 vota setnahkt | Dec 21, 2017 |
One of the most important books I ever read. ( )
  ReneeGKC | Aug 5, 2015 |
Groundbreaking as the first book which pointed out that human evolution might well be influenced by how hominid females dealt with challenges. Some of the ideas proposed are a bit fantastic, but Morgan did get evolutionary scientists to acknowledge that how women survived and evolved might just be at least as important as the contribution of men. ( )
  BruceCoulson | Mar 26, 2014 |
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