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La guerra interminable (1974)

por Joe Haldeman

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Series: Forever War (1)

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8,240220789 (4.03)2 / 327
Private William Mandella is a hero in spite of himself -- a reluctant conscript drafted into an elite military unit, and propelled through space and time to fight in a distant thousand-year conflict. He never wanted to go to war, but the leaders on Earth have drawn a line in the interstellar sand -- despite the fact that their fierce alien enemy is unknowable, unconquerable, and very far away. So Mandella will perform his duties without rancor and even rise up through the military's ranks . . . if he survives. But the true test of his mettle will come when he returns to Earth. Because of the time dilation caused by space travel the loyal soldier is aging months, while his home planet is aging centuries -- and the difference will prove the saying: you never can go home.… (más)
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  1. 204
    Tropas del espacio por Robert A. Heinlein (infiniteletters, goodiegoodie)
  2. 80
    La Vieja guardia por John Scalzi (JulesJones)
    JulesJones: Two books which examine in different ways what happens to the recruits in an interstellar war who by the very nature of their service can never go back to their home culture.
  3. 10
    Armor por John Steakley (amysisson, RASinfo)
    RASinfo: Perfect read for the story and ideas of the same theme.
  4. 10
    The Ethos Effect por L. E. Modesitt, Jr. (thejazzmonger)
    thejazzmonger: Good characters and a story with intelligence and action. It makes you think, like every Haldeman book does.
  5. 22
    Paz Interminable por Joe Haldeman (sturlington)
    sturlington: Forever Peace is a thematic sequel to The Forever War.
  6. 01
    Cántico a San Leibowitz por Walter M. Miller Jr. (sturlington)
  7. 01
    The Healer's War por Elizabeth Ann Scarborough (LamontCranston)
    LamontCranston: The Forever War was inspired by Haldemans experiences in Vietnam, Scarborough writes about her experiences in Vietnam directly.
  8. 14
    Dauntless por Jack Campbell (amysisson)
    amysisson: First in a series of thoughtful military SF with great FTL tactical details.
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Read when I was in High School. I still think about even to this day (25 years later) ( )
  KrakenTamer | Oct 23, 2021 |
Good, well written, intelligent science fiction, albeit with paper-thin characters and little actual human emotion. Written by a Vietnam vet in 1974, it is a thinly veiled satire on Vietnam, and war in general. ( )
  usuallee | Oct 7, 2021 |
With the anniversary of D-Day being just a few days ago, this was timely reading. Joe Haldeman’s book, “The Forever War” is engaging, well-written, and meaningful, originally published in 1974. It was a Hugo and Nebula winner. I read an edition published in 2010 which Haldeman identified as the ‘definitive edition’. I read the first edition back in college in the mid-eighties. While I remember greatly enjoying the book in college, this re-read was much more impactful. I don’t know if that is due to my naivety back then, or the changes in editions.

The story is written in first-person from the perspective of Private William Mandella. Haldeman effectively pulls from his personal experiences from Viet Nam. He tells a very readable story and successfully conveys several themes:
- Solders in wartime, often return disconnected from their personal relationships and have challenges in reconnecting with family and friends.
- Solders are also often faced with ‘culture shock’, losing touch with changes in society and face difficulty integrating into everyday life after living through war’s horrors.
- Countries and economies can become dependant on war, limiting incentives to find peaceful solution.
- War can escalate, losing touch with its original objectives. Certainly, for many solders, after being caught up in a life and death struggle and attempting to protect and save their fellow soldiers, are often left with a void, when considering, “what was it all for?”

Haldeman uses science fiction including time dilation to magnify these themes. He also creatively tells of some drastic culture shifts which the MC faces when returning from duty. This book is a masterpiece, both as a straight-up science fiction story, but also as an allegory for the horrors and hopelessness of war. ( )
  Kevin_A_Kuhn | Aug 23, 2021 |
The last chapter just seals the deal, comes from left field and makes your heart drop. That book was more impacting than I expected it to be even ten pages before the end. Nausea and then this poignant heart stab. There are some reflections on the nature of leadership that are quite good and could be further teased out on a rainy day too, about the weird feeling of empathy and responsibility, the feeling of displacement or not belonging in the role and the need to also embrace it and be the bad guy sometimes. Basically, Forever War as good as everyone says it is.
  ahovde01 | Aug 13, 2021 |
The concept of this novel is great. But the book's politics are dated: it was written during the seventies and the future world (including our own times) is a pastiche of every right wing lunatic fears. ( )
  Pindarix | Jul 15, 2021 |
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I got to re-reading it last night (for the first time in nearly 20 years) and couldn't put it down.
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Joe Haldemanautor principaltodas las edicionescalculado
Adams, MarcArtista de la Cubiertaautor secundarioalgunas edicionesconfirmado
Craig, IanArtista de la Cubiertaautor secundarioalgunas edicionesconfirmado
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Hamilton, Peter F.Introducciónautor secundarioalgunas edicionesconfirmado
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Scalzi, JohnPrefacioautor secundarioalgunas edicionesconfirmado
Targete, Jean PierreArtista de la Cubiertaautor secundarioalgunas edicionesconfirmado
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Locus ( [1976] | Novel | 1976)
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Relativity propped it up, at least gave it the illusion of being there...the way all reality becomes illusory and observer-oriented when you study general relativity. Or Buddhism. Or get drafted.
I feel asleep and dreamed that I was a machine, mimicking the functions of life, creaking and clanking my clumsy way through a world, people too polite to say anything but giggling behind my back, and the little man who sat inside my head pulling the levers and clutches and watching the dials, he was hopelessly mad and storing up hurts for the day--
"One cannot make command decisions simply by assessing the tactical situation and going ahead with whatever course of action will do the most harm to the enemy with a minimum of death and damage to your own men and materiel. Modern warfare has become very complex, especially during the last century. Wars are won not by a simple series of battles won, but by a complex interrelationship among military victory, economic pressures, logistic maneuvering, access to the enemy's information, political postures--dozens, literally dozens of factors."
The most important fact about the war to most people was that if it ended suddenly, Earth's economy would collapse.
Heaven was a lovely, unspoiled Earth-like world; what Earth might have been if men had treated her with compassion instead of lust.
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Private William Mandella is a hero in spite of himself -- a reluctant conscript drafted into an elite military unit, and propelled through space and time to fight in a distant thousand-year conflict. He never wanted to go to war, but the leaders on Earth have drawn a line in the interstellar sand -- despite the fact that their fierce alien enemy is unknowable, unconquerable, and very far away. So Mandella will perform his duties without rancor and even rise up through the military's ranks . . . if he survives. But the true test of his mettle will come when he returns to Earth. Because of the time dilation caused by space travel the loyal soldier is aging months, while his home planet is aging centuries -- and the difference will prove the saying: you never can go home.

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La guerra interminable, galardonada con los premios Nebula, Hugo y Locus, es la más famosa de las novelas de Joe Haldeman, y a menudo se ha interpretado como una réplica a la ideología subyacente en Tropas del Espacio de Robert A. Heinlein. En ella aborda dos de los grandes temas de la literatura de todos los tiempos, la guerra y el amor, pero es sobre todo por la perfecta creación de personajesy por el tratamiento dado a sus motivaciones por lo que esta novela ha gozado de un sostenido éxito. El protagonista, Mandella, es posíblemente uno de los antihéroes más inolvidables que jamás haya creado Haldeman, y la exposición de sus relaciones con los otros personajes tiene momentos muy brillantes. Una gran novela que nadie debería perderse.
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