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La guerra interminable (1974)

por Joe Haldeman

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Series: Forever War (1)

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8,100218788 (4.03)2 / 326
Private William Mandella is a hero in spite of himself -- a reluctant conscript drafted into an elite military unit, and propelled through space and time to fight in a distant thousand-year conflict. He never wanted to go to war, but the leaders on Earth have drawn a line in the interstellar sand -- despite the fact that their fierce alien enemy is unknowable, unconquerable, and very far away. So Mandella will perform his duties without rancor and even rise up through the military's ranks . . . if he survives. But the true test of his mettle will come when he returns to Earth. Because of the time dilation caused by space travel the loyal soldier is aging months, while his home planet is aging centuries -- and the difference will prove the saying: you never can go home.… (más)
Añadido recientemente porRandulf, ejmw, erniebornheimer, livy3195, biblioteca privada, catchu, drnaturalist, stephrenology, Chimista, EvFire
  1. 204
    Tropas del espacio por Robert A. Heinlein (infiniteletters, goodiegoodie)
  2. 80
    La Vieja guardia por John Scalzi (JulesJones)
    JulesJones: Two books which examine in different ways what happens to the recruits in an interstellar war who by the very nature of their service can never go back to their home culture.
  3. 10
    Armor por John Steakley (amysisson, RASinfo)
    RASinfo: Perfect read for the story and ideas of the same theme.
  4. 10
    The Ethos Effect por Jr. L. E. Modesitt (thejazzmonger)
    thejazzmonger: Good characters and a story with intelligence and action. It makes you think, like every Haldeman book does.
  5. 22
    Paz Interminable por Joe Haldeman (sturlington)
    sturlington: Forever Peace is a thematic sequel to The Forever War.
  6. 01
    Cántico a San Leibowitz por Walter M. Miller Jr. (sturlington)
  7. 01
    The Healer's War por Elizabeth Ann Scarborough (LamontCranston)
    LamontCranston: The Forever War was inspired by Haldemans experiences in Vietnam, Scarborough writes about her experiences in Vietnam directly.
  8. 14
    Dauntless por Jack Campbell (amysisson)
    amysisson: First in a series of thoughtful military SF with great FTL tactical details.
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The concept of this novel is great. But the book's politics are dated: it was written during the seventies and the future world (including our own times) is a pastiche of every right wing lunatic fears. ( )
  Pindarix | Jul 15, 2021 |
I read this at uni for a science fiction class. It got me back into reading while in college. I donated it later to another avid reader. Book 1 in The Forever War Series.

The story follows a physics student named Will who is conscripted into the military on Earth to fight against an enemy named the Taurans. Will and his unit travel through space to fight and return to Earth after two years - to an extremely different home planet. This is military science fiction and has parallels to Haldeman's personal experiences during the Vietnam War.

The story is one of military service and how those service personnel may find themselves alienated not only when deployed but also when they return home. It shows how service personnel must adjust to the unknowns upon their return and how the world reacts to them after they've come back. Because this is closely associated with concepts involving war and actions committed during combat, readers may find it a little tough to read. The story is excellent and well developed.

The characters are believable and yet there's a couple who you may find unlikeable; that's okay too. Will is a wide-eyed kid before going to war with aspirations and goals for his time even if he was conscripted but when he gets back to Earth to discover how time really works in space, he is left adrift. Haldeman describes this alienation well.

The writing is entirely accessible to readers though the content may be tough. There is enough description in the action to understand what Will and others are doing and seeing. In the quiet moments, the reader can feel what the characters are feeling.

*All thoughts and opinions are my own.* ( )
  The_Literary_Jedi | Jun 11, 2021 |
A military science fiction novel about one man's participation in a centuries-long war with an alien civilization.

The plot follows William Mandella as he rises through the ranks from private to major in Earth's "forever war" with the mysterious Tauran aliens. Due to the relativistic effects of near-light-speed travel, each time he returns years or even centuries have passed on Earth, leaving the protagonist struggling to cope with "normal" society. The author's main focus is on the dehumanizing effects of army culture, the senselessness and unpredictability of war, and the feelings of estrangement that veterans experience when returning to civilian life.

This book has been described as a response to Starship Troopers by Robert Heinlein, as Haldeman uses similar space opera tropes, but subverts them in order to critique military culture, propaganda, and glorification of warfare. In that respect, it's comparable to Paul Verhoeven's 1997 film adaptation of Heinlein's novel.

This book is considered a classic of science fiction, and I think rightly so. Still, the clunky writing and dated treatment of sexuality may turn off some readers. Yet despite its flaws, I found it a fairly enjoyable read and an interesting look into the culture and ideas of the 70s. ( )
  gcthomas | May 19, 2021 |
A classic science fiction novel. ( )
  illmunkeys | Apr 22, 2021 |
Very good. Alien war. Interesting thoughts on war. ( )
  Gretchen5 | Feb 27, 2021 |
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I got to re-reading it last night (for the first time in nearly 20 years) and couldn't put it down.
añadido por lampbane | editarBoing Boing, Cory Doctorow (Mar 30, 2003)
 

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Haldeman, JoeAutorautor principaltodas las edicionesconfirmado
Adams, MarcArtista de la Cubiertaautor secundarioalgunas edicionesconfirmado
Craig, IanArtista de la Cubiertaautor secundarioalgunas edicionesconfirmado
Dalton, BrendonDiseñador de cubiertaautor secundarioalgunas edicionesconfirmado
Hamilton, Peter F.Introducciónautor secundarioalgunas edicionesconfirmado
Moore, ChrisArtista de la Cubiertaautor secundarioalgunas edicionesconfirmado
Reß-Bohusch, BirgitTraductorautor secundarioalgunas edicionesconfirmado
Roberts, AdamIntroducciónautor secundarioalgunas edicionesconfirmado
Scalzi, JohnPrefacioautor secundarioalgunas edicionesconfirmado
Targete, Jean PierreArtista de la Cubiertaautor secundarioalgunas edicionesconfirmado
Tikulin, TomislavArtista de la Cubiertaautor secundarioalgunas edicionesconfirmado
Tinkleman, MurrayArtista de la Cubiertaautor secundarioalgunas edicionesconfirmado
Vallejo, DorianArtista de la Cubiertaautor secundarioalgunas edicionesconfirmado
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Relativity propped it up, at least gave it the illusion of being there...the way all reality becomes illusory and observer-oriented when you study general relativity. Or Buddhism. Or get drafted.
I feel asleep and dreamed that I was a machine, mimicking the functions of life, creaking and clanking my clumsy way through a world, people too polite to say anything but giggling behind my back, and the little man who sat inside my head pulling the levers and clutches and watching the dials, he was hopelessly mad and storing up hurts for the day--
"One cannot make command decisions simply by assessing the tactical situation and going ahead with whatever course of action will do the most harm to the enemy with a minimum of death and damage to your own men and materiel. Modern warfare has become very complex, especially during the last century. Wars are won not by a simple series of battles won, but by a complex interrelationship among military victory, economic pressures, logistic maneuvering, access to the enemy's information, political postures--dozens, literally dozens of factors."
The most important fact about the war to most people was that if it ended suddenly, Earth's economy would collapse.
Heaven was a lovely, unspoiled Earth-like world; what Earth might have been if men had treated her with compassion instead of lust.
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Private William Mandella is a hero in spite of himself -- a reluctant conscript drafted into an elite military unit, and propelled through space and time to fight in a distant thousand-year conflict. He never wanted to go to war, but the leaders on Earth have drawn a line in the interstellar sand -- despite the fact that their fierce alien enemy is unknowable, unconquerable, and very far away. So Mandella will perform his duties without rancor and even rise up through the military's ranks . . . if he survives. But the true test of his mettle will come when he returns to Earth. Because of the time dilation caused by space travel the loyal soldier is aging months, while his home planet is aging centuries -- and the difference will prove the saying: you never can go home.

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La guerra interminable, galardonada con los premios Nebula, Hugo y Locus, es la más famosa de las novelas de Joe Haldeman, y a menudo se ha interpretado como una réplica a la ideología subyacente en Tropas del Espacio de Robert A. Heinlein. En ella aborda dos de los grandes temas de la literatura de todos los tiempos, la guerra y el amor, pero es sobre todo por la perfecta creación de personajesy por el tratamiento dado a sus motivaciones por lo que esta novela ha gozado de un sostenido éxito. El protagonista, Mandella, es posíblemente uno de los antihéroes más inolvidables que jamás haya creado Haldeman, y la exposición de sus relaciones con los otros personajes tiene momentos muy brillantes. Una gran novela que nadie debería perderse.
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