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The philosopher's dog (2002 original; edición 2002)

por Raimond Gaita (Autor)

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In this lyrical and beautifully written book, Raimond Gaita tells inspirational, poignant, sometimes funny but never sentimental stories of the dogs, cats and cockatoos that lived and died within his own family. The Philosopher's Dogis above all a book about our creatureliness and its place in the understanding of our humanity.… (más)
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Título:The philosopher's dog
Autores:Raimond Gaita (Autor)
Información:Melbourne: The Text Publishing Company (2002)
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Etiquetas:English Literature, Australian Literature, Autographed, Stories, Essays, Literary Criticism, Philosophy, Austalia, Ethics

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I very much enjoyed this book, though it was slow going. It's quiet dense in ideas, and much more philiosophy than anecdote. I find myself musing over Gaita's notions, though, and thinking that we have moved to a different place in our attitudes towards animals since this book was written. I find myself not entirely convinced by the arguments put forward here, but then, I am not a philosopher.

I think I will dive into this book in the future for thinking material, especially as I continue to write my own fictional animals, to help me consider their outlook and position in life as we know it. Definitely a keeper! ( )
  ClareRhoden | Nov 4, 2017 |
I'm not quite sure how I feel about this book. I liked how thoughtful it was and how it seemed torn between trying to be objective and what we actually experience in the beginning. The stories were nice, but simply not enough, and after a while he starts repeating himself. I agree with the final conclusion, but I think it could have taken a lot less long to come up with it. And perhaps could have had some more depth. The intent was good and after reading it I'm pretty sure I'd probably like the author, as a person. But that's not what you read this kind of book for. It was just a little too slow and the final conclusion could have been made after half this book already. ( )
  Merinde | Mar 31, 2013 |
To gain some idea of what this book is like, I suggest reading the two epigraphs. One is a somewhat turgid paragraph by Cora Diamond saying, well, I'm not sure what she is saying. The other is a charming line from the Kato Indian creation story: “God went forth to create the world, and he took his dog with him.”

Gaita himself says that he is trying to combine philosophy, without making it popular, and storytelling. He anticipates that the reader will find some of the philosophy difficult; that is certainly true in my case. I generally don't have a great deal of use for philosophy, and I don't know if I would have checked this out if I had read the introduction first. He seems to assume a certain basic level of knowledge of philosophy. He has deliberately ignored empirical studies.

The pages in which he discusses Wittgenstein (pp. 60-64) could have been blank for all I got out of them after three readings. I have no idea why the passage that Gaita quotes is so revolutionary. It would have helped if it had been clear whether Wittgenstein and Gaita are discussing people. animals, or both. Four readings have not enabled me to make any sense of the sentence; “Think of us as inflected, so to speak, in interacting responses to the forms of the living body's expressiveness.” Perhaps it means that we are naturally inclined to read and respond to body language, but I wouldn't count on it.

His method of argument is to assert what he believes, insist that all right-thinking people agree, and denigrate anyone who disagrees, as in this example (p.205): “People can argue about where to draw the line in a situation like that, but I know of no one whose dog would be treated as the equal to a seriously sick infant. If someone did treat their dog like that I would not think of them as a pioneer of ethical thought, but as someone whose sentimentality made them wicked.” Not just wrong, but wicked. He doesn't bother to make a logical case for his idiosyncratic preferences and I can't see any overarching, guiding principles. As a result, even when I agree with him, I don't think that he has offered some profound insight or some persuasive language that reinforces the point of view.

One of my problems with philosophy is that it is so often divorced from reality. Gaita writes at some length about the rituals surrounding death, who they are for, and if they are appropriate at the death of an animal. He seems to utterly miss the the point that probably most human beings who ever lived have believed in an afterlife, and that the obsequies can affect that afterlife, or placate the now dangerous spirit of the dead, or persuade them to shower benefits upon the living. This is in addition to their value as displays of wealth and laudable piety. These sorts of things are illustrated at the end of Buchi Emecheta's The Joys of Motherhood. Nnu Ego's son, who has been in America for a number of years and has neglected his mother, goes into debt to give her a lavish funeral that wins him the praise of the friends and family. They, in turn, expect that Nnu Ego, pleased with such a pious son (for what could one want more than a lavish funeral?) will grant children to her living relatives. In addition, ritual can tell people what is appropriate at a time when they are stressed and confused, and helps them through the mourning process. Some people do give their pets funerals, although not usually as elaborate as human funerals, out of a need for ritual to help them let go.

The reader who doesn't enjoy the philosophy may enjoy the animal stories, but frankly, there are plenty of those other places, so I don't think that those alone make the book worth reading ( )
  PuddinTame | Feb 26, 2012 |
While Raimond Gaita has an engaging enough style of writing, this book was a bit of a disappointment to me. I only got a C+ in Intro to Philosophy in college 40-some years ago, so a lot of his references to Descarte, Wittgenstein and Sorenson were just way over my head. I mean I could sorta follow his reasoning when he went off on these tangents, but I didn't really find it all that interesting, so I skimmed over those parts. And I'm glad I did, because when he did talk about his dogs and other pets, or about other books featuring dogs, I found his text very interesting. Was most pleased to see him cite J.M. Coetzee and his novel, Disgrace, which is a favorite of mine. And when he writes about his father, it gets even more interesting. Wish I could snag a copy of Gaita's memoir about his dad: Romulus, My Father. Unfortunately it seems to be out of print and only available used from Australia. I was made aware of The Philosopher's Dog by a brief reference to Gaita in Ted Kerasote's bestseller, Merle's Door. Although there's some rather tough slogging from the philosopher's end of things here, this is a book worth reading. - Tim Bazzett, author of the ReedCityBoy trilogy ( )
  TimBazzett | May 23, 2009 |
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The difference between human beings and animals is not to be discovered by studies of Washoe or the activities of dolphins. It is not the sort of study or ethology or evolutionary theory that is going to tell us the difference between us and animals: the difference is, as I have suggested, a central concept for human life and is more an object of contemplation than observation (though that might be misunderstood; I am not suggesting that it is a matter of intuition). One source of confusion here is that we fail to distinguish between "the difference between animals and people" and "the differences between animals and people"; the same sort of confusion occurs in discussions of the relationship of men and women. I both cases, epople appeal to scientific evidence to show that 'the difference" is not as deep as we think; but all that such evidence can show, or show directly, is that the differences are less sharp than we think. In the case of the difference between animals and people, it is clear that we form the idea of this difference, create the concept of the difference, knowing perfectly well the overwhelmingly obvious similarities.

-- Cora Diamond
God went forth to create the world,
and he took his dog with him

-- Kato Indian creation story
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In this lyrical and beautifully written book, Raimond Gaita tells inspirational, poignant, sometimes funny but never sentimental stories of the dogs, cats and cockatoos that lived and died within his own family. The Philosopher's Dogis above all a book about our creatureliness and its place in the understanding of our humanity.

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