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The Forgetting River: A Modern Tale of Survival, Identity, and the Inquisition

por Doreen Carvajal

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Traces the author's research into her family story after discovering that her ancestors were forced to renounce their Jewish faith in Inquisition-era Spain, describing her visit to the centuries-old Andalusian town of Arcos de la Frontera, where modern locals remain haunted by memories of past tragedies.… (más)
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I was not I impressed by this Early Reviewers book. I guess it's kind of a family history memoir. The author suspects that her family is descended from conversos, Spanish Jews who converted to Catholicism to escape persecution during the Inquisition. The problem with the book is that Carvajal meanders through travels and side stories, sometimes focusing on her genealogy research and sometimes exploring a side story of a person she runs across or tradition that interest her. Sometimes I was interested too, and sometimes I wasn't. The book lacks focus and depth. ( )
1 vota japaul22 | Oct 24, 2012 |
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I marked a few passages, and made a few notes in the margins of the ARC of this book as I read it, but when it came to drawing my thoughts together I found there was not all that much to say about The Forgetting River. It is ostensibly the story of one woman’s search for evidence that her ancestors were Sephardic Jews who converted to Christianity to avoid expulsion or death during the Spanish Inquisition. I think the problem is there wasn’t enough material here for a book based on that search. After all, before she began it in earnest, Doreen Carvajal already knew the answer to the fundamental question: a cousin had told her definitively that her family’s origins were “sefarditas”. Although Carvajal actually moved temporarily to a small town in Spain where ancient records of the Inquisition reposed, her research, or at least her reporting of it here, seemed to lack focus. What, exactly, was she looking for? Historical evidence? A spiritual regeneration? A substitute for the rituals of Catholicism that had stopped working for her years ago? What story did she mean to tell…that of her quest for the truth about her ancestry? The history of the conversos who were forced to practice their own religion in secret and continued to hide their true identities no matter where they emigrated until they had ‘protected their secrets so zealously that they lost them'? Her own spiritual odyssey? Without resolving that issue for herself, it seemed that Ms. Carvajal was a victim of her own journalistic instincts in that she gathered so much material that she didn’t know what to leave out. The Christian inquisitions went on for centuries, and the so-called Spanish Inquisition initiated by the "enlightened" monarchs who sent Cristobal Colon out to find the New World was only one part of that larger Catholic crusade against heresy, apostasy and witchcraft. Even at that, the Tribunal of the Holy Office of the Inquisition in Spain was not formally disbanded until the 19th century, and the Alhambra Decree, which expelled the Jews from Spain in 1492 was not formally rescinded until 1968. I can appreciate the difficulty of attempting to write about any one aspect of that phenomenon without nodding to its long and torture-filled history. It is a subject fraught with emotion, guilt, horror and controversy, which is best taken in small, manageable bits. But like The Forgetting River of her title, I fear Doreen Carvajal meandered too far and wide, with no clear destination in mind, resulting in a book that should have been a shorter and better organized personal memoir, or a longer and better organized scholarly work. For a more engaging treatment of the search for Jewish identity, I recommend Paul Cowan’s An Orphan in History. And although it also suffers from some of the same overabundance of historical fact in a personal narrative, The Mezuzah in the Madonna’s Foot is a better read on the subject of conversos, Marranos and Crypto-Jews. ( )
3 vota laytonwoman3rd | Sep 30, 2012 |
Well, this was a disappointing read on a variety of levels, and I confess I only skimmed it. I have long been interested in the so-called "crypto-Jews," people in the US southwest, and also elsewhere, who have been raised as Catholics but who have "family traditions" that are Jewish customs; these are people descended from conversos, Jews who ostensibly converted to Catholicism because of the Spanish Inquisition and its aftermath but who secretly retained their Jewish faith. In this book, Carvajal, whose family came to the US from Costa Rica, comes to believe her family has converso, and therefore Jewish, roots, and tries to explore this and find out if it's true.

Alas, the book is mostly the story of her thoughts and the people she talks to as she moves her family from France to a little town in Andalusia. Every now and then, she discusses conversos, the history of the Inquisition, symbolism in art, and genetic testing to determine family origins -- but when she does, I wish she cited sources. She is a journalist by profession, and writes in a breezy style, but there are places where the information is crying out for footnotes or endnotes so the reader can have a sense of where it comes from. And, although this book is partly about Carvajal, the reader, or this one anyway, doesn't get a real sense of her, or of the people she describes. Additonally, it definitely could have used an editor -- Carvajal repeats the same information in different parts of the book in several places..

So, this book, partly the story of her exploration, partly a portrait of a little Spanish town, partly a little bit of history, didn't work for me.
2 vota rebeccanyc | Sep 29, 2012 |
I’ve been reading a wide variety of books on my vacation: a book on the etymology of flower names, very appropriate since every day has its gardening component; a YA book on friendship; a poetic book on the history of a river and The Forgetting River: A Modern Tale of Survival, Identity, and the Inquisition by Doreen Carvajal. I’ve always had a passing interest on Conversos, those Jews during the Inquisition who outwardly adopted Catholicism while secretly practicing their faith. There appear articles every now and then about people, including priests, who uncover their unknown Jewish pasts.

Unlike the people in the articles, Carvajal, a New York Times reporter, seemed to know that her ancestors were Jewish but had a hard time proving it. Carvajal recounts her efforts to determine whether her ancestors, of Spanish descent who moved to Cuba, Costa Rica, and the United States, were indeed Conversos. These efforts included obtaining family histories, DNA testing, looking at Inquisition records and talking to everyone who might be able to help.

While the biological result was inconclusive, Carvajal’s spiritual result seems to lie in the Jewish direction. Along her journey, Carvajal recounts the torture perpetrated on one human by another because of religion, the long lasting impacts in Spain (some reaching into the twentieth century) of the Inquisition, her feelings towards the possibility of being Jewish having been brought up Catholic and her thoughts about what this might mean to her teenage daughter.

In the books and articles I have read, it seems that even in the twentieth century, there is some unexplained ritual practiced by Conversos that has its root in Judaiism and it is this, more than anything, that finally convinces Carvajal of her religious ancestry.

If you are looking for a satisfying conclusion to a spiritual search, The Forgetting River may not be your cup of tea. If you enjoy learning little tidbits of history or the historical root of some contemporary saying or action, The Forgetting River should interest you. Carvajal’s writing style is easy to read. Her journey was long and frustrating.

Two books of note on the subject: Incantation by Alice Hoffman is a personal favorite of mine. It is a wonderful, poetic book about Jews during the Inquisition and is in my personal library. Blood Secret by Kathryn Lasky, is mentioned in The Forgetting River as a book Carvajal gave to her daughter, talks about a young girl who discovers her family’s secret past. Both books are worth reading. ( )
  EdGoldberg | Sep 11, 2012 |
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Descended from Spanish colonials, Doreen Carvajal is convinced that her ancestors may have been conversos-- Spanish Jews forced into hiding during the Inquisition. To research her past she takes up residence in a small Andalusian town. Carvajal finds that even hundreds of hears later the issue of conversos is met with silence. Signs of Jewish communities have been hidden, and many are unwilling to talk about Spain's troubled past. Research has shown that Spain has unusually high levels of anti-Semitism. It has also shown that a significant portion of the population has converso ancestors. Spain's relationship with its Inquisition and its larger history of religious persecution is certainly an interesting one.

Carvajal writes beautifully about her Spanish town, its residents, and its customs. She is a strong believer in fate, in things happening for larger cosmic reasons, and genetic memory. Carvajal believes that the sense of belonging she feels in Andalusia is the result of awakening genetic impulses, long buried by the Carvajal family's colonial settlement in the Americas. She discovers all sorts of potential hidden messages in art and architecture, secret acts of resistance on the part of conversos. Some of these conclusions are more tenuous than others. I must admit that I have less of a belief in fate and genetic memory than the author, so I think I was a bit more skeptical of some assumptions. Still, the book is a pleasure to read. The subject matter is engaging, and the descriptions are beautiful.

I realize that this was not written as an academic text, but there were significant points at which I wanted more scholarly apparatus. I wanted to know what existing research and literature have to say. I wanted footnotes that I could dig into. There were things discussed generally that I wished were cited, so I could find out their origin. I suspect Carvajal was required to leave the scholarly heavy lifting out of the book by her publisher. I believe that was a mistake. That framework would have added tremendously to this book. ( )
  lahochstetler | Sep 4, 2012 |
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In the aftermath of 9/11, Paris-based New York Times journalist Carvajal began to experience "a strange yearning for something indefinable-a sense of refuge, of belonging." She also wanted to "fill in the deep, black holes" of memory that persisted in her Catholic family's history. Eventually, the author moved to Arcos de la Frontera, a town located in the same Spanish province where her father's family had originated. From this vantage point, she began to explore the fascinating, fraught history of the Sephardic Jews, who had been forced to become Catholic converts or exiles. She learned about the double lives of many of the conversos and the secret, often ingenious ways they developed to pay tribute to their true heritage. Carvajal also began to understand the ways in which Judaism had infused such time-honored and apparently Catholic traditions as the saeta, a song performed during Holy Week to pay homage to life-sized images of Christ or the Virgin Mary. Her quest for knowledge about los sefarditas soon evolved alongside a parallel quest for information about her family's past. Dissatisfied with the vague responses she received from relatives about family history, she pursued DNA testing, which offered tantalizing hints rather than conclusive answers to her questions. Carvajal finally found the "defining clue that resolved all doubts." As was the case with so much else they and other Sephardic Jews had left behind, the answers, though encrypted, were in plain sight, awaiting eyes that could decipher the truth.

A mesmerizing journey through time, across cultures and into one woman's rich personal history.
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"In The Forgetting River: A Modern Tale of Survival, Identity, and the Inquisition, journalist Doreen Carvajal, American born and Catholic raised, travels to Spain to investigate ancestors who might have been conversos, Jews forced in Inquisition-era Spain to convert to Christianity"
 
"In this compelling mix of memoir and reporting, a journalist travels thousands of miles, pores through centuries-old documents, and uses DNA evidence to discover the truth about her heritage."
 
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Traces the author's research into her family story after discovering that her ancestors were forced to renounce their Jewish faith in Inquisition-era Spain, describing her visit to the centuries-old Andalusian town of Arcos de la Frontera, where modern locals remain haunted by memories of past tragedies.

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