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1bakabaka84
Thought I would try and liven up the group a little
Rules are simple
1. Make a post about any obscure/lesser known mythological gods, monsters, persons ect. that you have learned about (or better yet search for some in your favorite mythology tradition and share them with the rest of us).
2. Try to stay away from well known beings (i.e. Athena, Shiva, gryphon's, hydras ect.) unless their is some specific characteristic that differs from the standard version/description.
3. Goal is not to see who can find the most obscure thing but to have fun and hopefully get people interested in mythology they might have over looked.
Rules are simple
1. Make a post about any obscure/lesser known mythological gods, monsters, persons ect. that you have learned about (or better yet search for some in your favorite mythology tradition and share them with the rest of us).
2. Try to stay away from well known beings (i.e. Athena, Shiva, gryphon's, hydras ect.) unless their is some specific characteristic that differs from the standard version/description.
3. Goal is not to see who can find the most obscure thing but to have fun and hopefully get people interested in mythology they might have over looked.
2bakabaka84
I will start off with one of my favorite lesser known (at least probably in the western world) goddesses.
Dewi Sri
Pre-Hindu and Pre-Islamic Javanese goddess of rice and fertility. She also is thought to have dominion over the Moon and the underworld. She was thought to have some control over prosperity and famine when it comes to agriculture especially rice which is a staple of Java and through this she has some dominion over life and death.
She is also often associated with Rice Paddy Snake
Most of the myths that she is in have to do with the origins of rice as well as other agricultural products. In one myth she is born a princess but is poisoned and from her grave sprang different plants coming from different parts of her body. Most also include her brother Sedana.
How I first learned about Dewi Sri was during my Southeast Asian History class when we were going over Java mythology and later found more information when I was doing a wiki search for information on another Javanese mythological creature that was used in the game Persona 3
Dewi Sri
Pre-Hindu and Pre-Islamic Javanese goddess of rice and fertility. She also is thought to have dominion over the Moon and the underworld. She was thought to have some control over prosperity and famine when it comes to agriculture especially rice which is a staple of Java and through this she has some dominion over life and death.
She is also often associated with Rice Paddy Snake
Most of the myths that she is in have to do with the origins of rice as well as other agricultural products. In one myth she is born a princess but is poisoned and from her grave sprang different plants coming from different parts of her body. Most also include her brother Sedana.
How I first learned about Dewi Sri was during my Southeast Asian History class when we were going over Java mythology and later found more information when I was doing a wiki search for information on another Javanese mythological creature that was used in the game Persona 3
3Cynara
(Off the top of my head)
Meskhenet
An ancient Egyptian goddess of childbirth who is a personified birthing brick.
Egyptian women apparently squatted on bricks to raise them off the ground during labour - I suppose it gave the midwife more room to catch the baby on the way out. I remember that being 'on the bricks' was a term for giving birth, and I think there are a couple of artistic representations, either in divine contexts (Hatshepsut's mammesium at Karnak would be one of the first places I'd look) or maybe in representations of peasants.
She has both a human appearance (a woman with a stylised cow uterus on her head), and another form - a birthing brick with a little human head on one side. I distinctly remember seeing her in that form in a couple of Weighing of the Heart scenes from New Kingdom Books of the Dead.
Wikipedia has good images:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meskhenet
Meskhenet
An ancient Egyptian goddess of childbirth who is a personified birthing brick.
Egyptian women apparently squatted on bricks to raise them off the ground during labour - I suppose it gave the midwife more room to catch the baby on the way out. I remember that being 'on the bricks' was a term for giving birth, and I think there are a couple of artistic representations, either in divine contexts (Hatshepsut's mammesium at Karnak would be one of the first places I'd look) or maybe in representations of peasants.
She has both a human appearance (a woman with a stylised cow uterus on her head), and another form - a birthing brick with a little human head on one side. I distinctly remember seeing her in that form in a couple of Weighing of the Heart scenes from New Kingdom Books of the Dead.
Wikipedia has good images:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meskhenet
5MarysGirl
I don't think so, Cynara. I check back daily with this group and there's rarely anything new. Of course, I take my share of the responsibility, as a member, for not starting anything. I do comment when I have something to add!
6aolster
Not dead... just a toughie for those of us whose memories may not be operating at peak (pique???) efficiency.
There are images tantalizingly trying to materialize at the edges of my knower. When they coalesce I will weave on in.
love the names: dewi sri, meskhenet- even without the descriptions they conjure images of wonder and exploration.
There are images tantalizingly trying to materialize at the edges of my knower. When they coalesce I will weave on in.
love the names: dewi sri, meskhenet- even without the descriptions they conjure images of wonder and exploration.
7bakabaka84
Just learned of a new one ironically while watching an anime
Koro-pok-guru (people below the leaves of the butterbur plant)
They come from the Ainu peoples folklore. The Ainu say that they lived in the Ainu lands before they did. They were known for their small size, agility and ability to fish. The Koro-pok-guru were on good terms with the Ainu and traded gifts with them but always at night as they did not like to be seen. However an Ainu man wanted to see a Koro-pok-guru so set waited in ambush for when they left their gifts and garbed one dragging it into his house so he could see them in the light. It turned out to be a beautiful woman of the Koro-pok-guru and they were so affronted by the Ainu mans rudeness that they refused to show them selves to the Ainu ever since.
More interesting is that there might be evidence that this mythical race of people might have actual existed as artifacts that are not of Ainu origin have been found and the Koro-pok-guru might have been an example of Homo floresiensis
Koro-pok-guru (people below the leaves of the butterbur plant)
They come from the Ainu peoples folklore. The Ainu say that they lived in the Ainu lands before they did. They were known for their small size, agility and ability to fish. The Koro-pok-guru were on good terms with the Ainu and traded gifts with them but always at night as they did not like to be seen. However an Ainu man wanted to see a Koro-pok-guru so set waited in ambush for when they left their gifts and garbed one dragging it into his house so he could see them in the light. It turned out to be a beautiful woman of the Koro-pok-guru and they were so affronted by the Ainu mans rudeness that they refused to show them selves to the Ainu ever since.
More interesting is that there might be evidence that this mythical race of people might have actual existed as artifacts that are not of Ainu origin have been found and the Koro-pok-guru might have been an example of Homo floresiensis
8tootstorm
I love Eskimo mythology. One of the stories that stuck with me most--in probably its dirtiest rendition (and forgive me if I'm a bit drunk and going off a 2-year-old memory)--was something about a penis and a lake.
It involves a recently-married couple living in the isolation you can easily imagination many Eskies lived in, living in their gender roles doing those gender things, until the guy gets a hint that his beloved may me cheating on him. He hunts and hunts, coming home only to find her arriving late.
He follows her one day to see what she's up to. A pause when she arrives at a lake. She yells PENIS PENIS PENIS out into the lake, and a massive dick rises right the fuck up and zing zang zoom, some serious fucking goes on, husband watching.
Time passes. He goes out on his own to the lake, yells for the penis, and gets to business. He slaughters it. Cuts it to pieces. Takes it home. Cooks it. Has his wife eat it. Shoves in her face Ha Ha I saw what you fucked, now you're chowin' on that dick and she right there falls rigid to the floor, dyin' in a daze and overcome with maggot infestation.
But the story doesn't end there. O no. Husband dumps the body and months pass. He starts coming home to cooked meals, and with noone home to cook, what's goin' on, any normal human would ask? Well, of course a fox has arrived, sneaking in during the day to cook for Mr. Eskimo until he wises up and jumps the poor fox, which happens to secretly be a super-fine babe when she's inclined.
Marriage.
Relations get less interesting and they meet with the neighbors for sexual suggestions. "Let's swap wives," the neighbor duck says, letting Mr. Eskimo borrow his wife, a pile of fucking shit.
Yep. Dude wife-swaps with a duck married to shit. Literally.
At some point a cave with a giant maggot is involved, but I can't remember how it fits.
It involves a recently-married couple living in the isolation you can easily imagination many Eskies lived in, living in their gender roles doing those gender things, until the guy gets a hint that his beloved may me cheating on him. He hunts and hunts, coming home only to find her arriving late.
He follows her one day to see what she's up to. A pause when she arrives at a lake. She yells PENIS PENIS PENIS out into the lake, and a massive dick rises right the fuck up and zing zang zoom, some serious fucking goes on, husband watching.
Time passes. He goes out on his own to the lake, yells for the penis, and gets to business. He slaughters it. Cuts it to pieces. Takes it home. Cooks it. Has his wife eat it. Shoves in her face Ha Ha I saw what you fucked, now you're chowin' on that dick and she right there falls rigid to the floor, dyin' in a daze and overcome with maggot infestation.
But the story doesn't end there. O no. Husband dumps the body and months pass. He starts coming home to cooked meals, and with noone home to cook, what's goin' on, any normal human would ask? Well, of course a fox has arrived, sneaking in during the day to cook for Mr. Eskimo until he wises up and jumps the poor fox, which happens to secretly be a super-fine babe when she's inclined.
Marriage.
Relations get less interesting and they meet with the neighbors for sexual suggestions. "Let's swap wives," the neighbor duck says, letting Mr. Eskimo borrow his wife, a pile of fucking shit.
Yep. Dude wife-swaps with a duck married to shit. Literally.
At some point a cave with a giant maggot is involved, but I can't remember how it fits.
9VivalaErin
>8 tootstorm:: WOW. Just wow. That beats anything I think I've ever come across, and I'm including original fairy-tales (stories from Asia have some bestiality, but nothing like that Eskimo story).
I'm going to have to go through my collections and see what I can find.
I'm going to have to go through my collections and see what I can find.
10Durin_VII
Has anyone heard of the onocentuar? It's similar to a centaur, but instead of being part horse it's part donkey.
13Zaggnita
Mavu, from Eastern India . Daughter of Maivia Kivavia, sister of Moro. She, her sisters, and brothers became the ancestors of the tribes of New Guinea.
I love all mythologies, so I have a lot of books on them. :D
I love all mythologies, so I have a lot of books on them. :D
14tuna.moriarty
The Egyptian pantheon has some really weird Gods/Goddesses. Sekhmet, the goddess of revenge, for one. She was the goddess of revenge. Ra was mad about the humans fighting each other, generally doing bad stuff. So, he grabbed the Eye of Ra (who was a goddess in and of herself), and turned her into a new goddess, Sekhmet, a giant lioness. He sent her to earth to destroy all of the traitors. Well, she did. But she thirsted for more blood. So she killed almost all of the other people on earth. Like, everybody. The remaining people begged Ra for mercy, but Ra didn't know what to do. So he sent Thoth to talk to Sekhmet, trying to tell her to stop killing everyone. But that didn't work. So he went for Plan B.
He told the remaining humans to dye hundreds of barrels of beer with red ochre, so it looked like blood. Then, they spread the beer around Sekhmet while she was sleeping. When she woke up, she thought it was the blood from her latest kill, and so she drank it all up. Of course, she got really, really drunk, and passed out. Ra brought her to his palace and turned her back into Hathor. But he let her remain the goddess of revenge in another way. She became Hathor, goddess of love, forever torturing humans with the pain of love.
Another interesting piece of mythology is the "Seth Animal." Seth, Osiris' brother and the God of war, had the head of a completely unidentifiable animal. Scientists and academics have tried to determine what the heck it is. It looks like a small dog with the head of an aardvark and a forked tail. Many think that it may have been an extinct animal, but no one is absolutely certain.
He told the remaining humans to dye hundreds of barrels of beer with red ochre, so it looked like blood. Then, they spread the beer around Sekhmet while she was sleeping. When she woke up, she thought it was the blood from her latest kill, and so she drank it all up. Of course, she got really, really drunk, and passed out. Ra brought her to his palace and turned her back into Hathor. But he let her remain the goddess of revenge in another way. She became Hathor, goddess of love, forever torturing humans with the pain of love.
Another interesting piece of mythology is the "Seth Animal." Seth, Osiris' brother and the God of war, had the head of a completely unidentifiable animal. Scientists and academics have tried to determine what the heck it is. It looks like a small dog with the head of an aardvark and a forked tail. Many think that it may have been an extinct animal, but no one is absolutely certain.
