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So the Pope should order all those Priests to be defrocked and then Excommunicated. That would Punish all the Priests who molested the Altar Boys over the years and also serve as a warning to any Priest in the future that the same thing will happen to them as well if they get caught doing the exact same thing. Of course what these Priests did was wrong and should be severely Punished.
Am I wrong in thinking if someone is Excommunicated that they are no longer considered to be a Catholic? And they can't even set foot in
a Catholic Church again? And that they'd have to be buried outside Holy Ground in a pauper's grave. If you're Excommunicated from the Catholic Church doesn't that make you a Free Agent to chose to convert to another Religion? The best analogyI could think of at the time was one that's Sports related.
Plus these Priests should be made to give a Personal Apology to all of the families that they affected over the years and should be ordered to do some kind of Community Service as well.
Are you sure this was where you meant to post? Isn't this group about books?
"Maybe the book has been recommended to you over and over again. Or it's a classic. But every time you try to read it, it bores you, angers you, or fails to capture your interest.
"Luckily, there's someone out there willing to praise this book enough to make you try again."
They can't physically prevent THE OFFENDER from going to Mass, but if someone recognizes THE OFFENDER, they can deny him/her the sacraments. (Yeah, nuns are guilty, too.) To excommunicate someone is to outcast THE OFFENDER. Move to another county, or a different Diocese, and nobody knows who you are. By the smoke and mirrors they call "miracles", if THE OFFENDER consumes one of those blessed wafers, it's magically "unblessed", and all s/he got was a calorie or two of unleavened bread instead of the body-and-blood. Confessions are unforgiven, even if penance is prescribed and borne out. There's no effect from the application of anointed oils on the death bed.
Holy ground isn't all it's cracked up to be... Priests will bless damn near anything - people, their pets, houses, cars, stuffed teddy bears, and real estate. And simply because THE OFFENDER isn't allowed to be buried in a Catholic cemetery, it doesn't mean that her/his alternative is a ~pauper's~ grave. There are plenty of secular cemeteries around.
lilithcat I agree with you on that statement 100%.
I asked a question; I didn't make a statement.
I didn't deliberately set out to offend anyone. I never have in the past either. I don't mean to be controversial people just misunderstand some of my comments and put words in my mouth and they start ganging up on me and calling me all kinds of names like what happened to me in both Pro and Con and also Poetry Fool. I was only curious about Excommunication and said I felt the Priests that are guilty should be defrocked and Excommunicated from the Catholic Church. I don't approve of what they did and I never said that I approved of what they did either. Hey if people want to start queing up to start ganging up on me and calling me all kinds of names like Pro and Con and
Poetry Fool. I'll just leave this group as well. Like I say I know I'm not the most Popular person here in LT because I watch Fox News, don't approve of Obama's Policies and also because I also post quite a lot in other groups like The Haunted Soda and some of the Book related groups. I feel a lot of people here in LT must really hate me. And I know I have an awful thin skin and maybe
take some things people say about me too seriously and let it get to me.
I don't see how anything ~anyone~ said in this thread could have made you think that he/she/it was offended.
Take a deep breath, and let it out slowly. (Repeat as often as needed.)
It's all okay.
No one's offended. I just thought that you had erroneously posted here. It's not uncommon on these forums for someone to accidentally post in the wrong group and not realize it until it's pointed out.
Who says tis group has to alwaye be about books?
The group's creator. What I quoted above is the group's purpose, as set out on its main page.
Wait, you're weighing in on one of the most controversial topics of the day and you don't mean to be controversial? Stop and think about that for a second.
But to answer your question, sure, the Catholic Church could excommunicate the offenders. They can pretty much excommunicate anyone they want to, but it requires action from the Pope, who appears to have little inclination to do so. So it really is a moot point. I believe one of the arguments made against excommunication is that the priests in question have confessed their sins, done pennance, and received absolution, and as a esult, they should be forgiven by the Church. Not being Catholic I think this is a pretty weak argument, but it is what it is.
I think I know the answer to my own question and I'm betting it's beause the topic is so controversial and the other is just a series of books about far away beautiful, wonderful, exciting, imaginary places people would love to visit. Even though the movies are based on books that probably qualifies as why no one made any objections about Lord of the Rings vs. Harry Potter.
The religious subject may have been more appropriate in a religious group, or perhaps Off-Topic.
To me, as a modern day Catholic, ex-communication means denial of the Sacraments, an equally serious punishment.
Keep in mind, Christianity is a religion of mercy, first and foremost. That's what makes it so hard for the Church to just throw these priests out. The Church needs to create an order in which all perverted priests and nuns are kept segregated from society, keeping them in the middle of nowhere with no ability to return to civilization: a city of refuge, if you will. Then let God sort them out when the time comes.