Who wants to read [Ten Books That Screwed Up The World] as a discussion/club?

Do you mean the book 10 Books That Screwed Up the World: And 5 Others That Didn't Help, or the 15 books he discusses? OR the 15 books alongside his essays?

I meant the first but if number one goes well keep going!

If a few more want to join in then I'm interested.

Anyone?

And any thoughts on a disturbing discussion group in general?

I don't have that book but if someone lets me know what the books are, I'll try to join in.

Moomin - I sent out some invites today- wait and see who turns up.
Wanted to add this as a resource: http://listverse.com/literature/10-books-that-screwed-up-the-world/
Also, just a pre-warning (don't say i didn't warn anyone) the slant or POV of the book is a little right of center.

>6 frdiamond::

I got that from one of the LT reviews. I'm still interested as I'd like to know more about the books and I'm capable of overlooking any other "agendas", though I must say that I think it is quite funny (and possibly fitting) that the book has a particular slant, considering the topic.

Considering the bible is one of the books , I would say it's hilarious!

The review you mentioned is biased too since it seems the review is more like a sign post directing people to his site.

more controversy of a sort:http://thepoint.breakpoint.org/2008/05/re-bad-boy-list.html#comment-114919574

>5 cal8769::
The books discussed in 10 Books That Screwed Up the World: And 5 Others That Didn't Help are:
The Prince
Discourse on Method
Leviathan
Discourse on the Origins and Foundations of Inequality among Men
The Manifesto of the Communist Party
Utilitarianism
The Descent of Man
Beyond Good and Evil
The State and Revolution
The Pivot of Civilization
Mein Kampf
The Future of an Illusion
Coming of Age in Samoa
Sexual Behaviour in the Human Male
The Feminine Mystique

>8 frdiamond::
The Bible isn't one of the books, which doesn't surprise me. Have you had any replies yet? I'm just wondering if the tone of the book is putting people off.

coming of age in samoa is on both listverse and the book. I am getting some backlash check my page but many havent answered yet.

I'm new to the group (just found it yesterday) but I would be interested in a group read.

Me too! We just have to find a book more than two can agree on. Were you interested in the book mentioned or something else?

frdiamond - did you hear anything else from the group members?

The Bible isn't one of them? All that misogyny, sexual abuse, sexual perversion, ethnocentrism, tribal genocide, weird public health codes and totally tacky tricked-out temples?

Well I guess it was saved by all that lyrical, peaceful hippy New Testament stuff...

As a child I was always a fan of the Old Testament (for the above reasons) - wasn't a fan of the peaceful hippy stuff. I blame Cecil B. DeMille and all those biblical epics...

hmm God grew up backwards weird he was some kinda patriarchical (is this a word?) tyrant and grew out of it into the flower child. Much more mature...

About Machiavelli screwing up the world: (9, top of list)

Yes, that possibility has crossed my mind more than once.
Unfortunately, tp me, itʻs more than just a possibility. Think of how far we have come from the "Science" that Copernicus and Galileo grew up with, and which they did a lot to change. Then think of Political "Science". How far have we come from Machiavelli? Can we cope with a 21st century world on a 16th century political philosophy?

In fairness to N. M., however, I must admit that the first thing whic h turned me off him was the very title of the
translations of Il Principe -- a terrible mistranslation, and that isnʻt his fault. N. M. wasnʻt talking about monarchsʻ sons (the UK meaning of "prince") or other High Nobility (the meaning in other countries, including Italy). "The Ruler" is about the closest you can come in English, and a ruler might or might not be from the nobility. Machiavelli derived the word "Principe" from the Latin "princeps" a word which didnʻt appear until the end of the Roman Republic; the first "princeps" (the word literally means First Head) was Augustus, i.e. the first absolute Ruler, something Rome
had not had before Augustus, except for a brief period under his uncle and adopted father, Julius Caesar.