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1MrsLee
I'm starting this thread early (I haven't actually watched any, just ordered some from Netflicks), and it may not be necessary, as in all talked about already, but thought it might be fun to talk about the films, etc. Maybe how we wished they were, how they were done, etc. Votes for and against? Any thoughts here?
2waiting4morning
I've only seen Ian Carmichael's performance as LPW once (in "Clouds of Witness"), and don't care to repeat the experience. He was very physically wrong for the part and I couldn't get past that.
I have seen the Edward Petherbridge versions, however, and greatly prefer him to Carmichael. The only downsides to the Petherbridge versions might be that they changed some plot things slightly in Gaudy Night, but seeing how that book is such an introspective work, it's amazing they even attempted it. Another downside is that there are only a few Petherbridge as LPW movies; the ones with Harriet in them (they have a *great* Harriet, I might as well add).
I have seen the Edward Petherbridge versions, however, and greatly prefer him to Carmichael. The only downsides to the Petherbridge versions might be that they changed some plot things slightly in Gaudy Night, but seeing how that book is such an introspective work, it's amazing they even attempted it. Another downside is that there are only a few Petherbridge as LPW movies; the ones with Harriet in them (they have a *great* Harriet, I might as well add).
3Eurydice
Yes, Petherbridge is a wonderful Lord Peter - and the Harriet is likewise excellent. Waiting4morning's quite right: they're worth seeing, even though there are so few. I haven't seen the Ian Carmichael, myself.
5lilithcat
While I, too, prefer Petherbridge's Wimsey to Carmichael's, I loathed, hated and despised the television version of Gaudy Night. I thought its portrayal of Harriet's relationship with Peter, and of the College dons, completely upended Sayers'. Once again, we were treated to a pathetic little woman dependent on the man, and the unique and interesting academics were reduced to stereotypes. And, of course, god forbid that in a TV show we should allow Latin!
6MrsLee
Got my first disk (I'm on the cheap plan and only get one disk at a time) and so have only seen parts 1 and 2 of Clouds of Witness. In the special feature interview, even Ian Charmichael thought he was too old for Wimsey (aged 51), and I agree, but I'll forgive him because he seems to really love the stories and the character.
I did like most of the other characters, especially Parker (Charmichael took credit for getting him casted).
I think I can see why they haven't been re-run on TV. They are not very visually stimulating. No musical score, somewhat difficult for my middle-aged American ears to follow the dialect, and they just don't hold up to the more modern Mysteries on PBS. Wish they would do them again, right and with feeling.
Now I have to bide my time until the next disc comes. I have a Jeeves and Wooster and a movie for my son coming first. It's O.K., I know how the story ends :)
I did like most of the other characters, especially Parker (Charmichael took credit for getting him casted).
I think I can see why they haven't been re-run on TV. They are not very visually stimulating. No musical score, somewhat difficult for my middle-aged American ears to follow the dialect, and they just don't hold up to the more modern Mysteries on PBS. Wish they would do them again, right and with feeling.
Now I have to bide my time until the next disc comes. I have a Jeeves and Wooster and a movie for my son coming first. It's O.K., I know how the story ends :)
7LolaWalser
I liked the three Petherbridge/Walter movies too. Incidentally, Harriet Walter (playing a namesake!) is Christopher Lee's niece--which has nothing to do with Wimsey, but I invoke my rights to piffle. :)
8MrsLee
Exactly! I love piffling, one learns so much :) Thank you for telling me, I love connections like that. I have Christopher Lee's biography, but I've not read it yet. My daughter did and enjoyed it. Wimsey? Oops, I piffled more.
9byzanne
I've listened to a few of the books on audio - Have His Carcase and a couple of others... Ian Carmichael is the reader and he is excellent. I tried to watch one of the films - can't remember now which one - but it did not keep my attention and I switched it off.
BBC Radio 7 has recently broadcast a dramatisation of Murder Must Advertise which has Ian Carmichael in the role of Wimsey. I think I prefer to listen rather than watch!
BBC Radio 7 has recently broadcast a dramatisation of Murder Must Advertise which has Ian Carmichael in the role of Wimsey. I think I prefer to listen rather than watch!
10LolaWalser
I'm precisely the opposite... Can't stand audiobooks--and in this particular case I thought the leads were so well chosen!
I don't mind listening to poetry, though, and I have several Shakespeare plays on CDs.
I don't mind listening to poetry, though, and I have several Shakespeare plays on CDs.
11Katissima
I have to agree with Lilithcat, that Gaudy Night was TERRIBLE. The Ian Carmichael's were okay. Murder Must Advertise definitely emphasized the fact that he was really too old and stout for Lord Peter. You can tell that he really adores the character. Ian Carmichael is a great reader for the Sayers audiobooks. In fact, it quite ruined me for Ian Carmichael reading Jeeves and Wooster.
12parelle
I really love Petherbridge, and hated Gaudy Night. My complaint? No Lord St. George, and no 'Mr. Jones of Jesus'! Leave the mystery (and spoil it for that matter in the first two seconds) and take out the heart of the book? I wish they could have done Busman's Honeymoon though!
That said, the televised version of Have His Carcase was brilliant, and did a wonderful job showing some of the strain in their relationship. Frankly, it probably helped that this one was longer.
That said, the televised version of Have His Carcase was brilliant, and did a wonderful job showing some of the strain in their relationship. Frankly, it probably helped that this one was longer.