The source for "The Royal Library of Sweden (LIBRIS)" doesn't seem to work

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The source for "The Royal Library of Sweden (LIBRIS)" doesn't seem to work

1Saur2000
Ago 9, 2022, 5:23 pm

No matter what ISBN number I search for, the source for "The Royal Library of Sweden (LIBRIS)" does no currently seem to find anything. This includes ISBN numbers that I have previously used when adding books to my library (this is the only source I use). If I go to https://libris.kb.se/ directly, I can use the ISBN numbers to find the expected books.

2Nicole_VanK
Ago 10, 2022, 6:08 am

There are lots of broken sources at the moment. People are looking into the problem : https://www.librarything.com/topic/343006

3kristilabrie
Ago 10, 2022, 9:08 am

I'm closing this but referencing it in the thread noted by >2 Nicole_VanK:, so we'll look at this together with the rest, when we're ready.

4ccatalfo
Ago 11, 2022, 7:43 am

Got LIBRIS working again - a few tweaks to encoding settings and a bug fix.

5anglemark
Ago 17, 2022, 7:20 am

Just opening this as the encoding is f****d up in the records that are returned, so it is definitely not working properly. That has been noted elsewhere, though.

6bnielsen
Ago 17, 2022, 7:23 am

When the mess with the current sources are cleaned up, maybe cleaning up all the crap that has gotten into Overcat this way would be a good idea?

7ccatalfo
Ago 22, 2022, 10:52 am

>5 anglemark: Returning to this, alas.
>6 bnielsen: Yes, indeed.

8Saur2000
Ago 30, 2022, 4:46 pm

While the LIBRIS source seems to work (sort of), it fails to return an entry for 978-91-7985-159-0. If I search for it on https://libris.kb.se/, I get the expected result ("Den lilla onda boken"). I'm not sure if this is a good place to report this kind of problems, or if there is some more appropriate place.

9jjwilson61
Ago 30, 2022, 11:31 pm

>8 Saur2000: Try it without the dashes

10anglemark
Ago 31, 2022, 2:38 am

>9 jjwilson61: But that's a workaround. It should work with the dashes, shouldn't it, so it's still a bug.

11Saur2000
Ago 31, 2022, 4:32 am

I've tried both with and without dashes...

12bnielsen
Ago 31, 2022, 4:50 am

I'm getting a bit tired of this error. (Means that I have to manually input stuff that I can look up with a yaz-client from the source.)

(I've considered installing koha locally, import the books via kohas z3950 import. Enable kohas z3950 server. Adding it as a library source in LT. Importing it from my koha server. But since the import from koha would likely display the same bug, the idea was stillborn.)

13bnielsen
Ago 31, 2022, 4:55 am

>11 Saur2000: yaz-client finds it without problems with dashes...

$ yaz-client z3950.libris.kb.se:210/libri | latintouni
Connecting...OK.
Sent initrequest.
Connection accepted by v3 target.
Name : LIBRIS Z39.50 Server
Version: 3.0
Options: search present
Elapsed: 0.140131
Z> f 978-91-7985-159-0
Sent searchRequest.
Received SearchResponse.
Search was a success.
Number of hits: 1
records returned: 0
Elapsed: 0.054739
Z> s
Sent presentRequest (1+1).
Records: 1
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14jjwilson61
Ago 31, 2022, 1:58 pm

When I first started using LT over 15 years ago I initially tried entering ISBNs with dashes, just like they appeared in the book but I found that it only worked without them. I've been entering ISBNs sans dashes ever since so I wouldn't know if they changed

15pst
Sep 10, 2022, 10:41 am

I see that other sources have had their record encoding set to latin-1 when that has been needed. Is there any reason that hasn't happened for Libris as well?

16davidgn
Sep 10, 2022, 11:29 am

>15 pst: It has, but it ran into other problems at a deeper level than the volunteers can address.

17bnielsen
Editado: Sep 10, 2022, 11:44 am

>15 pst: It would be very helpful if examples were given, rather than

"No matter what ISBN number I search for, the source for "The Royal Library of Sweden (LIBRIS)" does no currently seem to find anything." and "the encoding is f****d up in the records that are returned".

Right now I searched for "Sweden" and got the answer that the search gave 216,117 results but the interface only displayed 1 (one) of them:

Results from The Royal Library of Sweden (LIBRIS) (216,117 results)

'Imaginary circles round the human mind' : bias and openness in Mary Wollstonecraft's Letters Written During a Short Residence in Sweden, Norway, and Denmark (1796) by Christoph Bode
2017

Paper Book

That looks like a more severe problem than just the character encoding.

ETA: I don't seem to get anything back from a search in the "Edit Library Sources" interface, so I think something is broken badly. I.e. ccatalfo must look at it.

ETA^2 what >16 davidgn: said. yaz-client confirms that it is not a problem with The Royal Library of Sweden (LIBRIS) but rather with the LT system for importing records.

18pst
Sep 10, 2022, 4:39 pm

Yes, you are right, it has become even worse and now it's hard to find anything at all with an import from Libris. Earlier there was a 'trick' I used to import using the internal Libris entry number, but that doesn't work either anymore, I don't know since when.

It is still possible to import via Overcat, but with these character encoding issues. We can take "Den lilla onda boken" as example which is the book bnielsen used above when getting info with yaz-client (which returned latin-1 data as shown in that example).
Trying to import "den lilla onda boken" with Libris as source gives nothing at all. But trying to import "den lilla onda boken" from Overcat gives two hits ("from Libris") which both have bad characters. Edition information as that in the line

264 1 $a Västra Frölunda : $b Tukan förlag, $c 2020

quoted above gets the wrong characters.

19bnielsen
Editado: Sep 11, 2022, 3:56 am

>18 pst: Thanks.

We have at least three problems:
1. searching Libris from LT is badly broken ("sweden" example)
2. older records saved in Overcat have character encoding issues
3. the interface for "superusers" to correct some of this in LT seems broken too. (i.e. test search in the interface returns something else than search in LT).

I might have forgotten an issue or two, so please add to the list if you think there's more.

20kristilabrie
Sep 12, 2022, 8:45 am

Found a new error for this one (searching for 9789179851590), so will look to handle this. Stay tuned.

21bnielsen
Editado: Sep 12, 2022, 9:38 am

Funny error, methinks: If I search for various common terms like "Nielsen" or "Sweden" the search only returns 20 records. That looks wrong!

Example: Search for "kogebog":
Results from The Royal Library of Sweden (LIBRIS) (20 results)

Maybe it's just the "Next" button, that's missing? But I think the search is somehow limited to 20 results?

22lorax
Sep 12, 2022, 9:38 am

bnielsen (#21):

That sounds suspiciously like a pagination issue.

23bnielsen
Sep 12, 2022, 9:45 am

Stranger things are also happening: A search for "kogebog"
huusholdninger gives this as first hit:


Kogebog for smaa og store huusholdninger, indeholdende anviisning til en mængde forskjellige retters og kagers tillavning, samt syltning og slagtning, af L. Eibe by Line Eibe

A search for "huusholdninger" gives:
There was an error connecting to this datasource.

Search took 1.8728 seconds
Page rendered in 1.886 seconds

So we clearly have a connection to the base, but something is badly broken.

24kristilabrie
Nov 3, 2022, 3:01 pm

Marking as fixed (cleaning up some of my starred bugs).