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RBG's Library at Bonhams

1JBD1
Editado: Ene 22, 2022, 11:42 am

ETA: We are now cataloging the Bonhams sale catalog on LT:

See the flash-mob wiki page for login info, notes, instructions, &c.

https://wiki.librarything.com/index.php/Ruth_Bader_Ginsburg

Please feel free to post questions here in this thread and I'll check in as I can.

-- Original post --

The full catalog isn't up yet, but once it is, hopefully there will be enough to make an LL out of:

https://www.bonhams.com/online_auctions/27540/

(Thanks to AbigailAdams26 and ablachly for bringing this one to my attention!)

2ablachly
Ene 4, 2022, 2:45 pm

I cannot wait.

3genesisdiem
Ene 4, 2022, 2:48 pm

>2 ablachly: me too. I would love to help with this one!

4Petroglyph
Ene 5, 2022, 9:25 am

I just read this and immediately headed over here to see if there'd been a proposal.

5benjclark
Ene 5, 2022, 5:08 pm

Currently reported that "Over 1,000 books will be sold online at Bonhams ...", which is a nice chunk:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-04/ruth-bader-ginsburg-s-private...

The rest of the library has already been spread around by the sound of things, though the noted opera fan's opera books and CDs went to the Washington National Opera, so maybe another subset of books could be cataloged at a later date.

6JBD1
Ene 16, 2022, 8:32 am

So, I'm not sure what's going on here. The Bonhams link has stopped working and given that the sale was supposed to start this week, it's very odd that no catalog has been posted. If I had to guess, I'd say that an institution has maybe purchased the collection en bloc and hasn't announced it yet - but we'll see. I've put out some feelers to see if I can find out what's happening.

7JBD1
Ene 17, 2022, 5:16 pm

And now the link has started working again and I've heard that the full catalog won't be posted until the sale opens, for some reason. A very strange state of affairs.

8kristilabrie
Ene 18, 2022, 8:52 am

There's a number of items in the preview lot, this morning https://www.bonhams.com/online_auctions/27540/?pageLimit=48

9JBD1
Ene 18, 2022, 5:31 pm

Yep, those have been up for a while (until they disappeared for a few days and then reappeared). But the bulk of it isn't listed at all yet. Very different from how these things usually go.

10kristilabrie
Ene 19, 2022, 12:02 pm

Interesting!

11JBD1
Ene 19, 2022, 12:05 pm

More seems to be appearing now - hopefully soon we'll have the full picture.

12JBD1
Ene 20, 2022, 12:29 pm

Okay we do finally have a full catalog, and Bonhams have done an amazing job and even included full author/title/date information for multi-item lots, which is a delight.

https://images2.bonhams.com/original?src=Images/live/2022-01/18/S-27540-0-1.pdf

I've written to Bonhams to confirm that they'd be okay with us creating an LT account based on their catalog, and will report back asap.

13kristilabrie
Ene 20, 2022, 12:38 pm

Woohoo!

14JBD1
Ene 21, 2022, 8:32 am

Okay, we've got the okay from Bonhams and from Justice Ginsburg's family - and it's possible that they may be able to provide some info on the portions of the library which did not go to Bonhams for sale, which would be tremendously exciting (keep your fingers crossed on that).

I will get things prepped tonight for a cataloging project - in the meantime, if you are interested in helping (and haven't yet said so in this thread) please post a quick note here to say so - that will help as I figure out how to divvy up the catalog.

Thanks!

15knerd.knitter
Ene 21, 2022, 8:57 am

I would like to help if I'm able!

16karenb
Ene 21, 2022, 6:58 pm

Yay! Thanks for doing the work on this. I'd love to help.

17auldhouse
Ene 21, 2022, 7:10 pm

Wow! I am completely fangirling over this catalog.

18JBD1
Ene 22, 2022, 11:37 am

Okay, we're ready to go. See the flash-mob wiki for login details and instructions:

https://wiki.librarything.com/index.php/Ruth_Bader_Ginsburg

Please feel free to post questions here and I'll check in as I can.

19genesisdiem
Ene 22, 2022, 12:42 pm

I've claimed the lot that includes etiquette.
I'd love to do the First Ladies lot and the Physics lot but I'll hold off to give others a chance first.
So excited to be a (very small) part of this!

20JBD1
Ene 22, 2022, 12:48 pm

>19 genesisdiem: - thanks! Have fun!

21JBD1
Editado: Ene 22, 2022, 5:36 pm

Quick request: could we put the link to the Bonhams lot at the top of the Comments field, please, to allow for sorting on that field that will provide a list by lot number? Thanks!

22genesisdiem
Ene 22, 2022, 6:15 pm

>21 JBD1: It looks as though it might need to be listed as Lot 002, 012, 112, etc. in order to show up correctly?

23JBD1
Ene 22, 2022, 6:50 pm

>22 genesisdiem: Yeah it won't be absolutely perfect, but having the lot numbers at the top will be better than the alternative.

24karenb
Ene 23, 2022, 5:50 am

Note: I'm finding data entry errors in the auction catalog (author names misspelled, wrong word in title, wrong publisher for edition). Worldcat helps.

25JBD1
Ene 23, 2022, 6:57 am

Yep - to be expected to some degree with these things :-)

26JBD1
Ene 24, 2022, 4:50 pm

Still a few sections to grab, folks - feel free to hop in and help!

27karenb
Ene 25, 2022, 8:29 am

In Lot 106, at the bottom of the list of books, it says:

"WITH: New Republic, August 2, 1993, featuring an illustration of Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the cover."

Is this its own item, or was it tucked into the copy of the Aries book (item 15)?

28JBD1
Ene 25, 2022, 8:37 am

>27 karenb: - looking at the image, it looks like that's just a loose magazine issue accompanying the lot. It can be omitted. Thanks!

29benjclark
Ene 25, 2022, 9:41 pm

If it's the whole magazine, wouldn't it be included as a distinct item? Just curious.

30karenb
Ene 26, 2022, 9:09 am

Also, will the catalog info remain up after the auctions end? Or do we have a built-in deadline of tomorrow afternoon (Eastern US time)?

31JBD1
Ene 26, 2022, 9:15 am

>30 karenb: - good question. The lot pages should stay live, but that's never a sure thing. The PDF should stay up, and I've downloaded a copy of that as a backup just in case some lot pages do disappear.

32Nevov
Ene 26, 2022, 9:38 am

I'll submit the webpages into the Wayback Machine website as well, for another backup.

33JBD1
Ene 27, 2022, 1:41 pm

Note that the auction is ending now and holy guacamole, some of these prices!

34genesisdiem
Ene 27, 2022, 1:49 pm

>33 JBD1: no kidding! I wondered if there was some sort of charitable tax write-off or if this is just institutions vying for new collections.

35JBD1
Ene 27, 2022, 2:05 pm

I'd be surprised if it's institutions at those prices, at least in the majority of cases. Very few are gonna throw around that kind of money for these sorts of books, RBG's or no.

36Keeline
Ene 27, 2022, 3:06 pm

High prices are probably reflecting admirers of RBG who want a piece of her library as a piece of history. Maybe they think the association will be worth more in the future.

If she is like most people, she may own more books than she has actually read. Sometimes you get something because it was given to you or you think it will be interesting to read in the future when you get around to it. In previous centuries someone like a Jefferson may have handled all of his books and read most of them since books were not so common. It is so different now.

James

37JBD1
Ene 27, 2022, 3:16 pm

Yeah, exactly. And there are indeed a lot of presentation copies in this library, including bunches of really uncommon/self-published ones.

And of course remember that the Bonhams sale is only a piece of this library, much of which was donated to various places and charities.

38Cynfelyn
Ene 27, 2022, 4:05 pm

Are the prices being preserved in the Legacy Library, perhaps in each book's Comments?

39JBD1
Ene 27, 2022, 4:11 pm

>38 Cynfelyn: - Good question. How do folks feel? With sooooo many multi-volume lots, it would be a lot of work (and fairly misleading) to include the total lot price in each book's record. So I'm inclined not to include it, but willing to be persuaded ...

40genesisdiem
Ene 27, 2022, 4:57 pm

>39 JBD1: perhaps making a note on the main page but not each individual entry?

41JBD1
Ene 27, 2022, 5:49 pm

>40 genesisdiem: - Yeah I was thinking something like that too.

42JBD1
Ene 29, 2022, 5:05 pm

Okay I think we're pretty much all in, I will do a little cleanup and add some info about the sale prices and then I think we're pretty much there. As I mentioned there is a chance we'll get more info about books that went elsewhere, and if so I'll put out another call for help! Thanks to everyone who pitched in!!

43varielle
Abr 27, 2022, 6:53 pm

There’s a story on cbs news tonight about RBG’s auction. Back soon if I can get the link.

45JBD1
Mar 21, 6:04 am

Heritage Auctions is re-selling some of the same RBG books sold at Bonhams in 2022: https://historical.ha.com/c/search/results.zx?dept=2541&mode=live&auctio... (I looked through and didn't find anything here that wasn't offered previously, but if I missed something, holler!)