1maisiedotes
I first saw an EP book at a library sale a few years ago but only became EP-obsessed last month (seven months of sheltering-in-place does things to you).
Could someone help me understand all the acronyms that pepper the posts (DLE, LEC, and many more)? Thanks.
Could someone help me understand all the acronyms that pepper the posts (DLE, LEC, and many more)? Thanks.
2jroger1
Welcome to our group, where sheltering in place means spending money.
The Limited Editions Club (LEC) and Heritage Press (HP) were forerunners of Easton Press (EP), and EP owns the right to reprint most of their editions. Check out the George Macy forum on LibraryThing (LT) for more information. DLE is short for EP’s series of Deluxe Limited Editions, some of the finest (and most expensive) books it has produced.
FS represents the Folio Society, a London-based competitor of EP. Many of us collect books from both publishers. Check out the very active Folio Society Devotees forum on LT.
Franklin Library (FL), which ceased publication in the 90’s, published many books similar to EP’s. Its LT forum is nearly dormant today but still contains a wealth of information in its older threads.
Many out-of-print books from all these publishers are available, often inexpensively, on the secondary market, especially eBay and abe.com (advanced book exchange).
Happy hunting!
The Limited Editions Club (LEC) and Heritage Press (HP) were forerunners of Easton Press (EP), and EP owns the right to reprint most of their editions. Check out the George Macy forum on LibraryThing (LT) for more information. DLE is short for EP’s series of Deluxe Limited Editions, some of the finest (and most expensive) books it has produced.
FS represents the Folio Society, a London-based competitor of EP. Many of us collect books from both publishers. Check out the very active Folio Society Devotees forum on LT.
Franklin Library (FL), which ceased publication in the 90’s, published many books similar to EP’s. Its LT forum is nearly dormant today but still contains a wealth of information in its older threads.
Many out-of-print books from all these publishers are available, often inexpensively, on the secondary market, especially eBay and abe.com (advanced book exchange).
Happy hunting!
3sdawson
>1 maisiedotes:
Welcome masiedotes. We are a friendly bunch. We welcome all questions, evaluations, salutations and a few other -ations.
Welcome masiedotes. We are a friendly bunch. We welcome all questions, evaluations, salutations and a few other -ations.
5maisiedotes
>jroger1: Thank you for explaining the acronyms. I will check out the George Macy forum.
>sdawson and >GOBOGIE: I appreciate your words of welcome.
My EP acquisitions thus far are of the humbler variety. I'm almost afraid to project what temptations I'll face as a result of reading this forum.
>sdawson and >GOBOGIE: I appreciate your words of welcome.
My EP acquisitions thus far are of the humbler variety. I'm almost afraid to project what temptations I'll face as a result of reading this forum.
6hamletscamaro
>5 maisiedotes:, Yes, if you search "Easton Press" and "DLE" on eBay, you generally get much more expensive items! :)
Certain Deluxe Limited Editions are very pricey on the secondary market. Ocassionally, and if you are patient, you can find good deals. Again, Library Thing is very good to educate you on production history for several different publishers and various series. For Easton Press, user "Wootle" has some very good threads on historical catalogs, or simply on series lists with print run counts and original pricing. Although, I would say, ignorance is bliss, and what you don't know will cost you far less. So you have been warned! :)
Welcome to the forum. Feel free to post some of your thoughts, concerns or questions. There are a lot of users willing to help.
Certain Deluxe Limited Editions are very pricey on the secondary market. Ocassionally, and if you are patient, you can find good deals. Again, Library Thing is very good to educate you on production history for several different publishers and various series. For Easton Press, user "Wootle" has some very good threads on historical catalogs, or simply on series lists with print run counts and original pricing. Although, I would say, ignorance is bliss, and what you don't know will cost you far less. So you have been warned! :)
Welcome to the forum. Feel free to post some of your thoughts, concerns or questions. There are a lot of users willing to help.
7maisiedotes
>6 hamletscamaro: hamletscamaro: Thank you for the insights and welcome.
Does Easton make a DLE and a regular edition (would that be the Collector edition?) of the same book?
What are the main differences apart from the price tag?
Where can I go to look at comparison pictures?
Does Easton make a DLE and a regular edition (would that be the Collector edition?) of the same book?
What are the main differences apart from the price tag?
Where can I go to look at comparison pictures?
8hamletscamaro
>7 maisiedotes: Easton Press's DLEs normally have very little to do with their regular editions (and yes, you could call them "Collectors" editions, as I think that may be what EP puts inside the books). It is not as if they will produce a regular edition and then an extra special "deluxe" edition of the same printing, as some other book makers will sometimes do.
There are no standard "DLE" characteristics. Some of the additional upgrades may include things like more illustrations, or specially commissioned illustrations, tipped in illustrations, clam shell cases or slip cases, special or hand marbled end papers (although very few hand marbled papers these days), sometimes thicker end boards or nicer leather. Sometimes signed by the author or illustrator. All of the Deluxe Limited Editions will be from a shorter and numbered print run; each with a certificate of authenticity.
Two of Wootle's current threads on DLEs are:
- The comprehensive DLE list: https://www.librarything.com/topic/271019
- DLE's signed by the Illustrator series: https://www.librarything.com/topic/281244
Each will have additional photos, links, discussion links, etc. You can look through those and see some of the variations.
There are no standard "DLE" characteristics. Some of the additional upgrades may include things like more illustrations, or specially commissioned illustrations, tipped in illustrations, clam shell cases or slip cases, special or hand marbled end papers (although very few hand marbled papers these days), sometimes thicker end boards or nicer leather. Sometimes signed by the author or illustrator. All of the Deluxe Limited Editions will be from a shorter and numbered print run; each with a certificate of authenticity.
Two of Wootle's current threads on DLEs are:
- The comprehensive DLE list: https://www.librarything.com/topic/271019
- DLE's signed by the Illustrator series: https://www.librarything.com/topic/281244
Each will have additional photos, links, discussion links, etc. You can look through those and see some of the variations.
9maisiedotes
>8 hamletscamaro: Thanks for the links and photos. I have my reading and photo-viewing cut out for me!
10maisiedotes
I'm still figuring my way around Library Thing. I very often see TinyPic "no longer available" messages (though not for >8 hamletscamaro:).
Have those pictures been deleted? How long is it until a picture is taken down?
If the picture is moved, how would I know where to find it?
Have those pictures been deleted? How long is it until a picture is taken down?
If the picture is moved, how would I know where to find it?
11hamletscamaro
>10 maisiedotes: Since you cannot post pictures directly to Librarything, you have to post the link to where the photos are actually stored. Often people use photo services that are either no longer around, or that have changed their business models. For example, Photobucket used to be a free service, but now they are a subscription service to which many people have decided not to subscribe. In these cases, the only place to get the photo may be directly from the original person posting.
12HugoDumas
>10 maisiedotes: A disappointment of this site is its inability to allow permanent imports of pictures from your photo library.
13jroger1
>10 maisiedotes:
Photos can be helpful in seeing the style of the illustrations but not much else. Too much depends on the skill of the photographer, the camera used, the lighting, etc. The books I’ve received are sometimes a different color from what I had expected. Also, most sellers on eBay shy away from posting interior photographs, perhaps for perceived copyright reasons. I was looking at a listing yesterday for an expensive set of books, but no written description was offered, only a statement referring potential customers to the 9 photos provided. Unfortunately, all the photos were of the exterior, so there was no way to know if there were stains or writings or torn pages or bookplates, or to know if they might smell like cigarette smoke or cat urine.
I don’t do photography myself, and I don’t rely on the photos I see in sales listings. I want to see a detailed written description unless, as I noted above, interior shots are provided. Thankfully, we have several good photographers in this forum who aren’t afraid to show examples of the illustrations and who know how to post them.
Photos can be helpful in seeing the style of the illustrations but not much else. Too much depends on the skill of the photographer, the camera used, the lighting, etc. The books I’ve received are sometimes a different color from what I had expected. Also, most sellers on eBay shy away from posting interior photographs, perhaps for perceived copyright reasons. I was looking at a listing yesterday for an expensive set of books, but no written description was offered, only a statement referring potential customers to the 9 photos provided. Unfortunately, all the photos were of the exterior, so there was no way to know if there were stains or writings or torn pages or bookplates, or to know if they might smell like cigarette smoke or cat urine.
I don’t do photography myself, and I don’t rely on the photos I see in sales listings. I want to see a detailed written description unless, as I noted above, interior shots are provided. Thankfully, we have several good photographers in this forum who aren’t afraid to show examples of the illustrations and who know how to post them.
14maisiedotes
>11 hamletscamaro:
>12 HugoDumas:
>13 jroger1:
Thanks, as always, for the answers and guidance.
When using the following database, how do I look up Yeats or Walt Whitman, for example? Surely I don't have to scroll (and scroll) (and scroll) (and scroll)?
https://www.librarything.com/topic/314818
Just venting here: I'm making my way through War and Peace (obtained on the secondary market). After reading it for just ONE WEEK, the design on the spine started rubbing off! I don't even hold the book while reading; it is set on a soft surface. Big sigh.
>12 HugoDumas:
>13 jroger1:
Thanks, as always, for the answers and guidance.
When using the following database, how do I look up Yeats or Walt Whitman, for example? Surely I don't have to scroll (and scroll) (and scroll) (and scroll)?
https://www.librarything.com/topic/314818
Just venting here: I'm making my way through War and Peace (obtained on the secondary market). After reading it for just ONE WEEK, the design on the spine started rubbing off! I don't even hold the book while reading; it is set on a soft surface. Big sigh.
15Wootle
"A quick way to find any word on this thread is to use the Ctrl+F function. Hold down the Ctrl button and hit f and that brings up a search box. Type in an author, title etc. and it will highlight the word you are looking for if it exists on the page. If there are more than 1 entry, you can scroll down the page to see all of them."
With that said, most of the classic authors are going to be in early series and sets, which there aren't to many in the DB as of yet as they are from the early days of EP. I am working from present day backwards.
With that said, most of the classic authors are going to be in early series and sets, which there aren't to many in the DB as of yet as they are from the early days of EP. I am working from present day backwards.
16maisiedotes
>15 Wootle: As easy as that! Thanks, Wootle.
17laotzu225
>14 maisiedotes: I rarely come onto the Easton group for reasons that will appear. The books look "nice" and I think select DLEs are really worth having, especially f they are as-close -to the-original as possible facsimiles of classic editions of books. One that occurs to me is W. Heath Robinson's illustrate version of Shakespeare's A Midsummer's Nights Dream from 1914.
The earlier Eastons, usually "The 100 Greatest Books" were copies of the Heritage Press (an offshoot of The now defunct but beloved Limited Editions Club-LEC). Many of the Heritage Press books were reprints of LECs, often very good books not quite up to the demanding standards of the LECs which were limited to 1500 copies.
While the leather exteriors of the Easton books are attractive (BUT you did complain of a design wearing off, which can happen), the fact is that the interiors of the Eastons are generally not as good, especially as to illustration sharpness and definition, as the Heritage-New York books. (Later Heritage Connecticut books, under different ownership, were often a step down in quality.)
The point is that you might find, when the Easton book is a copy of the Heritage, you might prefer the latter or the LEC if you find it in a condition you can accept.
Let me know if you have any questions.
The earlier Eastons, usually "The 100 Greatest Books" were copies of the Heritage Press (an offshoot of The now defunct but beloved Limited Editions Club-LEC). Many of the Heritage Press books were reprints of LECs, often very good books not quite up to the demanding standards of the LECs which were limited to 1500 copies.
While the leather exteriors of the Easton books are attractive (BUT you did complain of a design wearing off, which can happen), the fact is that the interiors of the Eastons are generally not as good, especially as to illustration sharpness and definition, as the Heritage-New York books. (Later Heritage Connecticut books, under different ownership, were often a step down in quality.)
The point is that you might find, when the Easton book is a copy of the Heritage, you might prefer the latter or the LEC if you find it in a condition you can accept.
Let me know if you have any questions.
18maisiedotes
>17 laotzu225: Thanks for the advice. I had no idea there was so much out there (you don't know what you don't know . . . ). I feel like a kid in a candy store.
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