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1timspalding
Jul 25, 2018, 1:24 pm

Last night's big downtime was for one purpose--to make the ISBN field longer. The ISBN field now accepts up to 64 characters. This will allow you to put ISBN13s with 3+ dashes, as well as library-record conventions like \ISBN\ (ebook).

Outside of your catalog ISBNs are always parsed and normalized, so if you write "0123456789 (ebook)" it will discard the "ebook" and if your ISBN isn't an ISBN it will know. But your own ISBN field is now longer.

2Petroglyph
Jul 25, 2018, 6:09 pm

Yes! Thank you!

3Stevil2001
Editado: Jul 25, 2018, 7:16 pm

Tim, you're the greatest. I don't know why you picked my RSI, but I'm beaming.

4.mau.
Jul 30, 2018, 12:57 pm

>1 timspalding: great!
May I also hope that it would somehow be possible to add both ISBN-10 and ISBN-13 in a record? (in different positions, of course) I often got stuck because I search for ISBN-13 and the book is catalogued with ISBN-10.

5lorax
Jul 30, 2018, 1:44 pm

.mau. (#4):

May I also hope that it would somehow be possible to add both ISBN-10 and ISBN-13 in a record? (in different positions, of course) I often got stuck because I search for ISBN-13 and the book is catalogued with ISBN-10.

So I'm a little confused.

Your own personal record only has space for one ISBN, but searching your own library by ISBN seems needlessly clunky and inefficient in most cases - the one exception I can think of is for people who collect many editions of a single work and want to determine whether they have a particular one. But you don't have a ton of duplicates, so that doesn't appear to be the case here.

The LT work record, of course, has many ISBNs, not only -10 and -13 but in many cases multiple instances of each one.

Each individual library source for adding books will have those ISBNs corresponding to the editions it actually holds, and of course which are present and whether they choose to catalog -10 or -13 is entirely out of LT's control.

So there must be something I'm missing here in which case this request would make more sense; help?

6jjwilson61
Jul 30, 2018, 2:08 pm

Each ISBN-10 can be turned into the equivalent ISBN-13 (and vice versa, although at some point books will be assigned ISBN-13s that don't have an equivalent ISBN-10) so there's no reason to store both values, but the search routine should do the conversion and search for both.

7lorax
Jul 30, 2018, 2:56 pm

jjwilson (#6):

Each ISBN-10 can be turned into the equivalent ISBN-13 (and vice versa, although at some point books will be assigned ISBN-13s that don't have an equivalent ISBN-10)

There are already 979-prefixed ISBN in use in Europe, though AFAIK there haven't been any issued in the US yet.

8.mau.
Jul 31, 2018, 9:56 am

I try to explain myself better.
If I manually add a book, I have no problem at all, of course: I just add ISBN-13 in the ISBN field. But when I import a book I have to modify the field.
In the page for a book there is however a section "Identifiers", which cannot be edited. One of its fields is EAN, which is the same as ISBN-13 by design. If an automatic conversion were possible, both ISBN-10 and ISBN-13 would be present.

9MarthaJeanne
Editado: Jul 31, 2018, 10:21 am

Look on your book detail pages. They show both. https://www.librarything.com/work/21919245/details/157833382

10lorax
Jul 31, 2018, 10:44 am

.mau. (#8):

But when I import a book I have to modify the field.

Ah, well, I don't have any experience with import, I'm afraid; I only add books individually, either manually or from a source (usually a library, rarely Amazon). I know that "Universal Import" is quite limited, so you may want to consider individually adding books (from a source, not necessarily manually) so you get more flexibility.

11timspalding
Editado: Jul 31, 2018, 9:07 pm

May I also hope that it would somehow be possible to add both ISBN-10 and ISBN-13 in a record? (in different positions, of course) I often got stuck because I search for ISBN-13 and the book is catalogued with ISBN-10.

But… that should work. For example, you can search my library for either 0812996569 or 9780812996562. If the ISBN is an ISBN, it's stored in both formats for searching.

Try it in your catalog and let me know.

12.mau.
Ago 1, 2018, 3:27 am

>9 MarthaJeanne: D'oh! I never noticed it! (I should check better, I fear...)

13ianreads
Ago 1, 2018, 8:16 am

>11 timspalding: If the ISBN is an ISBN, it's stored in both formats for searching.

Is there any chance we could get a report/listing of ISBNs that aren't ISBNs in our catalog?