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1Pat_D
Editado: Nov 5, 2017, 1:34am

2Pat_D
Editado: Nov 5, 2017, 2:34am

I finished The Immortalists which I enjoyed, but it was not without some flaws. I never quite bought the whole fortune telling thing (what 7 yr. old even has a concept of death?), and I felt the author kind of lost her way with Daniel's plot. Despite those issues, I couldn't put the book down. Benjamin has that special, fluid storytelling thing that's difficult to articulate and signifies a special talent. She's very young and should only get better. I'll be checking out her next book.

I have several other open reads, but I have been looking high and low for a new holiday book to try and get myself in the mood. I usually pull out my big, beautiful The Annotated Christmas Carol along with the exceptional Broadview Press edition sometime in December, but I was looking for something different this year to kick-start the season. I decided to give Mr. Dickens and His Carol: A Novel a try. So far, it's merely pleasant, but I've only read about 30 pp.

3JulieCarter
Nov 5, 2017, 11:10am

I read The Sun is Also a Star by Nicola Yoon. I loved it, but it's not for everyone. It's YA (but the kids are 18, not 12), and it's basically a romance that also hits immigrant and 2nd generation immigrant lives in NYC, the expectations parents put on kids, etc. But from what I could tell on Goodreads, a lot of people just couldn't get past the romance. It's very much "instalove" as they keep calling it, but I was able to suspend my disbelief and really enjoy it.

I've been trying to read an Ann Rule book when I'm really tired and can't focus much. I read a lot of true crime, and it is pretty hard to find good ones. But Ann Rule is so revered, and I can never understand why when I try to read her books. I've never been able to finish one. She's a terrible writer! Everything is so repetitive and all over the place. There's no linearity at all, so I always get confused. It's like she just writes stuff as she's researching and learning it, but she has no idea how to put all the information into a cohesive narrative.

Then again, I was trying to start Less by Andrew Sean Greer, and it's kind of all over the place right now too. I didn't get too far. I've loved his other books, so I am just blaming my mood and how tired I was when I started it. I'll try again.

4alans
Nov 5, 2017, 2:57pm

Julie there is a new true crime I wanted to read called The Hot One are you familiar with that one?

5southernbooklady
Nov 7, 2017, 8:37am

I finished The Heart's Invisible Furies with mixed feelings.

Emotionally it's a wise and sad book, but plot-wise there was too much deus ex machina. The first couple times it was sort of furiously funny, but when it kept happening it began to throw me out of the narrativ. I stand by my original assessment: it is a compassionate and yet deeply angry story, full of heartbreak.

Now on to Darwin's Backyard and Her Body and Other Parties.

6laurenbufferd
Nov 7, 2017, 11:20am

I read the new Neel Mukerjee A State of Freedom with mixed emotions. The story is told in five linked sections that all take place in India and all have as their subjects, people who are trying to alter their destinies. I am still trying to wrap my mind around how they hang together - I'm not sure if they really do but there is something about the attempt that is very admirable. Two sections are told by adults returning to the India of their childhood and the other three are about Indians from small villages - one who goes to the city to be a housekeeper, one who leaves his village to train a dancing bear, and his brother who has left to do construction work.

In an interview, he said that this is his homage to Naipaul's In a Free State which also pushes how novels are constructed.

There is also a Henry James-ish feeling to the whole novel - like everything is being looked at obliquely and not straight on. At the same time, it feels more allegory than realism, despite the details of everyday life.

Caveat - horrible animal abuse and vivid description of goat sacrifice so if that's not your jam, avoid.

Thank god someone put a Delia Ephron novel in the FLL Siracusa.

I do have the Naipaul on reserve at the library.



7mkunruh
Nov 8, 2017, 11:42am

I'm reading The Power by Naomi Alderman because one of TAs lent it to me (bless her). It's good so far -- easy to read, short chapters with rotating characters and interesting way to explore power and gender, all bonuses. One of the positives of teaching a "super" section (160 students in a writing course) is that I get TAs, all of whom I adore. Lots of book and movie talk to go alongside marking and lesson planning.

I am also STILL listening to Jerusalem. It's far too long, and there are moments when I roll my eyes, one of the chapters in the middle section (Mansoul) is from the perspective of a 3 year old, and it drove me nuts. But overall, it has been worth the time spent (largely in the car to and from work). There is a good deal of interesting perspectives and I adore Alma (even though she represents Alan Moore). Moore's focus on Northampton is both the book's best part and its worst. With Northampton standing in for the world, it feels ethnocentric and provincial, but he's also passionate about his borough, Northhampton has an interesting role to play in British history and his awareness of the less represented people in Northhampton (the mad, the poor, and the uneducated) is keen.

My most recent, favorite passage is:

" can recall her own Spare Rib days in the 1970s and how she’d briefly entertained the idea that a woman leader might make all the difference. This had obviously been back in the early seventies. Her point is that despite the very real continuing abuses born of anti-Semitism, born of racism and sexism and homophobia, there are MPs and leaders who are female, Jewish, black or gay. There are none who are poor. There never have been, and there never will be. Every decade since society’s inception has been witness to a holocaust of paupers, so enormous and perpetual that it has become wallpaper, unnoticed, unreported. The mass graves at Dachau and at Auschwitz are, rightly, remembered and repeatedly deplored, but what about the one in Bunhill Fields that William Blake and his beloved Catherine were shovelled into? What about the one under the car park in Chalk Lane, across the road from Doddridge Church? What of the countless generations that have lived poor and have in one way or other died of that condition, uncommemorated and anonymous? Where are their fucking monuments and special ringed dates on the calendar? Where are their Spielberg films? Part of the problem is, no doubt, that poverty lacks a dramatic arc. From rags to rags to rags to rags to dust has never been an Oscar-winning formula."

8mkunruh
Nov 8, 2017, 11:45am


I'm reading The Power by Naomi Alderman because one of TAs lent it to me (bless her). It's good so far -- easy to read, short chapters with rotating characters and interesting way to explore power and gender, all bonuses. One of the positives of teaching a "super" section (160 students in a writing course) is that I get TAs, all of whom I adore. Lots of book and movie talk to go alongside marking and lesson planning.

I am also STILL listening to Jerusalem. It's far too long, and there are moments when I roll my eyes, one of the chapters in the middle section (Mansoul) is from the perspective of a 3 year old, and it drove me nuts. But overall, it has been worth the time spent. There are treasures and I adore Alma (even though she represents Alan Moore). Moore's focus on Northampton is both the book's best part and its worst. With Northampton standing in for the world, it feels ethnocentric and provincial, but Northhampton has played an interesting role in British history, so there's that and his awareness of the less represented people in Northhampton (the mad, the poor, and the uneducated) is keen.

My most recent, favorite passage is:

"Alma can recall her own Spare Rib days in the 1970s and how she’d briefly entertained the idea that a woman leader might make all the difference. This had obviously been back in the early seventies. Her point is that despite the very real continuing abuses born of anti-Semitism, born of racism and sexism and homophobia, there are MPs and leaders who are female, Jewish, black or gay. There are none who are poor. There never have been, and there never will be. Every decade since society’s inception has been witness to a holocaust of paupers, so enormous and perpetual that it has become wallpaper, unnoticed, unreported. The mass graves at Dachau and at Auschwitz are, rightly, remembered and repeatedly deplored, but what about the one in Bunhill Fields that William Blake and his beloved Catherine were shovelled into? What about the one under the car park in Chalk Lane, across the road from Doddridge Church? What of the countless generations that have lived poor and have in one way or other died of that condition, uncommemorated and anonymous? Where are their fucking monuments and special ringed dates on the calendar? Where are their Spielberg films? Part of the problem is, no doubt, that poverty lacks a dramatic arc. From rags to rags to rags to rags to dust has never been an Oscar-winning formula."

9lisapeet
Nov 10, 2017, 7:13pm

Jerusalem intimidated me, size-wise. A bunch of my coworkers were reading it but I wasn't tempted... but I like that graf you quoted, Mir.

I gobbled up John McPhee's Draft No. 4 last week. You might imagine that, as someone who writes all day, and therefore thinks about writing most of the day, I wouldn't want to spend my off hours thinking about writing more. But you'd be wrong. I really like reading books on craft, especially if they're crafty themselves, and this absolutely qualifies. I love McPhee's writing—he manages to be both playful and precise, with the one dependent on the other. It makes me happy as both a reader and a writer, and I love how he talks about it here, addressing both of those aspects and a few other things besides. I actually picked up a few tips along the way, too, which is always a welcome side effect of reading writers on writing.

Now I'm going to jump into Joe Ide's IQ, because I feel like something on the more genre-y end of the spectrum and I'm thinking about doing a piece on him for Bloom, so it'd be good to know if I like his writing first.

10laurenbufferd
Nov 11, 2017, 9:16am

I read Siracusa which is great if you are on a beach which I wasn't or if you are recovering from a book with a particularly vivid description of animal torture, which I was. It builds from a light comedy to kind of a creepy whodunit and I admired the change in pacing and mood.

Now reading VS Naipaul's In a Free State.

11LyddieO
Editado: Nov 12, 2017, 8:11pm

I finished a novel for older children, Refugee by Alan Gratz, recently, and absolutely loved it. It tells the stories of a 1938 Jewish family in Berlin, a 1994 Cuban family, and a 2015 Syrian family, all trying to escape their countries for safety. Rarely do I get so emotional about a story that I have to take a break, but it happened with this book a few times.

Now I'm reading The Dollhouse by Fiona Davis, which tells the stories of two women living in what was the Barbizon Hotel for Women, one in the 1950s and the other today. It's not high art, but perfectly enjoyable, so far.

12Kat.Warren
Nov 12, 2017, 4:23pm

Now reading:

A Very Close Conspiracy: Vanessa Bell and Virginia Woolf
by Jane Dunn
Link: http://a.co/fdzjJ4B

My favorite Naipauls:

Mr. Stone and the Knights Companion
by V. S. Naipaul
Link: http://a.co/fDwvuEP

A House for Mr. Biswas
by V.S. Naipaul
Link: http://a.co/iZApR15

A Bend in the River
by V.S. Naipaul
Link: http://a.co/0ezdjSs

Guerrillas
by V.S. Naipaul
Link: http://a.co/dlQ1UsV

13JulieCarter
Editado: Nov 13, 2017, 10:08am

Actually reading multiple things right now!
Hell House by Richard Matheson is terrible. I was talking about his books with someone else, and I just think he's not a very good writer. The story ideas are good, the execution is awful. This one is the same old story as many other haunted house books (especially The Haunting of Hill House), but there is a lot of misogyny in here. Maybe others wouldn't see it that way, but I'm not sure what else to call it. Antiquated views on women? The researcher's wife is a little mouse who almost had a nervous breakdown when her husband went out of town for 3 weeks, because she just doesn't know how to function without a man (even though she's probably actually a lesbian, but refuses to admit it). And the clairvoyant woman was just there to be the one who gets sexually assaulted constantly by ghost men. It's a terrible book.

I'm also reading Us Conductors, which is good. It reminds me a lot of a Gentleman in Moscow. My only problem with it is that it seems a little cold or something. A little standoffish? I am not sure how to describe what I mean right now (need coffee). I'm about halfway through, so hopefully I'll have more to say when I finish it.

I'm also listening to The Hate U Give, which is really good. But the audiobook was so highly recommended, I decided to try that rather than read the book. And there is so much yelling in this book! You listen to regular voice level for a while, and then there's screaming. It hurts my ears, so I wish I'd read the book.

14laurenbufferd
Editado: Nov 14, 2017, 11:24am

I loved US Conductors which was a gift from April for the Guardian Swap of 2014. I was fascinated by it. You can even go on youtube and see footage of Clara Rockwood, the lady theramin player which is worth the price of the internet, in my opinion.

Since I was reviewing the Mukherjee, I felt obligated to read the Naipaul In a Free Stateand I'm so glad I did. It really helped me understand what Mukherjee was going for stylistically and thematically and I thought it was cool that he created a dialogue with an older author. While I can't say I enjoyed the Naipaul - I just never do, I guess - I really admired it. The writing is just so distinct and beautiful but his characters leave me cold and I'm never entirely sure where he is coming from politically which makes me uncomfortable. He seems very very misanthropic. But I'm glad I read it and I'm glad to have the opportunity to review the Mukherjee. I find that sometimes when I like something less, the reviews are more rewarding to write.

I found Manhattan Beach at the library on the Lucky Day shelf and am reading it like a demon. It's my first Egan.

15Pat_D
Nov 15, 2017, 8:37am

Finished Mr. Dickens which was a disappointment. A book anyone with just a modicum of Dickens knowledge could have written.

Still looking for a good holiday/winter book before my yearly A Christmas Carol reread.

16JulieCarter
Editado: Nov 15, 2017, 11:45am

This is going to be my year to read Rock Crystal for a Christmas read. Although I may reread A Christmas Carol. It's so good!

Lauren, I'm liking Us Conductors more and more. I was reading the other day and actually ignoring the tv and my brother and my dog, who were all trying to get my attention. I don't think there was anything crazy exciting going on in the book, I was just mesmerized by it for some reason! I've always been curious about the theremin, and now I know a lot more than I did. I love looking at the real life pictures, so I will definitely check out the Youtube of Clara Rockwood! Edit: Clara Rockmore.

17AprilAdamson
Editado: Nov 16, 2017, 12:47am

I see we've moved.

I'm currently reading Alexander Hamilton by Ron Chernow for my local book group and The Weight of Ink by Rachel Kadish. I'm really enjoying both of them, but I need to spend more time on the Hamilton biography in order to make sure I get it read. And speaking of Hamilton, we scored two tickets to Hamilton in Seattle next March, and we didn't have to do a single thing. My sister-in-law went absolutely nuts and got two tickets to the Chicago production because they will be there in March. Then she got word that she was part of the lottery for tickets in Seattle. She scored four more tickets, so her good friend is taking her daughter, and DH and I will buy the other two.

I'm also listening to N.K. Jemisin's The Stone Sky, which is the third part of The Broken Earth trilogy. I noticed when listening to book two that I was missing some stuff, and now that I'm listening to book three I realize that some of threads are not connecting. I don't usually read fantasy, so listening to the audio book probably wasn't a wise choice. If I was reading the book I could look back and get back on track, but that doesn't work well with an audio book, and I have The Name of the Wind at something like 28 hours sitting in my Audible library. This does not bode well.

18Pat_D
Nov 16, 2017, 10:25am

As far back as middle school, I've been aware of the historical revisionism waged on Hamilton. I had to do a paper on him, and at the time it was very confusing. The library research I was doing conflicted with the general info we'd always been taught about him. IMO, it was the first largely successful "fake news" political campaign, and it severely affected my respect for Adams and Jefferson. This country would never have survived the Revolution had it not been for Hamilton's genius and experience. Ron Chernow's contribution to American History cannot be overstated. Too bad Eliza will never know.

Very jealous of all that have seen the play. Have a great time, April. Looking forward to your post play post.

19Kat.Warren
Nov 17, 2017, 3:52pm

A Cold Welcome: The Little Ice Age and Europe's Encounter with North America
by Sam White
Link: http://a.co/eQLj4Fa

20lisapeet
Nov 18, 2017, 8:48pm

Last week I read IQ, which I liked all right... the premise of a detective story set in the LA hood with a background of gangs and rappers is a good one, but it felt like it got a bit soft in the middle and lost the tight focus that would have kept this really sharp. Plus the characters seemed somewhat stereotypical, other than IQ himself—and he's a great creation, with good series potential. This one didn't quite grab me by the throat, though I'd probably read the sequel.

I enjoyed John McPhee's Draft No. 4: On the Writing Process so much I wanted to go back and revisit some of his essays, so I got The John McPhee Reader out of the library. I mentioned that he came to talk to my English class when I was in sixth grade, and I could swear that we all got copies of this book—I remember the cover of the first edition really clearly. And if that's true, what a cool collection to have 11- and 12-year-olds read.

I'm not sure if I'm going to go all the way to the end on this, since I have so much else calling my name, but it'll be fun to read at least a few. Started at the beginning with his profile of Princeton basketball star Bill Bradley, set mostly during his senior year in 1965. And I've gotta say, the man got me interested in the mechanics of basketball, so right there he's a damn good essayist.

21cindydavid4
Editado: Nov 19, 2017, 12:36am

>17 AprilAdamson: Plate of Shrimp, I was just coming here to say that the musical has really gotten me learning more about Hamilton. Been reading Chernow ,Gore Vidal's Burr and The hamilton affair listening to the soundtrack on repeat mode. Im now getting interested in learning more about the time period, so I am embarrassed to say that after 17 years I have finally gotten around to reading Founding Brothers. Which is just as well for I don't think I had enough background in american history at that time to appreciate it. Liking it quite a bit. So once I finish this, what do I read next?

Oh and April, thats so exciting! Its coming here in January; getting tickets is now impossible. Like Pat I am very jealous but really want to hear how you like it!

22southernbooklady
Nov 19, 2017, 7:10am

>21 cindydavid4: Just as McCullough's John Adams is a good companion to Ellis's His Excellency or Chernow's Washington, I'd pick Jon Meacham's Jefferson: The Art of Power as decent counterpoint to Chernow's Hamilton in that it gives a well-presented alternate take to the rivalry/antipathy that colored their interactions.

23cindydavid4
Editado: Nov 19, 2017, 10:07am

I have John Adams on my bookshelf but never read - think it might be time, esp given how he is treated in Chernow's book. I'd always heard good things about him so that rather turned my head around. Need to see a different view. (and no haven't seen the HBO series, that would probably help as well)

24southernbooklady
Nov 19, 2017, 10:37am

>23 cindydavid4: both books, McCullough's John Adams and Chernow's Hamilton, are explicitly revisioinist works.

25laurenbufferd
Editado: Nov 19, 2017, 2:26pm

I loved Manhattan Beach. It took me a while to get into it - there's a lot of details about docks and diving and machine work and mobsters and I admit to not always being a careful reader. And I wasn't expecting the kind of old fashioned big novel narrative, even though I'd read descriptions and reviews. But I ended up getting very invested in the story and the characters with several heart thumping, gut wrenching moments and a little crying. It really is a lovely powerful novel and a fun read too.

It's a good NY novel too, Lisa P.

26lisapeet
Nov 19, 2017, 5:13pm

>25 laurenbufferd: Oh, good. I have a friend at work who said she'd lend me her copy.

27laurenbufferd
Nov 19, 2017, 6:16pm

It's very curl up somewhere cozy and read book. I stayed up late and woke up early to finish.

28mkunruh
Nov 20, 2017, 11:44am

How did you feel about the ending Lauren? I was all starry eyed about the novel, but the ending didn't sit well. I dunno, maybe I wanted the novel to be something else?

29laurenbufferd
Nov 20, 2017, 11:50am

There were a few moments when you could feel the author's gears novel shifting and that was one of them. I wouldn't have minded a different ending - one too many reincarnations, if you get my drift. But ultimately, it was very a very satisfying novel.

30JulieCarter
Editado: Nov 21, 2017, 2:11pm

OK, I'm already pissed off today, but now....both Seattle and Phoenix are getting Hamilton before Dallas? WTF? We are not getting to see Hamilton until the 2018/2019 season! This sucks. I hate my life.

Ok, breathe (LOL)...I recently finished Us Conductors by Sean Michaels, which was excellent. I loved it and recommended it to my book club. So many people here would love it, and you've probably all already read it. I also finished The Hate U Give (audiobook) by Angie Thomas, and it was also excellent! I'm so excited to have really enjoyed reading both of them, and it's making me excited to find my next great read. Could the reading slump truly be over?? Let's hope so. edit OH yeah, I also finished The Sun is Also a Star and I loved that one too! It's a little romance-y, I guess, and YA. But I thought it was amazing, and I plan to read Yoon's first book, Everything, Everything.

I want to start reading The Fifth Season by N.K. Jemisin. Everyone's raving about the newest one, which I see April is reading (hi, reading twin!), but I just went to B&N and couldn't find any of the trilogy! What is up with that? I tried to find someone to help me, but in a giant B&N in a huge suburb right off a major freeway, there was one person at the cash register and one other employee in the entire store! So I was going to buy a bunch of books, but they suck, so Amazon it is! (Actually, I'm getting most of the books I wanted at the library. I need to start saving some money so I can buy a car without feeling guilty about it.)

Gosh, I just want to go home and crawl in bed (I also feel like I'm starting to get sick) and read for the rest of the day. I hate winter (HATE IT), but I love not feeling guilty for crawling in bed and doing nothing because it's cold. (To me, cold is anything under 65. It's Texas, y'all!)

>17 AprilAdamson: April, I listened to both the Rothfuss books (actually, I may not have finished the 2nd one), and I really didn't enjoy them. I have several friends who will start freaking out if you even bring up the series, because they loved it so much. I most definitely did not. We all listened to the audiobook, but it just didn't work for me. I hated the main female love interest and the most interesting parts of the story are left behind while they talk about this stupid guy in school and playing his lute and whatever the fuck. I have discovered that many of the longest fantasy series just don't work for me. They put everything and the kitchen sink into the story, and I just do not care. It gets SO boring to me. (Hyperion by Dan Simmons is another long-ass sci-fi one I really didn't like. Also audio, so maybe I just need to stay away from those audios! Also, Speaks the Nightbird by Robert McCammon. I do actually like some sci-fi and fantasy, just not all the trilogies of 1500 pages each book. Blech. Find a freaking editor!)

31alans
Nov 21, 2017, 2:59pm

A good friend of mine is cousins with Sean Michaels who wrote Us Conductors. she says he's the sweetest man possible and is also first cousin with the novelist and poet Anne Michaels who I believe wrote Fugitive Pieces.

32lisapeet
Editado: Nov 21, 2017, 9:19pm

I didn't know Sean Michaels was related to Anne Michaels. I read Fugitive Pieces exactly seven years ago, according to Goodreads, and found it really lyrical but a bit of a hot mess plotwise. Given to me by a street bookseller that I bought a lot from, and gave a lot of books to, if I recall right—it was something she really loved—but I didn't really. Marguerite... I wonder what ever happened to her. She was a nice person, sold on Broadway near 114th Street, outside Columbia.

I liked Us Conductors a lot.

I'm reading John McPhee writing about the New Jersey Pine Barrens in 1968 and wondering how changed they are since then. He describes them as wild and weird and relatively untouched—a quick look at Wiki says they're a protected area, but I don't know how much of the place's temperament, as a whole, remains. There was a time when that would have been an excuse for a road trip. But most definitely not right now.

33Pat_D
Nov 22, 2017, 9:45am

Insurance adjuster finally showed and gave the go-ahead, so I haven't had much time for reading, lately.

I managed to start We'll All Be Burnt in Our Beds Some Night thanks to Miriam's generosity. At first, I thought the SoC Johnny voice would lose its luster quickly, but before I knew it, I'd read 50pp. Also started The City of Brass. I like the story's premise, but I'm feeling a disconnect between the story and its modern prose. I don't expect every author to perfectly mimic 18th century writing, but it just feels off. Very, very early days with that one, so maybe the story will overcome that flaw.

34alans
Nov 22, 2017, 3:07pm

Sean and Anne Michaels are first cousins. Fugitive Pieces was made into a film that wasn't very successful. The novel was widely popular-but not loved by all.

35DG_Strong
Nov 22, 2017, 6:42pm

Fugitive Pieces was a Table Talk club book once and oh, I just couldn't with that book. It felt like strung-together affirmations or something. I should go look at it again, though, now that I am a millimeter more tolerant of that sort of thing now.

36mkunruh
Nov 23, 2017, 2:07pm

Nah, don't bother. I read it when it first came out and loved the first third but hated the last 2/3s. I suspect I'd feel differently now, but I have no idea if it would result in me hating the first 1/3 as well . . .

I just finished My Name is Lucy Barton and was surprised by how much I like it. Because of the thread on writing that moves its way through the book, it reminded me just a little of that bedbug book by the literary darling (whose name I'm blanking on right now). But Strout's book is so much better.

I'm also about half-way through Keeper 'N Me by Richard Wagameses. It's his first book and autobiographical, and a bit clunky at times, but am a fan of his approach and he's a generous and kind writer, so none of that is bothering much.

37alans
Nov 23, 2017, 3:28pm

Just finished reading Nights at Rizzoli by Felice Picano, It's a short book and Picano is pretencious as all hell, but it's a sweet story about his working in a classy book shop in New York in the seventies and he talks about culture and neighborhoods and the gay community at the time. The book is full of his name-dropping-most of the people he mentions he hardly knew, like Greta Garbo who
one day walked into the store-the store was high class and in the middle of Manhattan so is this a surprise? I've never read Picano before but I'd like to try more of his work, particularly his memoirs. He's just so full of himself it gets a bit much. But I love the stories of rotting New York-particularly the west village.

38AprilAdamson
Nov 23, 2017, 10:52pm

>30 JulieCarter: Ju;ie, I'm so glad you might be over your reading slump. Yippee! So glad you enjoyed Us Conductors; I really liked it, too. You have me worried about Name of the Wind. It has been sitting in my Audible library for years. I think I might need to stop listening to SF/F audiobooks.

39DG_Strong
Nov 25, 2017, 6:10pm

I usually finish up my year of reading in November -- December is always set aside for re-reads: A Christmas Carol, Rock Crystal, at least two of the Mapp & Lucia books --so I already have my best of list for the year. But at the last minute, I'm jamming in one more book, The Party. I bought it on a whim, knowing almost nothing, to reach a shipping discount threshold -- and it's a whopping good entertainment. It's a little Secret History (crime, lifetime bonds formed in school), Gone Girl (shifting narrators, none of whom I think are particularly reliable -- and also it thinks it's a little more literary than it really is) and, hmmm, something else, something Evelyn Waugh-ish. But oh gosh, it's just page turn page turn page turn page turn.

And it's mean, super mean, to almost all of its characters -- "like every conventional woman, Lucy likes to pretend she is unconventional by buying attention-seeking shoes." But maybe it's not mean. Maybe that's just the Englishness of it -- there's no soft spot anywhere, just brusque judgment and then on to the next thing.

40JulieCarter
Nov 27, 2017, 10:16am

The Party sounds a little like the recent season of Broadchurch.

41DG_Strong
Nov 27, 2017, 4:38pm

The jacket also mentions Highsmith, which it is not unlike. Will look at the recent Broadchurch. I only gave it the one season and then lost track.

42laurenbufferd
Editado: Nov 28, 2017, 11:20am

I'm so glad to see the Fugitive Pieces dislike. I found it a whole lot of nothing.

I'm reading Brass and people, I think this is going to be big. Such a unique voice and way funnier than it should be.

43lisapeet
Nov 28, 2017, 6:58am

>42 laurenbufferd: Ooh, that looks good.

I put down the McPhee reader because my hold came in on The Remains of the Day—which is the perfect book for right now. That almost pathological restraint coupled with the lovely, unfussy writing is just hitting all my reading pleasure points.

44cindydavid4
Nov 29, 2017, 10:04am

All Our Wrong Todays Love time travel books; just started this and like where I think its going. Will report back

45mkunruh
Nov 29, 2017, 10:01pm

We read that for bookclub this fall. I liked it, mostly.

46cindydavid4
Nov 30, 2017, 8:48am

Getting a little tired of him poor me schtick, but still reading.

47mkunruh
Nov 30, 2017, 10:03am

I felt the same, but I think it gets better.

48southernbooklady
Editado: Dic 3, 2017, 9:33am



Ran through Draft No. 4 yesterday. I think I'm going to give it to my brother for Christmas because there is so much in there about how McPhee finds, structures, and tells a story. I do wonder how the book would come across to anyone who hasn't read every single friggin' McPhee book like I have. I mean, I would read his shopping lists given the chance (a chance I was effectively given in the section that talks about his romance with the KEDIT text editor).

Weirdly enough, this is not a book I'd give to my mother, although mom and I happily discuss all of his books at the least provocation. But as lisapeet says above, this is a book about craft. Even when it is a book about his other books, it is a book about craft -- how he finds the structure inherent in a story, how he solves problems of elusive endings or mediocre ledes. How he navigates the editorial process and when he takes a stand, and when he doesn't. There's some historical interest in his various stories about writing the stories, of course. The man worked closely with William Shawn and Robert Gottlieb for most of his career, so how could there not be? But the "memoir" aspect of the book is always in service to the discussions of the craft, which is something I found I appreciated. It's not a "how to write" book, but it is very much a "how John McPhee writes a book"book -- which is far better.

49laurenbufferd
Dic 5, 2017, 11:31am

Brass was very good. It's not the story that is so interesting- it's kind of been told before - young waitress gets knocked up by Albanian cook in blue collar town and goes on to raise the child by herself - fast forward 17 years, kid decides to seek out father - it's really the voice of the daughter that feels fresh and new, wise-cracking and a little self-deprecating but you can feel the hurt and the need as well. Her story also opens with her not getting the college of her choice.

Highly recommend.

50Kat.Warren
Editado: Dic 6, 2017, 3:54am

The Ninth Hour by Alice McDermott

Heads up, ladies -- nuns!

51Kat.Warren
Editado: Dic 6, 2017, 3:55am

Este mensaje fue borrado por su autor.

52LuRits
Dic 7, 2017, 6:37am

Nuns! It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas.

53laurenbufferd
Dic 8, 2017, 10:49am

I finished two books The Cake and the Rain and a new novel called Sadness is a White Bird.

I had low expectations of the Jimmy Webb but I do like one or two celebrity memoirs per year and it was an ok one. It's well written, if a little purple in places, and the bits about his childhood were really interesting - his parents were very young when they married and once his father found Jesus in a big way, moved the family from place to place as an itinerant preacher. With the amount of drug use, I'm surprised if he remembers anything from the festival at Monterey and I lost track of what girl he was in love with when. I don't know what it says about me that my favorite parts were about the unhealthy rat pack he formed with Harry Nillsson. John Lennon comes off very poorly. Less Glen Campbell then you'd think.

I am reviewing the novel so I need to time to think more about it. It's about a year in the life of a young man before he goes into the Israeli army and what factors in to his decision not to serve. The author's own story follows the fictional one quite closely. American family that's emigrated to Israel, Zionist bent, son eager to join the army but also becomes politicized to the Palestinian situation, choses not to serve, and goes to jail. As a novel, it's a bit on the melodramatic side - it's written as a letter to another man with whom the narrator has a passionate friendship. But it goes a long way toward hinting at how complex the situation in Israel is and the kind of activism that exists there that Americans don't see much of. Certainly interesting stuff.

The title is taken from a Darwish poem and there is quite a bit of poetry quoted throughout the novel.

54laurenbufferd
Editado: Dic 17, 2017, 4:54pm

I started reading the Atul Gawande and it's so extraordinary helpful, I wish I'd read it years ago - not just about aging and quality of life but gerontologists and choices when it comes to assisted living. It's put about 10 things about life with my mother-in-law in perspective and given me things to look out for as my parents navigate their 80s. Very very helpful - also beautiful written with tons of empathy and clarity.

Thanks to Lisa P passing on my first but not last Charles Baxter - as I was reading the stories, I had the sensation that this was the beginning of a beautiful relationship. I liked the first half of the book better - for me, the 'vice' stories felt more labored over or rather, I could see the author's hand in them mucking about. But the book still had me oohing and aahing and tearing up.

Thanks to Lisa, I am also reading The Hearts of Men. I was skeptical - 3 decades worth of boy scout troop leaders, knot tying, and whatnot, but man, I got sucked in right away. I think some of it is the setting - Eau Claire, Wisconsin. I like a good Midwestern novel.

Yesterday, I read Teju Cole's Every Day is for the Thief. I wasn't sure if I would like it, I had some qualms about Open City and there's a part of me that just doesn't get what the fuss is about him. He's a bit of a media darling for white people. It;'s one of those books that doesn't quite seem like fiction or memoir - a young man returns to Lagos after being away for many years, highly critical of Nigerian politics, sees friends and family, searches for glimpses of high culture and African history, returns to the US. There are oddly grainy floaty photographs that accompany the text. Despite my reservations, I enjoyed this very much - it's very readable and, in part, quite beautiful, the importance of family and identity, the choice of self-exile and sensibility are fully explored. And you can read it in a day.


55laurenbufferd
Dic 21, 2017, 10:55am

I liked The Hearts of Men which was about the death of a certain kind of goodness, I thought. It's a lot of Wisconsin! and the villain is such a baddie, you know it from the moment he shows up, but the description of the landscapes and little towns were right on. I'd nenver have picked this up for myself, so thank you Lisa.

I think you might have given me Mean which I started last night (clearly, I'm working off a stack piled near my bed. It's a memoir by the artist Myriam Gurba and it's acerbic and funny and horrifying all at the same time.

56lynn_r
Editado: Dic 21, 2017, 1:37pm

57Kat.Warren
Editado: Dic 22, 2017, 1:37am

Improvement by Joan Silber

Wow, this is GOOD.

58DG_Strong
Dic 22, 2017, 5:13pm

I love it I love it I love it; it was my #1 of the year.

59laurenbufferd
Dic 22, 2017, 5:52pm

Somehow that was not on my radar.

I have been home with stomach bug and so sleeping a lot but also thanking the goddess for TCM. But I finished Mean which was a cool surprise in all kinds of ways. It's certainly the funniest memoir about sexual assault I've ever read. She draws from such a wide net and it's both cultural and personal, full of bad puns and a thousand little piercing details.

I started Here comes the Sun which Kat sent me - which won all kinds of prizes last year - it's the story of a poor family in rural Jamaica, the mother has a crafts stall where she sells to tourists, the older sister works in a fancy resort and the two ladies' hopes and dreams are pinned on to the younger sister who is enrolled in a private school. The older sister was pimped out by the mother when she was a teen and sex work is still a part of her life as is the affair she begins with a lady neighbor. This all in fiercely anti-gay Jamaica. It's a very accomplished first novel so far.

60Kat.Warren
Dic 22, 2017, 6:42pm

It's a tie on my list for #1: Improvement -- Golden Hill.

This year my list is pitifully attenuated.

61cindydavid4
Dic 22, 2017, 9:44pm

>58 DG_Strong: I had some problems with it - the switch to new characters was rather jolting - that being said I might not say its #1 but its certainly in my top 10

62LuRits
Editado: Dic 23, 2017, 1:18pm

I’m hoping this one is under the tree right now. I dropped enough hints! (Referencing the Silber)

63lisapeet
Dic 24, 2017, 8:45am

That's definitely going on my list.

Last week I read The Best American Short Stories 2017, an interesting mix this year. While I liked Meg Wolitzer's intro on reading short fiction in the age of Trump, she didn't get to what struck me as most notable in the collection, which is that so many of the stories had sexual power plays at their center. Particularly interesting given the huge buzz around "Cat People," Kristen Roupenian's recent piece in the New Yorker, which was all about that—sex, but not so much the sex itself as the power dynamics, how those sands continuously shift between two people. I wonder if it isn’t tapping into a certain zeitgeist right now—granted, the stories in BASS were all written in 2016, before Trump took office and this year's outcry against sexual abusers, but if you want to see culture as a barometer for the times (sometimes I do and sometimes I don't), these issues have been simmering.

Anyway, a low-key but mainly good batch. Standouts for me were "Richard of York Gave Battle in Vain," "Ugly," "Gabe Dove," "Last Day on Earth," "Gender Studies." No one who's reviewed this seemed to like Jim Shepard's longish "Telemachus," but it has the best last-paragraph payoff of them all. I'm tempted to see how many of the Other Distinguished Stories listed in the back I can find, to see what else turned up on the editors' radar.

Right now reading a big handsome book for review, America's Greatest Library: An Illustrated History of the Library of Congress by John Y. Cole. Apparently I'm the go-to reviewer at LJ for Library of Congress stuff, which makes me very happy. This one's almost coffee-table sized, and lovely.

64lisapeet
Dic 25, 2017, 9:51am

Oh and I forgot, my library hold on Fasting and Feasting: The Life of Visionary Food Writer Patience Gray came in, so I just started that. A friend recently read it and raved about it, and as my own eating/cooking habits get ever more circumscribed (sadly), it's at least fun to read about the folks who made that their life's work.

65LuRits
Dic 25, 2017, 9:39pm

I almost ordered that one for you.

66AprilAdamson
Dic 25, 2017, 10:59pm

I've just started The Lonely Hearts Hotel. I wonder where this is going.

67laurenbufferd
Dic 26, 2017, 10:14am

I hope everyone had a wonderful holiday. I accrued a few more books.

I finished Here Comes the Sun. It's a very impressive piece of fiction and I thought it was quite good, esp for a first novel. But I found it a little on the melodramatic side - I wouldn't have minded the plot turned down a notch or two. Still, it's an important look at Jamaican culture - the misogyny and intensely anti-gayness that also shows up on Marlon James' novels. I will be following this author.

Another Kat book from the pile The Fifth Servant has been a great diversion.

68LuRits
Dic 26, 2017, 10:21am

I’m reading Killers Of the Flower Moon, our January book club selection, and so far it’s really pulling me in. After that I don’t know, because I have such a juicy pile of Christmas selections!

69laurenbufferd
Dic 26, 2017, 11:34am

I really want to read that!!

70alans
Dic 26, 2017, 11:56am

I started Galveston which was written by the dude who created True Detective. I heard the book got raves and I love crime fiction and noir(god bless you TCM). So far I like it but I’m a little wary of where the book is heading with this sly,very young vamp character who so far could have been perfectly played decades ago by a very young Jodie Foster. Have to wait and see.

71cindydavid4
Dic 26, 2017, 2:34pm

now reading Way Station which is an excellent story from 1963, won a Hugo. Never heard of the author will need to find out what else he wrote

72lisapeet
Editado: Dic 26, 2017, 3:14pm

>65 LuRits: You know, LuAnn, it crossed my mind that that was a book you might have gotten me—so when my hold came in I actually went and picked up the book but then didn't start it, on the off chance that I might have my own copy coming and would then have just returned the library's copy. I tell ya, there's nothing like doing a book swap to make you very aware of your book instant-gratification habits. I don't click to buy, generally, but I've got a pretty impulsive trigger finger when it comes to library holds.

It's a good book, so far. What a life!

Killers of the Flower Moon was really interesting, in an awful way—plus thinking about Grann's journalistic/authorial choices. So many nonfiction writers want to remain invisible and he definitely steps up and lets you see what he was doing all along the way (though you have to get all the way through the first two parts of the book before he really pulls the curtain back).

73Kat.Warren
Editado: Dic 26, 2017, 4:29pm

"Fasting and Feasting" was in the Guardian mix I sent DG.

74lynn_r
Editado: Dic 28, 2017, 11:39pm

This is a big thumb’s up for the usual suspects here. I just read an ARC of I Am, I Am, I Am: Seventeen Brushes with Death by Maggie O’Farrell.

I’ve read all (I think) of her novels but this one is a memoir. It’s really different - it’s divided into chapters about the 17 times she felt she was close to death and each chapter is entitled and illustrated by a body part which relates to the chapter. Hard to explain it but it’s really good and it’s not till the end you understand why some of her experiences were so harrowing to her.

You can read this in one sitting, easy-peasy.

(Edited for links.)

75cindydavid4
Dic 28, 2017, 11:50pm

oh I forgot that was coming out, thanks for the reminder! So glad its so good. Looking forward to reading it.

76lisapeet
Editado: Dic 31, 2017, 8:39am

>74 lynn_r: I'm very hot to read that one, Lynn. Heard good things about it.

77laurenbufferd
Ene 1, 2018, 10:41pm

I have on more chapter of Being mortal which has been hugely informative and helpful. I highly recommend it to everyone really, because even if you aren't dealing with elderly or ill parents or partners, you yourself will be one or both of those things and you will need a way to think about what you want and the quality of your life. And it's beautifully written.

I am also reading The Parking Lot Attendant and it's just awful. I'm no dummy, but I can't make heads or tails of it. It's about a young Ethiopian woman who lives in Boston who falls under the spell of a charismatic older man who manages an outdoor lot downtown. There's ,mich mystery and comings and goings and nothing seems realistic but it'snot quite a fantasy either and by the end, everyone's on this Utopian community on a west Indian Island - god, it's dreadful.

At first I thought maybe it was me - that I had a certain expectation of the story, especially because the writer was Ethiopian and perhaps I wanted a more typical novel of immigrant life. But I really think it was the book.

78southernbooklady
Editado: Ene 2, 2018, 9:08am

>77 laurenbufferd: Oh lord, The Parking Lot Attendant is next on my list -- I knew signing back up for that early reviewer service was a mistake!

ETA: I dived into Her Body and Other Parties this past weekend and whoa, it is intense.

79laurenbufferd
Editado: Ene 2, 2018, 11:25am

>> 78 southernbooklady, I want you to read it and tell me all the reasons why I am wrong! I am completely mystified.

I'm going to read some Grace Paley today just to get my head on straight.

80JulieCarter
Ene 2, 2018, 2:56pm

I've had some library books that I've been trying to get through. I finished Otherworld by Jason Segal, and talk about a cliffhanger. It literally just stops, which is something I really, really hate. "Tune in next book to find out what happens! Same bat time, same bat channel!" F you, man. It wasn't really good enough that I'm certain I'll even bother with continuing once the next book comes out. Now, I'm almost done with The Fifth Season by N.K. Jemisin. I saw so many "best book of the year" things about the 3rd book in the trilogy, this year's The Stone Sky, that I decided to go back and read this first one. This one is not for babies. By that I mean that nothing is hand-fed to you. You're just put in the world, and you have to figure everything out, from the words they use to the powers certain people have to who is (or isn't) who. It's certainly disorienting if you've been reading books for dumb people lately, like I have. But that's probably part of why people love it so much, too.

But now that I'm about done with that book, I'm going to return the rest of the library books and try to read some of the gifts sent to me by Ms. Lauren (all right on my bedside table!) or some of the many, many, many books I bought over the last few years. It's ridiculous, really, especially all the stuff I've bought for my Kindle. I'm also trying to read some more serious stuff this year, from nonfiction on science and history and philosophy to whatever will help me "figure out who I am" kinda stuff. I've been thinking about what makes me happy and unhappy in life, and a life lived watching tv and never using my brain is not the way for me. So I'll hopefully get better about that, and I'll discover some great writing! I wish you all (and myself) happy reading in 2018!

81Nancy_Sirvent
Ene 3, 2018, 4:33pm

I'm happy to say that I have kept my resolution for 3 whole days. I'm now reading THE POWER* by Naomi Alderman and loving it.

https://www.amazon.com/Power-Naomi-Alderman/dp/0316547611/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp...

*I should make another late resolution to re-learn how to link.

82Kat.Warren
Editado: Ene 3, 2018, 5:52pm

Hmmm. I did not love The Power. Got through 2/3s of it and just did not care how it ended.

83cindydavid4
Ene 4, 2018, 8:02pm

Now reading Best Non-required Reading of 2017. If you read any thing in this book, you absolutely must read 'A Fable' by Teju Cole'

I was turned on to this young mans writing this summer; I am eager to read anything he writes.

84Kat.Warren
Ene 5, 2018, 6:03pm

Gods Fury Englands Fire: A New History Of The English Civil War
by Michael Braddick
Link: http://a.co/byTDRei

85DG_Strong
Ene 5, 2018, 9:05pm

I just had a good three days of reading, Guardian-list related. One of the yammerers on there mentioned Speakers of the Dead and I liked that okay, I like the idea of an ongoing series with Walt Whitman as the detective. We'll see, though -- there's not a ton that seems particularly Whitmanesque about him. It could have just as well been Tom White, detective.

Then I read Appointment in Arezzo: A Friendship with Muriel Spark, an official book swap gift from Kat, and it's really wonderful. It's all late-life Spark, from 1990 on, and she's funny and surprising. There's a a great sequence when she revisits Manhattan for a New Yorker magazine anniversary and goes to the Metropolitan Museum in a wheelchair and while in line outside, a museum liaison comes out and asks if she's Muriel Spark (tipped off in advance by the New Yorker staff) and whisks her into the museum and asks her what she wants to see and Spark says "the shop."

86Kat.Warren
Ene 5, 2018, 9:13pm

"the shop."

Perfection.

87laurenbufferd
Ene 10, 2018, 11:25am

Yay! That sounds great.

I had a quick trip east to check on parents and see a few friends. And in a snowstorm, no less. I only read on the plane and that's when I wasn't sleeping. One mystery there and one back - Antonia Fraser's Oxford Blood WITH A MEDDLING NUN! and Frances Fyfeld's Shadow Play which I really liked.

I am reading the new Aminatta Forna novel Happiness and it's so radically different than anything she's written before, I am baffled but persevering.

88Kat.Warren
Ene 10, 2018, 6:02pm

The Schooldays of Jesus: A Novel
by J. M. Coetzee
Link: http://a.co/cCLbd7M

89lisapeet
Ene 11, 2018, 5:50pm

I finished Fasting and Feasting: The Life of Visionary Food Writer Patience Gray, which felt like it took a long time but that's maybe because I was home for a week and a half and not commuting, which is when I do most of my reading. What an interesting life she had, and a piece of food writing history that I wasn't aware of. Gray sounds like a real piece of work, and to Federman's credit he lets you read between the lines when it comes to her persona and never pushes an opinion. In a way that light touch makes this a flatter biography than it could have been, but I like the room for ambiguity around what kind of person she was as reflected by the truly hardcore lifestyle she and her partner adopted in the name of art and authenticity. She writes of "doing so may things a liberated woman should never do," yet her pursuit of her life's work—cooking, gardening/farming, writing about food, jewelry-making—was totally fierce and not in the least feminized. She's a cool character.

The image of figs falling on the breakfast table from the overhead tree ("Those were the best figs I ever had," Harold McGee said) was wonderful. And I'm sorry, I do love the women's names here—Patience, Primrose, Amaryllis, and two copy editors (who worked for the same person at different times) named Candida Brazil and Indonea Muggeridge.

Now I'm reading Mary Beard's Women & Power: A Manifesto for a pop-up book club a friend put together just for that book. I don't know if it's going to be an ongoing book club or anything—I'm kind of resistant to them—but this should make for an interesting conversation. Also started What It Means When a Man Falls from the Sky because I had a library hold come in... I'm only about two stories in and I get the feeling these are a whole-collection kind of thing. I mean so far so good but I'm interested to see how they all stack up.

90lisapeet
Ene 13, 2018, 7:21am

Finished Women & Power: A Manifesto, which was really a one-sitting book. It's the transcription of two talks she gave for London Review of Books lecture series at the British Museum in 2014 and early 2017, so the book is short and compelling—kind of a stub, really, a conversation and train-of-thought starter rather than a fully realized treatise. Manifesto's a good word, because it's a jumping-off point, and I do hope it inspires a lot of discussions, book clubs, etc. She's brilliant, and a great speaker—a good accompaniment to the book is the NY Times Book Review podcast she did about it.

The pop-up book club my friend organized around the book is tomorrow, and I'm looking forward to that. She has lots of smart and interesting friends from all sorts of walks of life, so it's definitely not going to be boring (a few are my friends already, and it'll be great to see them too). Will report back.

91cindydavid4
Editado: Ene 13, 2018, 7:23pm

Excuse all the posts just playing catch up

>18 Pat_D: As far back as middle school, I've been aware of the historical revisionism waged on Hamilton. I had to do a paper on him, and at the time it was very confusing. The library research I was doing conflicted with the general info we'd always been taught about him. IMO, it was the first largely successful "fake news" political campaign, and it severely affected my respect for Adams and Jefferson.

I never really paid much attention - I knew about the duel but since I wasn't all that interested in US history most of the fake news passed me by. But by the time I read more and learned more, like you my respect for Adams and Jefferson really diminished (well it did a bit anyway for the latter given the news of him the last few years)

92cindydavid4
Editado: Ene 13, 2018, 7:31pm

>17 AprilAdamson: Im going to see Hamiton!! Tickets went on sale the beginning of Dec and didn't matter how much or how fast I tried to get it, it was no use. So I resigned myself to just listening to the soundtrack all month. Then at our staff christmas party I was given an invitation "for $94 come with us to see (7 spaces.)" Was told I needed to do a hunt to get the clues. I rolled my eyes but went along with it coz these are my colleagues and friends By the time I got H A M I started screaming and jumping - one of the teachers nabbed two tickets in in the handicapped section (she is on a knee scooter), and the computer suggested that she by a third to finish the row. She did, and was trying to think of who esle to ask and remembered how badly I wanted to go and voila! Lots of fun (and the tics were $94. Think I am buying them dinner....)

93cindydavid4
Editado: Ene 13, 2018, 7:24pm

>47 mkunruh: No, it didn't. In the trade pile it goes

Finally reading Manhattan Beach which is exellent. Ive read Goon Squad ages ago, and many of her short stories here and there - always enjoyed her writning. Enjoying this one as well

94cindydavid4
Editado: Ene 13, 2018, 7:32pm

>54 laurenbufferd: Read Open City and really liked it, also another one by him name escapes me. Also if you get a chance to pick up Best Non Required Reading 2017, read his story the first one The Fable. A story of our time,sadly

He's a bit of a media darling for white people.

I think comments like this are belittling, and making it sound like he is not deserving of praise. And a bit snarky to those who sincerely like his work. Can you explain more what you mean?

95Kat.Warren
Editado: Ene 13, 2018, 8:22pm

It's shorthand for media darling for white people.

96DG_Strong
Ene 14, 2018, 8:47am

WELL, I LAUGHED

97DG_Strong
Ene 14, 2018, 8:53am

Meanwhile! I've been dipping my toes around a bit, trying to find the right couple of books to take for a week in Mexico (come ON Jan 23) so every time I start something and it seems good-to-goodish, I hold off and put in the Possible for Mexico pile, so now I have like eleven books in that stack, which isn't really helping (I need two AT MOST). I'm aiming for one short novel and one book of stories so I thiiiink it's gonna be My Antonia and You'll Enjoy It When You Get There: The Stories of Elizabeth Taylor though They Shoot Horses, Don't They is coming up on the outside.

98southernbooklady
Ene 14, 2018, 8:59am

>94 cindydavid4: Can you explain more what you mean?

Ta-Nahisi Coates gets this comment all the time. James Baldwin used to get it as well. My impression is that it refers to black writers who can write about race issues without scaring the pants off white people.

99lisapeet
Editado: Ene 14, 2018, 11:01am

>94 cindydavid4: And also he's African but at the same time very safely American (born in the U.S. to Nigerian parents, raised at least part of his life in Nigeria, but a New Yorker now). In the same way that some people want to read non-U.S. writers but aren't comfortable with work in translation, or films with subtitles, or just explicitly "foreign" work, etc.

100southernbooklady
Ene 14, 2018, 11:13am

>99 lisapeet: In the same way that some people want to read non-U.S. writers but aren't comfortable with work in translation, or films with subtitles, or just explicitly "foreign" work, etc.

I'm enjoying all the "Writers from S##thole Countries" lists and displays people are posting:

Rough Draft in Kingston, NY

Electric Literature

101laurenbufferd
Ene 14, 2018, 2:16pm

DG, I would definitely read The Power and the Glory and some of Katherine Anne's Porter's stories.

I was really flummoxed by Aminatta Forna's new novel Happiness in which nothing much happens but there are a lot of words!

Then I got sick so have been reading You will Know Me which is creepy but fun. Badly written though. All those short choppy non-sentences. And it's a bit Gone Girl or Girl on the Train because if you have a brain you can figure out exactly whodunnit. The girl gymnast setting does give it an extra layer of 'ick' though.

102alans
Editado: Ene 14, 2018, 9:17pm

Finished yesterday Deadline-The White House which is by that controversial journalist Helen Thomas. I’m crazy for journalists and their trade which is why I enjoyed the Post so much. A lot of the book is interesting,she starts with JFK and finished with Jerry Ford,and her stories about the presidents are interesting,each one according to her was addicted to some form of medication except for Ford,but his wife took care of that for him,but too much of the book is this old school girlie stuff,like what Julie Nixon wore to her wedding and how Johnson liked to fox trot. She spends an inane amount of pages on hairdoes and gowns and yet she was a pioneer female journalist. I guess that was expected of the girl reporters who covered the White House back then. It is endless the amount of times she comments on runs in her stockings chasing presidents across the White House lawn. Just very strange.

103cindydavid4
Editado: Ene 14, 2018, 10:23pm

>102 alans: I always had such admiration and respect for her, still do (and loved her skit she did with Colbert at the White House Correspondence Dinner) but was really shocked by the anti semetic comments she made late in her life. It really put me off - but I think about how she was able to get where she was, and still manage to admire her.

>98 southernbooklady: >99 lisapeet: >100 southernbooklady: thank you ladies for helping me understand the troublesome phrase That does make more sense to me, tho Id like to think that my enjoyment of his writing is because he has a different outlook than other African authors I have read. Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie is another author I admire for her writing, for the same reason.

104Kat.Warren
Ene 15, 2018, 9:39pm

Medical Apartheid: The Dark History of Medical Experimentation on Black Americans from Colonial Times to the Present
by Harriet A. Washington
Link: http://a.co/9Krsbua

105alans
Ene 16, 2018, 2:55pm

Cindy-I looked up information on you tube about the controversial Helen Thomas statement and you can actually find the exact interview where she makes the unfortunate remarks. It was a stupid thing to say and I think she later regretted it-or at least regretted the backlash which I guess isn't the same thing. It was very sad because she served for fifty years and then she made that comment and she had to quit, and then she died not long after that. She really was a pioneer and she writes very sympathetically about the White House and the job within. What she would think about The Donald just fazes me. I hope to read her second memoir at some point.

106JulieCarter
Editado: Ene 17, 2018, 12:11pm

Just finished the audiobook of The Force by Don Winslow. The story is really interesting, and I learned some things about upper Manhattan and about how police work (it's fiction, I know). But the writing. OMG. I felt like Winslow was just trying to prove what a MAN he is by not using any frilly language. Like, you know, other ways to say, "He said." I think it was far more annoying because it was audio, and when reading, you kind of just flow past that stuff. But there would be times where the language would be: "Yes," Malone said. "It was during the drug bust," she said. "Baxter wasn't part of that," Timmy said. "We'll get him anyway," she said. --Ad nauseam! (Dialogue made up for entertainment purposes only.) Still, I liked it enough that I snatched up the audiobook of The Cartel when it was cheap. Different narrator, so I'm trying to get used to it now.

I'm too focused on my upcoming trip to read much right now. Trying to read Who Fears Death by Nnedi Okorafor for book club right after I get back.

107cindydavid4
Editado: Ene 18, 2018, 8:07am

>105 alans: It was very sad because she served for fifty years and then she made that comment and she had to quit, and then she died not long after that.

Perhaps age and what goes with it was the cause of the comment if so I sympathize with her. It just took me aback so much that it ended up coloring what I thought of her. You are right its very sad.

As far as her reaction to Trump - I'd bet had she been alive, she would have been constantly on the attack, until he just quit. Unfortunately there aren't many others who had the balls and guts to do that. She more likely did.

108Kat.Warren
Editado: Ene 17, 2018, 11:16pm

Julie, I've read several by Don Wiinslow -- muy macho stuff.

109laurenbufferd
Ene 18, 2018, 10:05am

Kat, have you read The Woman Next Door? If not, I will send. It's a tad underbaked but in many ways entertaining and provocative. Two older women who are neighbors and frenemies in a wealthy Capetown suburb have to find a way to live together after an accident renders one reliant on crutches and the other without a home.

I'd be glad to send it.

110lisapeet
Ene 20, 2018, 12:08am

I just read What It Means When a Man Falls From the Sky, which is a terrific debut—inventive and varied in form but still cohesive, no doubt because Arimah's voice is really strong, but without the stories sounding at all alike. These are all dark but they're not ponderous, and she brings out elements of magic, myth, and sf in really inventive ways that won't make non-fans of those genres wince. I didn't, anyway, though I'm not quite a non-fan—but I am an easy wincer, and I thought Arimah pulled off the variety in this collection admirably. I'll definitely pick up whatever she comes out with next.

Now reading Joan Silber's Improvement, as per recommendations from all you fine folks (and because I loved Fools).

111laurenbufferd
Ene 21, 2018, 5:30pm

Reading A Loving Faithful Animal. Lisa P, did you give me this? Sad sack family in Australia, each chapter told by a different family member, father is a Vietnam vet? It could be misery porn but sheesh, the writing is heavenly.

112lisapeet
Ene 21, 2018, 6:24pm

I did—haven't read it yet myself, but I had an extra copy and it looked like maybe your kinda thing.

I'm also very sad to report I never did make it to that book club I was so looking forward to. I lost Saturday of the long weekend to a broken washer-dryer (shopping for a new one, mostly, and then having a long earnest discussion as to whether we should just get the old one fixed for the fourth time in three years so we wouldn't be making such a big-ticket purchase with our backs against the wall, which ultimately won out—still, all that appliance drama and we're still married), Monday was for visiting my mom in the nursing home because my sister couldn't, and I had brought home a boatload of work, so... I stayed home and worked. Which was a shitty choice, trading fun for the lack of anxiety all the following week, but it was probably the right one. And there will be more of these book clubs. But my inner literary child was pissed off. I have no life.

113Kat.Warren
Editado: Ene 21, 2018, 9:08pm

I'm not even working a wage job, ostensibly retired am I, and i know all about thst "I have no life" thing. My condolences, Lisa.

114SP_Rankin
Editado: Ene 21, 2018, 8:45pm

Last week, I read France Is a Feast, about Paul and Julia Child’s years in France in the 1950s. It’s about 1/3 text and 2/3 Paul’s photos, and it’s wonderful on both counts. He had a beautiful eye, and was deeply educated and connected to everything and everyone. He should be much more famous than he is. For example, Edward Steichen chose six of his photographs to send to the Met. I really jibed with the way he looked at the world. I’m not sure they make men like him any more.

All that being said, of course it’s the pictures of Julia (including one arty nude) that are the most engaging. She was just such a presence, and you can’t help but be a little thrilled to see her cooking in their shitty little Paris kitchen or striding around the Alps or somewhere.

Anyway, it’s tons of fun, and will make you want to sign up for some sort of class or something or renew your passport or wear a beret or espadrilles or striped bateau neck shirt. Maybe all of that at once!

115laurenbufferd
Ene 21, 2018, 9:55pm

I think it was in My Life in France where Child and her sister would get gussied up for some fancy dinner, look in the mirror and say something like - 'well, that's as good as it's going to get' and sally forth.

I adopted that very thing. Works wonders.

116southernbooklady
Ene 21, 2018, 10:16pm

My "that's as good as it's going to get" gets less and less every year.

117lisapeet
Ene 22, 2018, 6:44am

>113 Kat.Warren: Thank you, dear Kat. And of course that's a lot hyperbole on my part... I do have a life, just not always when I want it.

>115 laurenbufferd: >116 southernbooklady: I just keep setting the bar lower on that one and buying better clothes the older I get.

118cindydavid4
Editado: Ene 22, 2018, 8:37am

>Loved My Life in France; will have to check France is a Feast as well. I loved how Paul was played in the Julia/Julia movie by Stanel Tucci, and would love to see his photographs.

119aussieh
Ene 23, 2018, 5:37am

>111 laurenbufferd: I am following up on your mention of A Loving Faithful Animal

120cindydavid4
Ene 23, 2018, 8:50am

Now reading A Dairymaid Travels the World by Anna of moldnúpur. This is the book I discovered here on LT, and found it for saile at a hotel of the authors name in Iceland! Just arrived yesterday and am quite enjoying it!

Also just received Frost Fairs, another discovered here, about a murder that takes place during one of the times the Thames froze over, in 1666. Looks very interesting.

121laurenbufferd
Ene 23, 2018, 3:36pm

I loved loved LOVED A Faithful Loving Animal. Everyone should read it.

Reading the new Wolitzer and feeling lucky.

122lisapeet
Ene 24, 2018, 11:01pm

121> Oh good.

I finished Improvement and now I'm really glad I traded my library copy for an ebook. I loved it—it was delightful, and a little profound but not obsessively so. Actually it made me think of Prezi—remember that, the presentation software that everybody wanted to play with a few years back because they were so sick of Powerpoint, how you could make it swoop in and out and go from macro to micro and back again? I hated Prezi, it made me dizzy. But this book is what Prezi wishes it could be. Silber uses these beautiful little declarative sentences to paint a whole mural, and it's just neat how she does it—plus entertaining and very sweet. This is a morally decent novel and god knows we need more of those right now.

Now I'm reading Edwidge Danticat's The Art of Death: Writing the Final Story. It's part of that "Art of" writing series from Graywolf Press that I like a lot, and... I don't know. I think about death a lot, so why not read about it?

123southernbooklady
Editado: Ene 26, 2018, 11:49am



So, finally getting around to give my thoughts about Her Body and Other Parties -- it has set the bar pretty high for books this year. I was impressed and the range of reactions it evoked in me -- the intensity of my responses to each story in itself demands that I acknowledge the book as something special, even though I had very different feelings about every story. Some, like the extended re-interpretation of every episode of Law and Order SVU, left me cool -- very aware of the brilliance of Machado's style, and intellectually impressed with her imagination. But not so emotionally engaged, perhaps because I've never seen an episode of that show in my life and have no plans -- even after reading this -- to start watching reruns.

But others gripped me tight and left me feeling both profoundly exhilarated and deeply unsettled. "Eight Bites" -- the internal and external journey of a woman who undergoes one of those stomach reduction surgeries to become thin -- well, it gave me very bad dreams. And "Inventory" -- a woman's description of her lovers as a epidemic spreads across the country and empties the landscape of people -- was erotic and beautiful and scary. The first story in the book, "The Husband Stitch" is a tour de force and possibly my favorite. It's a retelling of the fairy/horror story of the man who marries a beautiful woman who wears a ribbon around her neck, and refuses to take it off -- the retelling is, naturally, from the woman's perspective and is brilliant. That ribbon becomes....I don't know....that vital part of us which belongs only to us, and which the people in our lives can't let be, but must own and control.

Is there such a genre as feminist horror? Because that is the only label I could give this collection and as umbrella terms go it is a tattered, lacy one, full of ripped holes. Her Body and Other Parties is a direct descendant of The Yellow Wallpaper, only more -- more physical, more frightening, more sexy, more mad. I really, really loved it.

124alans
Ene 27, 2018, 6:58pm

On my list as it made the Story Prize long list.

125lisapeet
Ene 27, 2018, 10:17pm

>123 southernbooklady: What a great testimonial, Nicki. I've seen it around but haven't picked it up—now I will at some point.

I read The Art of Death: Writing the Final Story in a couple of days, since it's a short little thing. I like the "Art of" series a lot—they're always thought-provoking, both in terms of writing and life in general, and add a bunch of books to my wish list (which is always a good thing). This one is no exception. Danticat does a good job with the subject, meditating on death and dying and their depictions in literature—well woven together and not maudlin or overly sentimental.

Just started Elmet, one of my Guardian swap books from LuAnn, and so far it's very lovely/dreamy, a good antidote to all that death (for a little while, anyway... because after all there is no antidote to death).

126Kat.Warren
Editado: Ene 29, 2018, 10:15pm

This is starting very well indeed:

Four Frightened People (Virago Modern Classics)
by E. Arnot Robertson
Link: http://a.co/6aoAmtL

127laurenbufferd
Ene 31, 2018, 10:37am

Yummy!

The new Meg Woltizer The Female Persuasion really is all that. It's about a young woman who meets a feminist icon while in college and works for her not-for-profit after graduation. New feminism meets the old, what does success mean, can friendships survive betrayals - all the big questions and themes. To me, Wolitizer's books are like that adage - life is what happens to you while making other plans, but in a good way. The Interestings remains my favorite but this book seems to get at exactly what is happening right now and it goes down as easy as a chocolate milkshake.

I went back to an earlier novel Surrender Dorothy.

128Nancy_Sirvent
Feb 1, 2018, 2:18pm

That sounds like my kind of novel. I also loved The Interestings.

129lisapeet
Editado: Feb 1, 2018, 2:32pm

>128 Nancy_Sirvent: Oh, me too.

Lauren, did you get a chance to read Best American Short Stories 2017, which she edited? Aside from having a lot of neat choices, she wrote a good--and interesting--intro.

130laurenbufferd
Feb 1, 2018, 4:29pm

No, but thanks for reminding me - I do want to read her intro.

131DG_Strong
Feb 1, 2018, 5:29pm

I read Call Me by Your Name on my vacation to Mexico. It's verrrry close to the movie, even the slight falling apart once the main characters leave the main setting in the final act; it loses tension somehow. But it's good, that dude can write. It's such a DG book, a hundred pages of nothing happening and then one thing happens and then nothing else happens. And for along stretches it's like he's writing one sentence, expressing one thought, in fifty different ways until he gets it right....but then doesn't delete the previous versions. It's kind of maddening and hypnotic.

132alans
Feb 4, 2018, 9:32am

I’m reading through the finalists for The Story Prize so I started with Ottessa Moshfegh’s Homesick for Another World. I really loved her book Eileen although I thought shortlisting it for the Booker was crazy. At the start of this collection I felt Moshfegh was up to her usual tricks and that it was tiresome. And I wondered what Larry Dark who I respect enormously was thinking when he picked this book. If she can find something totally bizarre about a character she includes it,it becomes this game of pretence and misanthropy with her. One young character comments on her first kiss with her boyfriend and she says his lips smelt like excrement. What is a reader supposed to do with such an off the wall comment like that. So she definitely enjoys playing with grotesques. But after a while I did fall for her stories and felt they were very much like Carver,very lonely troubled people. All in all I did like the collection except for two stories which were just filler,but you really have to like her obseession with oddity which at times becomes a bit faddish.
The cover of the book has to be one of the ugliest I have ever seen . Perhaps in line with the authors world-view.

133lisapeet
Editado: Feb 4, 2018, 9:43am

>132 alans: That was one of the few Story Prize finalists I've had not a lot of interest in reading. I don't think I'm going to be able to read through the three this year—too many library holds coming in (which is my fault, but still) and at least one book out for review that I begged for, so the least I can do is get it in on time. I do have the Alarcón book, so I may get to that one.

I finished Elmet, which I liked a lot although it turned out not to be an antidote to death, exactly—there was quite a bit there. It's a dark fairy tale set in a just-barely contemporary England, thick with beautiful woodsy descriptions and a hovering anticipation of violence all the way through. Mozley just about out–Angela Carters Angela Carter, but there's also some Faulkner-level southern gothic at work (without the actual south). I liked it overall, though the Yorkshire dialect set my teeth on edge sometimes. But I'm always a sucker for a green-wood fable, and this put an interesting and unique spin on it, so I approve.

Now I'm reading the first book in Dorothy Dunnett's Lymond chronicles, The Game of Kings. Because how better to totally fail in my resolution of reading the books already on my physical and virtual shelves than by starting a six-book series from the library? Though this one is longish and if my hold runs out before it's over I'll probably end up impulsively grabbing my own copy (which still trashes my resolution). I do have a bunch of airplane time next week, though—and, if the weather stays true to form, a bunch of airPORT time as well—so maybe that won't happen.

134cindydavid4
Feb 4, 2018, 10:06am

>133 lisapeet: Oh the Lymmond series is excellent. Its been a while since I read it; interested in how you like it.

Now reading The Overneath a new collection of short stories by Peter Beagle. If you are a fantasy fan, and have read Last Unicorn, you may get a kick out of the stories about Smendrick the Magician! All of the stories Ive read so far are excellent; he is still one of my favorite story tellers. My fav is A Fine and Private Place

135cindydavid4
Editado: Feb 4, 2018, 10:11am

>131 DG_Strong: Today's NYT has an excellent interview with the actor in the movie, Timothée Chalamet, along with Saoirse Ronan. Love their conversation with the interviewer and cant wait to see what both of them do in what I suspect will be very long careers!

136southernbooklady
Feb 4, 2018, 11:45am

>133 lisapeet: When I read the Lymond series I got so involved I didn't come up for air. I read one book after the other, missed most of the entire month of June of that year, and almost wrecked my relationship because I blew off every engagement and plan so I could keep reading.

137laurenbufferd
Feb 7, 2018, 1:18pm

I really enjoyed Surrender Dorothy. Wolitzer writes so well about friendship and money . I read her mother's book An Available Man which was very sweet- a domestic comedy about a widower who begins dating again - and am re-reading The Ten Year Nap. I have an interview with her to transcribe - it's very sound-bytey, she's either very well spoken or my questions were just kind of ho-hum and she'd answered them a zillion times. But still, a bit of a thrill.

138Kat.Warren
Editado: Feb 8, 2018, 11:03pm

Undergoing one of those exhilarating reading experiences when stumbling across a "new" writer, in this case born in 1903: E. Arnot Robertson (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._Arnot_Robertson), thank you, Virago. Now collecting her books.

The "E" is for Eileen, what a relief, not Elizabeth.

Four Frightened People (Virago Modern Classics)
by E. Arnot Robertson
Link: http://a.co/5FSTZ5v

Ordinary families: A novel (A Virago modern classic)
by E. Arnot Robertson
Link: http://a.co/8j7MuGH

Cullum (Virago Modern Classics)
by E. Arnot Robertson
Link: http://a.co/6z1qoCA

The Signpost
Three Came Unarmed
Justice of the Heart
Devices and Desires

139lisapeet
Feb 11, 2018, 1:40pm

>127 laurenbufferd: It's totally your fault I picked up a copy of The Female Persuasion at ALA Midwinter. (The other eight books I came home with I blame on the publicists.) Looking forward to it.

But in the meantime I'm thoroughly enjoying The Game of Kings—it's super dense and twisty-turny, full of references to all sorts of classics and mythology and 16th-century culture and politics. This is a time when reading the ebook is the best (aside from the fact that it's 540 pages long)—clicking on a word or phrase gives instant satisfaction. Except if you're on a plane, of course... in which case it was also nice to just chug along and not keep interrupting myself. Someone in another LT group linked to a great blog that analyzes each chapter of the book and explains some of the esoteric stuff, so I just opened a bunch of tabs before I got on the plane to circumvent the no wi-fi thing.

140southernbooklady
Editado: Feb 11, 2018, 5:51pm

Este mensaje fue borrado por su autor.

141cindydavid4
Editado: Feb 11, 2018, 7:39pm

I Am I Am I Am a memoir from a favorite author who Lynn and I discovered about the same time. Thanks for pointing this one out to me, seems like she writes non fiction as well as she does her fiction. This finally came in on Friday and I've been reading it all weekend. The first chapter made me remember all the times when whatever it was I was doing could have been fatal. The last chapter about her daughter's illness reminded me of so many other parent's journeys with their children's (my students) illnesses. Didn't realize the title was from Sylvia Plath Anyway, highly recommended

142lisapeet
Feb 11, 2018, 9:23pm

>141 cindydavid4: I just picked that one up too, cindy. I really like the premise.

143cindydavid4
Feb 11, 2018, 9:45pm

I really like the LT reviews of it, reading them had me nodding my head, at the same time wishing I could put my thoughts into words so well. Anyway, One called it 'honest and open' which usually for me means TMI but thats not the case here. She manages to let you in without asking for the reader to be shocked or repulsed. Shes certainly not asking for any pity. Just good storytelling .

144laurenbufferd
Feb 12, 2018, 11:11pm

lisa p., I take full responsibility!!

145cindydavid4
Feb 13, 2018, 5:27pm

RE I Am - on page 44, she describes how wild she was when she was a child in a way that makes me picture every ornery impulsive student i ever had. Perfect rendering of the thought process going on in the head that let to the least little something make her blow up. I should hand copies of this section to parents with similar children, to let them know that there is hope :)

146laurenbufferd
Feb 14, 2018, 12:31pm

I really had a good time with my Wolitzer reads both the new book and some of the older titles. I even watched a movie that had been made from This is Your Life which was also Nora Ephron's first movie and starred Julie Kavner and a very young Gaby Hoffman. It was not terrible.

I don't think anyone writes about the ups and downs of friendships like she does. For me, she gets every single nuance right.

I am reading Stray City - very readable, almost breezy novel about a young lesbian who moves from Nebraska to Portland, has a fling with a dude, gets pregnant and keeps the baby. Lots of good pre-pub buzz and I think it's going to be hit.

147lynn_r
Editado: Feb 14, 2018, 5:36pm

Cindy, when you finish I Am I Am you’ll realize why she didn’t put the stories in chronological order. It’s sort of a twist so I won’t say more but it’s so well done.

I am LOVING Circe by Madeline Miller. If you read her previous book Song of Achilles and liked it, you’ll love this. This is going down on my best of the year list if it continues to be this good. I keep hugging to my chest it I love it so much.

(Pat if you’re still here, this is a guarantee winner for you but I’m betting the usual suspects here will love this too.)

148lisapeet
Editado: Feb 17, 2018, 6:54pm

Even though I'm in the last quarter of The Game of Kings and it's getting super plot-twisty and tricky, I've put it down for a few days to read Viv Albertine's new memoir To Throw Away Unopened because the review is due Tuesday. And I figured since I asked to do the book, the least I can do is get the review in on time. And it's good, very of this time—she's a strong but also a little neurotic middle-aged woman who's angry about the same things we all are, and worried about the same things, dealing with her mother's death, having a second-chapter career, trying to stay physically and mentally healthy... in other words very relatable. And while that's not always a plus in a memoir—I don't necessarily want to read about someone who reminds me of me—her voice is a great match for her content and it all works. So far, anyway.

And in between I'm sneaking paragraphs of the Dunnett so I don't forget what's happening. At least I'm not likely to get the two books confused in any way, shape, or form.

149cindydavid4
Editado: Feb 17, 2018, 7:14pm

>147 lynn_r: Yes, I saw that lynn. Good move, that. I loved the structure, certainly an interesting way to categorize events and tell the story. The last chapter probably could have been written by several of the parents I worked with who had medically fragile children. But while their predicament is not new to me, the way O'Farrell writes this section (well all section) is stunning. She hits all the emotions - anger, sadness, joy. But one emotion it doesn't evoke is pity. She's got it. I suspect her daughter will have that same determination and energy. One of the best memoirs I have read in a very long time.

Now reading Celine loved his Dog Stars, already loving this one.

150DG_Strong
Feb 18, 2018, 9:40am

The House of Impossible Beauties

There's very little fiction about the emergence of the Harlem drag ball scene - lots of documentary stuff, but not fiction - so it's interesting in that regard. Tough to avoid some inherent cliches with the material but it's pretty good so far. It mixes up fictional characters and real ones, founder of certain houses, so it sends you down a lot of research rabbit holes. My internet browsing history is quite hilarious right now.

151laurenbufferd
Editado: Feb 18, 2018, 12:59pm

That's how I felt about Stray City - like it's covering some new ground and is the fictional background for every girl who moved to Portland or picked up a guitar because of Bikini Kill.

I spent a rainy quiet Saturday reading Nine Lives: In Search of the Sacred in Modern India which I am loving and is also sending me to the internet to look at Sufi shrines and Thyyam dancers. Also, read the stories in Multitudes - a beautifully put together collection by Lucy Caldwell - the stories all take place in E Belfast and most are about girls - young or on the verge of adolescence and all the trials and tribulations therein. There are a few missteps but some real stunners too. I loved the sense of place, the Van Morrison references - very subtle but there, and the way the Troubles were implicit but not overt. A childs-eye view without a lick of twee-ness.

I wish Sue Russell was alive to share them with.

152LuRits
Feb 21, 2018, 7:46am

I'm reading Greer's Less and so far it is working for me.

153DG_Strong
Feb 21, 2018, 8:43am

Less is a very sweet book; it just missed my top five last year.

154laurenbufferd
Feb 21, 2018, 4:55pm

I read but didn't love The Friend. It felt like an essay on mourning and writing or the bonds between an animal and a human, but not quite both and not a novel. There were aspects of it I liked very much - I am a sucker for a not-quite-reliable narrator - and I always like reading about NYC. But the neither fish nor fowl-ness of the narrative was not for me.

Not bad at all. It just slipped right off me although there was one place where I did let out a hearty laugh.

Anyone want this? It's awfully pretty and not an ARC. DG, Nancy?

155Nancy_Sirvent
Feb 21, 2018, 8:15pm

If DG is interested, let him have it. If not, I'll take it. It looks pretty good.

156DG_Strong
Feb 22, 2018, 7:54am

I hog up enough -- it's yours, Nancy!

157cindydavid4
Feb 22, 2018, 8:51am

Reading a collection Yann Martel The Facts behind the Helsinki Roccamatios These are four early stories of his that were his best of the time period. You can tell he was a new writer, coz he really needed an editor. That being said his writing is excellent, and his stories quite powerful.

158laurenbufferd
Feb 22, 2018, 10:20am

Nancy, I'll put it in the mail on Monday.

Reading The Wife. Darker but funnier too than more recent Wolitzer. One thing we talked about when I interviewed her was her wry sensibility - she said that when she is in revisions, she looks out for glibness. There's a little of that here.

159Nancy_Sirvent
Feb 22, 2018, 2:50pm

Thanks, Lauren and DG!

160DG_Strong
Feb 24, 2018, 8:13am

I'm juggling:

Lillian Boxfish Takes a Walk - I loathe the cutesy title but the book is a winner at the halfway point. There's a blurb that compares it to Dorothy Parker and Dawn Powell (I mean, who do they write these blurbs for other than me?), which isn't really accurate; it's sweeter than those two, less acid. But still quite funny; there have been some laugh aloud parts. And it has some good Mad Men-era stuff.

The Stowaway - another in a looooong line of "white dudes do crazy things" books. It's short, but fascinating.

A Stolen Paradise - this is a book about the filming of Night of the Iguana in Puerto Vallarta. It's written by a film historian and is mostly notes in paragraph form. A little dry ("a further $41,000 was allocated for equipment"), but full of good details. I think it's not quiiiite self-published, but whatever the step up from that is -- it's cheap-looking and the type is spaced sort of unprofessionally

161Kat.Warren
Feb 26, 2018, 4:01pm

162DG_Strong
Feb 27, 2018, 7:41am

It's a sweet book, with just enough lemon squeezed into it for the likes of us.

163laurenbufferd
Feb 27, 2018, 9:40am

I super liked The Wife. It was pretty dark, kind of meanly funny and missing some of the Wolitzer feel-good stuff. I also guessed early on what the big reveal was going to be. But it's so pointed and funny in an angry way, I found it pretty
irresistible. also NYC in the 60s and 70s for those of you who like sort of thing LISA PEET.

I bought some used books off ebay and was sent the wrong thing - an early Pat Barker novel called The Century's Daughter with just about the ugliest cover known to man or beast. It's a book I'd have totally bought myself, if I'd known that it existed, although truth be told, except for the Regeneration series, I've never been able to get through a book of hers. I am finding this uneven - there are some scenes where I honestly could not tell you what happened- it's like she leaves some key verbs out of the story. But I still like it - it's about a woman born in 1900, living in dilapidated housing in an old steel mill community and a community worker who grows close to her. I think it was published here as Liza's England. Anyway, very SP, DG, LuAnn, Kat.

164southernbooklady
Feb 27, 2018, 10:58am

>163 laurenbufferd: although truth be told, except for the Regeneration series, I've never been able to get through a book of hers

Honestly, Regeneration set the bar pretty high for me (conscientious objectors! conflicted doctors! sanity in wartime!, POETS!), but I've liked many of her other books -- the one about the sociopath who may or may not have really killed his family when he was a kid, the one about the combat journalist with a hefty case of PTSD, even the one about the artist-turned-ambulance driver in WWI. Barker is always working her way around some Big Question and that appeals to me.

165laurenbufferd
Feb 27, 2018, 11:46am

I agree - her topics are always right up my alley. But there is something about her style that I find difficult to connect to. But I keep trying!

166laurenbufferd
Editado: Mar 1, 2018, 11:38am

So glad I kept reading The Century's Daughter. I still find Barker to be a sticky go style-wise - there is something I am missing but it's a super interesting novel with some similar themes to the rest of her work - mental health, the ravages of war, the working class, being an outsider.

I started Under the Udala Trees and am also reading Astrid Lindgren's War Diaries. She is the Pippi Longstocking lady, in case you didn't know and these are excerpted from 4 years of scrapbooks she kept during WWII. It's a bit more than a civilian's account, Lindgren had a job with the censorship bureau so she was reading lots of letters in and out of the office and so was privy to quite a bit of information. But it's still very much from a ordinary housewife's point of view and it's a before the fame that her children's books brought her. Very readable and interesting. War Diaries

167lisapeet
Mar 1, 2018, 11:07pm

>163 laurenbufferd: Haha OK, noted. NYPL's got The Wife so I'll put it on my to-put-on-hold list.

I've only read Regeneration, maybe a dozen years ago? But remember liking it very much. I have the rest of the trilogy but I'd probably go back and reread that again if I was going to do the whole thing. Which who knows, I might—I've got a new respect for series, which I've always shied away from, because I totally loved The Game of Kings and will definitely keep going with the rest of the series. There are five more, and I don't want to read them all in a row—these need palate cleansers in between, I think, because they're SO dense. But if I do end up going all the way through, this will be the first series I've read since The Chronicles of Narnia when I was 12.

I took some time off in the middle of the Dunnett to read Viv Albertine's To Throw Away Unopened, which turned verrry dark at the end. She reads both her dead parents' diaries, which chronicle the end of their really awful, abusive, manipulative marriage, and is kind of forced to weigh them against each other—kind of Rashomon-on-the-couch. Which could be really heavy and grim, but her voice is great—very droll, funny, often extremely profane, and it makes for a really odd but fascinating (but did I mention dark?) memoir. And it's all interposed with scenes of the night her mother dies, when she gets into a brawl with her sister in the hospital room... you have to be there, or at least read it yourself.

Now reading Xhenet Aliu's Brass, which I think Lauren you liked? Anyway, early days but a refreshingly different voice. And I don't just mean different from 16th-century Scotland, although there's also that.

168laurenbufferd
Mar 2, 2018, 9:49am

The Viv Albertine is definitely going to be my next non-fiction read. Somehow the Lindgren jumped the queue.

I did like Brass quite a bit. I felt like the story was familiar but the setting and the voice were fresh enough to keep me interested. But I have to say the cover does a horrible injustice to the novel - it's just not right at all - with that pliable young woman leaning up against a car, knees coyly peeking out from her skirt - it's not a match at all for either of the very scrappy mother/daughter narrators. Who signed off on that? Sexist bullshit.

I totally understand why Wolitzer wants non-figurative imagery for her covers.

A cool thing about Aliu is that she's a librarian.

169lisapeet
Mar 2, 2018, 6:09pm

>168 laurenbufferd: I didn't know that about Aliu, thanks! Always good to give a nod to a fellow librarian. And that Lindgren book looks really interesting. Oh why can't I just stay home and read all the time...

170lynn_r
Editado: Mar 4, 2018, 1:23am

Just finished and frickin LOVED The City of Lost Fortunes by Bryan Camp. Sort of like American Gods but focused on New Orleans. Guy can really write:

“The soul must balance the weight of its heart against the feather of truth in order to pass into the realm beyond. Or it must cross a bridge as narrow as a knife’s edge, or brave a mountain pass where the mountains clash against one another, or it must pay the boatman to ferry it across the river, which is a river of blood, or of tears, or of waters of forgetting. Or it rides a horse that gallops across the ocean’s surfaces, or sails in a boat made of glass. Or it must descend into a frozen pit, or climb a vast mountain to the celestial spheres. It undertakes a journey that may last three days, or a year, or four, or that is outside of time entirely. The soul’s destination is a meadow, or a field, or a green lawn, or hunting grounds, or an island, or the first home of mankind where the food is plentiful and disease does not exist and it is always summer. The valorous dead are carried from the field of battle to a great feast, the benevolent find themselves in a garden of eternal joy, and the wise become one with all. The sinful dead face their punishments in a maze, a lake of fire, or a dark and frozen cave, or they are returned to the world, given another birth, another life, another death, in which to redeem their mistakes. Or the dead are simply dead. Their energy returns to the universe, their elements the same as the living and dying stars. Death is the beginning of a journey, a doorway to another world, one part of an eternal cycle. It is never truly the end.”

Tomorrow I need to read for our book club, Eleanor Oliphant is Completely Fine by Gail Honeyman.

Then an ARC, The Neuroscientist Who Lost Her Mind: My Tale of Madness and Recovery.

(Edited for links.)

171mkunruh
Editado: Mar 5, 2018, 4:23pm

City of Lost Fortunes looks like my kind of jam Lynn -- I've bookmarked it, so I will remember to get it when it comes out in April.

172Kat.Warren
Mar 5, 2018, 5:14pm

The Doves of Venus (Virago modern classics)
by Olivia Manning
Link: http://a.co/4DWBeMk

173lisapeet
Mar 5, 2018, 10:50pm

Finished Brass and really liked it—it was kind of just what I needed right now. As an essentially kind person who sometimes walks around with a chip on my shoulder because the world is a difficult place, I find reading about essentially kind people who sometimes walk around with chips on their shoulders because the world is a difficult place to be really... comforting. At least if the writing is good and the story has a good compassionate heart, and this is definitely one of those. Super sweet without being at all saccharine.

Next, on to a big chunk of an ARC: Mr. Lear: A Life of Art and Nonsense by Jenny Uglow.

174laurenbufferd
Editado: Mar 6, 2018, 10:18am

LUCKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am glad you liked Brass. I did too. As I think I may have said, it's not that the story is so new but the setting is. And I think it's a fresh take on the immigrant in America story. I keep meaning to hunt up Aliu's short stories.

I finished Under the Udala Trees and despite wanting to reedit it (too many dreams and folktales), I thought it was a really interesting and compelling novel about growing up gay in Nigeria right after the Biafran war. Definitely a story that needed to be told.

Reading a new British novel Tin Man.

175southernbooklady
Mar 6, 2018, 12:31pm

I'm looking forward to the Lear biography -- not so much because of the subject -- because I would read pretty much anything Jenny Uglow decided to write about. Her perspective, whatever the subject, always opens new vistas in my mind.

It's curious, in fact, what has come to count as "impressive" biography to me. Uglow, Richardson, Janet Malcolm, Peter Ackroyd, Megan Marshall, maybe even Ron Chernow despite my love/hate relationship with his books -- what is it about these biographers that makes such a deep impact on me?

It's a question that I've been turning over in my mind having finished Walter Isaacson's book on Da Vinci. Now there's a book that by all accounts I should be raving about -- endlessly fascinating subject, interesting perspective (it's all focused on Da Vinci's notebooks), a theme -- where creativity comes from -- that I have great affinity for. The book should be a slam dunk.

And yet, although I enjoyed it -- very much -- the book did not rock my world. Unlike Uglow did when she wrote about Thomas Bewick, or Janet Malcolm did when she wrote about the marriage between Hughes and Plath. Or like Richardson did when he wrote about Emerson's spiritual and philosophical evolution.

Why? The only thing I can come up with is that Isaacson leans a little heavily on his subject for support. He lets Da Vinci's genius, rather than his own insight, do most of the talking. As a result, his book reads like a kind of extended adulation of a man who we already knew clearly deserved all the praise. The reader learns very many small things about Da Vinci's life, techniques, and creative process (or procrastination thereof), but not a lot of deep, big things. Da Vinci is full of insight. His biographer, maybe not so much.

It's utterly unlike the response I had to Marshall on Margaret Fuller -- where her account got you into the head and heart of her subject, but also had you walking in her shoes in the time and place. And I think it is this quality -- the ability to show the subject as both unique, complicated person and yet also of their era -- that I find so appealing in biography.

I'm not sure I'm explaining it well, but Uglow can do it beautifully.

176laurenbufferd
Editado: Mar 6, 2018, 1:58pm

I totally agree.

And have you read Richard Holmes, SBL? His biographies of Shelley and Coleridge are so wonderful and his essays about being a biographer Footsteps: Adventures of a Romantic Biographer Sidetracks are perfection.

177southernbooklady
Mar 6, 2018, 2:28pm

>176 laurenbufferd: Yes! He's another one. Loved is book on Johnson, and of course Age of Wonders is a ton of fun. I sometimes think that these writers are biographers of an age, not a person.

178lisapeet
Mar 6, 2018, 10:45pm

Oh I do want to read that Bewick bio someday. And also get to my copies of the Fuller and Age of Wonder. A good biography is such a feat.

179JulieCarter
Editado: Mar 7, 2018, 9:17am

Ah, so now I know who it was that got me to put some Richard Holmes books in my wishlist! Maybe I should actually read one, though.

Edit: So why exactly is the Shelley NYRB Classics version so expensive? List price is $40? Yeah, nope. I'll just read my mother's grad school papers.

180laurenbufferd
Mar 8, 2018, 11:09am

Tin Man got a ton of hype but I didn't think it was much of anything. Perfectly pleasing to read but ultimately forgettable novel about a British widower's memories of a romantic friendship with another man. I read for review so plan to dig in and find something positive to say about it but between you and me, meh.

Reading the very un-meh A Wrinkle in Time.

181cindydavid4
Editado: Mar 8, 2018, 10:45pm

lynn did you know Dara Horn has a new book, Eternal Life looks like it be good(touchstone shows wrong book)

182cindydavid4
Mar 12, 2018, 10:58pm

Wow, where is everyone? Now reading A Gentleman in Moscow and really enjoying it. Love his characters and his vivid descriptions have me imagining each scene as a movie. I don't care for the footnotes, find them bothersome and distracting. I don't need foreboding to enjoy a book. But that aside, if this holds up, this might be the top book for me this year (tho the year is young!)

183JulieCarter
Mar 13, 2018, 9:55am

I'm finally getting around to reading Dune by Frank Herbert. Heard of it? I've had an audio version and a paperback version for years (and of course, I've seen the David Lynch movie several times), and I've never been able to make any headway with it. Until now! I have no idea what has clicked, but I don't care. (Actually, I strongly suspect that it's because I unintentionally stopped taking antidepressants, and now I'm reading a ton more than I have been for the last couple of years. And because I got some readers, because the print in this paperback is teeny!) I'm about halfway through it, and finding it better than I expected. Even my brother, who loves it and has read all the books written by Herbert himself, kept trying to warn me, "It's 380 pages of nothing happening, and then 10 pages of something great." I don't agree with him so far.

Soon, I will be starting The Immortalists, because it was picked for my book club and I skipped the last book.

184laurenbufferd
Mar 13, 2018, 10:07am

I snuggled down and read A Wrinkle in Time in a day. Still like it!

I finished War Diaries 1939-1945 and it's really good - a very very interesting POV from the homefront and because it's Sweden, a very fresh one as well. Or at least less well known to me. Lindgren is a good writer - there's an elegance and economy to the entries I wasn't expecting. In fact, the whole book was a really pleasant surprise. Highly recommended.

There's a glossary at the end for names but I'd have loved some personal information too. Absolutely buried in the glossary is the fact that her first son was born out of wedlock and was fostered out as a baby. And in 1945 or so, it's clear that her husband is having an affair and she's writing Pippi Longstocking. I wanted more.

I am reading Pachinko. It's very good.

185lynn_r
Editado: Mar 13, 2018, 1:56pm

Aargh, typed a whole post and it disappeared. I’m sure it is not my fault.

Anyway, if you read that new one by Dara Horn, Cindy, let me know. I’ve kind of given up on her.

We are reading the Immortalists for my book club next month Julie. It wasn’t my pick but since I read it and liked it, thumb’s up from me. I do have to reread before club because I forget too much.

Lastly, just finished and really liked The Neuroscientist Who Lost Her Mind by Barbara Lipska. Super interesting memoir about this 65 year old woman who developed brain tumors as a results of metastasis from an earlier melanoma.

Because she was a neuroscientist, she was able to (later) explain how her bizarre behavior could be explained by showing how different parts of her brain were affected - the frontal lobe, cerebellum, occipital lobe, etc.

She explains more than just how her symptoms could be explained; like how dementia works, why the frontal lobe dosen’t fully develop until our 20’s and what that means, on and on.

Anyway, I liked it.

By the way, the post that got accidentally deleted was really brilliant. This one will just have to do.

186southernbooklady
Mar 13, 2018, 2:41pm

I finished Mary Beard's Women & Power on the airplane over the weekend. On the one hand, every time she writes a sentence my massive crush on her is re-affirmed. On the other, I'm sorry to say the book does not have all the answers to the problem of rampant misogyny. Beard poses lots of questions, but they are questions I've already been asking.

187lisapeet
Editado: Mar 14, 2018, 6:51am

>186 southernbooklady: It's a good conversation starter of a book. My feminist book club launched with that, though I couldn't make the meeting (the next one was Men Explain Things to Me, also a good discussion).

>184 laurenbufferd: You're selling me on that Lindgren book. Plus now I want to go back and reread Pippi Longstocking. But I'm not sure about A Wrinkle in Time... that was such A Book for me when I was a kid, I'm not sure I want to know how it holds up.

Anyway, I'm going to be reading Mr. Lear for the near future. I'm about halfway through (500 pages) but the time change is screwing with my reading patterns—every time I sit down on the train, which is when I usually do all my reading, I nod out like a junkie. It's going to take another week before I can convince my body that I'm not actually waking up at 5 a.m. every morning. But it's fun—ah, for the life of a mid-18th-century itinerant painter, traveling the world with my painter friends and talking about painting. Life—or at least that life—was just so different.

188cindydavid4
Mar 14, 2018, 12:24am

>183 JulieCarter: My hs boyfriend put Dune in my hands and said you must read this. I did and I was hooked - I was all of 14. Reread it many times, then didn't read until a few years back for my sci fi group. This time I was somewhat disappointed, and realized that actually the second book in the series is so much better. The first is amazing with the world building and characters, but there was probably ways to edit it down. But the second was all story, and what a story it was! So get through Dune, then go immediately to Dune Messiah You won't be sorry :)

189laurenbufferd
Mar 14, 2018, 10:16am

>187 lisapeet: Lisa Peet, I thought AWIT did hold up. Maybe a tiny bit more awareness of certain things that were prevalent at the time - cold war etc, but not enough to ruin anything. And I still teared up at the part that always made me cry as a kid, so that's good.

The Lindgren book is good! And my editor snagged an ARC of the Lear bio - I am super excited about that.

I am really enjoying Pachinko. It's beautifully paced and about a world I know so little about.

190AprilAdamson
Mar 17, 2018, 11:03pm

I just realized that I haven't posted here in a while. My most recent reads were The Underground Railroad and Elmet. The Underground Railroad was a reread for my book group. I decided to do a slow, close read so I could say something intelligent at book group. I followed it up quickly with Elmet. It was a huge mistake to read those two books back to back. I wasn't prepared for the constant threat of violence in Elmet. Coming on top of the violence in The Underground Railroad the anxiety about killed me. The combination of books actually caused some physical distress that I've never experienced when reading. I forced myself to finish Elmet in three days just so I could get it finished. Etta and Otto and Russell and James by Emma Hooper is my completely brainless brain cleanser. Next up: The Immortalists and Great Expectations. We're going on a Panama Canal cruise for 3 weeks, so I'm taking my Kindle along.

191DG_Strong
Mar 18, 2018, 8:20pm

I'm reading Milking the Moon, an oral autobiography of Eugene Walter, who is simply impossible to explain. I'm not sure how I missed this when it came out, but a friend has asked for some help on a kind-of-related top secret project that I can talk more about later, so he gave me a copy and gosh -- I can't decide if I should be insulted or flattered that he thought of me when he was reading it. Walter is like Capote (who he of course knew as a child), Coward, Stephen Tennant and Forrest Gump all rolled up into one incredibly unlikely person.

I am SO glad it's an oral autobiography, though -- his storytelling voice is very specific and if an author had ironed any of it out, it would all be quite unbelievable, even though it already IS quite unbelievable, the squiring Dinesen around Rome, the appearances in Fellini films...just all of it. It's so obviously and beautifully embroidered that you admire the skill of the embroiderer even though you know a lot of it is proooobably iffy.

192Nancy_Sirvent
Editado: Mar 18, 2018, 10:59pm

Well, that is irresistible.

edit: and the Kindle version is only $4.19! click

193DG_Strong
Mar 19, 2018, 8:07am

It IS irresistible! that's the word.

194robertajl
Mar 19, 2018, 10:17am

There's a CD of Mr. Walter reading his own works called Rare Bird. It's charming.

195southernbooklady
Mar 19, 2018, 11:00am

There was a popular entertaining/drinks/cookbook from Eugene Walter awhile back: The Happy Table. One of those foodie-memoir things. But I don't know if it was popular because of the food, or because of the guy. I suspect more the latter than the former.

196DG_Strong
Mar 19, 2018, 11:59am

Yeah, the cookbook is part of the project I'm sort of involved with. More on that later, though!

197lisapeet
Editado: Mar 28, 2018, 7:00am

Finished Mr. Lear: A Life of Art and Nonsense—I would have been done earlier but I was traveling a bit last week and just couldn't haul the big brick of it it around with all my other gear, so I caught up on New Yorkers on the road instead. The book was fun—there's lots to Edward Lear besides his limericks, as it turns out, and Uglow is such a solid biographer she really brings the times and circumstances into vivid focus. What a life, being a roving mid-19th-century artist! Lear traveled extensively throughout Europe and Asia to paint and write and read, hung out with English peers and the likes of Alfred Tennyson, mooned over being alone but threw himself into his work with fervor, and had an enormous social circle. The book is long and not exactly a page turner—Lear's wasn't an action-packed life by a longshot—but wonderfully evocative of a time and place that just don't exist anymore, and of a restless and creative man who made the most of his gifts and his days.

LJ review to follow, and then Nicki if you want the galley let me know.

Now I'm reading Promise, which I don't know much about other than it's set in Tupelo, MS, and the devastating tornado that hit during the depression.This doesn't look like my usual cuppa tea—warm intergenerational/interracial tale of adversity etc.—but I had put a hold on a copy a while back because it was touted as one of those "books you missed in February," and I'm nothing if not impulsive when it comes to clicking on library books. Readable enough so far, if just a teeny touch heavy handed setting things up, so we'll see.

198JulieCarter
Mar 28, 2018, 2:40pm

I'm nearly done with The Immortalists by Chloe Benjamin for my book group this Saturday. It's interesting, I suppose, but I sure do dislike almost everyone in it (not that that's required). If you know the premise, it's just as frustrating as you'd think it would be, the way these morons react to their predicted deaths. And barely one tiny ounce of humor in any of their lives.

199laurenbufferd
Mar 29, 2018, 1:07pm

I really liked Pachinko especially the premise. Its very long and multi-generational and by the time we were into great-grandchildren, I was kind of ho-hum. But it's very readable and super interesting - about a Korean family that ends up in Japan before the second world war and then what happens to them. It's been a while since I read an old-fashioned family saga and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

I've been catching up on old New Yorkers and dipping into To Throw Away Unopened but I seriously started Invitation to a Bonfire for review and people, it is all that! Boarding school + Nabokov +love triangle.

200lisapeet
Mar 29, 2018, 3:40pm

>199 laurenbufferd: it is all that! Boarding school + Nabokov +love triangle.
Oh goooooddd because I just got it.

201laurenbufferd
Mar 29, 2018, 3:46pm

Lisa, if you hadn't, I'd have sent it to you. It's really good.

202lisapeet
Mar 29, 2018, 4:01pm

I just went through a sudden fit of requesting every single e-galley on Edelweiss and NetGalley that appealed to me--my self-control just went out the window--and bless 'em if they haven't been accommodating, even though I don't have a review site these days. That's on top of the print stuff I brought back from ALA Midwinter and the Public Library Association conference. Why do I have to have a damn job, anyway, when I could just be sitting home reading alla the time? (Because I'd be a stir-crazy lonely bitch with no mission in life, but who's counting?)

I'm also really stoked because Deborah Eisenberg has a new book of short stories out and I LUFF her. Your Duck Is My Duck. Got that one too.

203cindydavid4
Mar 30, 2018, 10:48pm

Reading Robert Silverbergs Dying Inside. Another example of a early sci fi book that isn't very long, but manages to tell a very good story without all the smoke and mirrors so much sci fi seems to be about now a days. Need to read some more of his work

204southernbooklady
Mar 31, 2018, 4:24pm



I finished Terese Marie Mailhot's Heart Berries this week. It's not a long book, but I had to read it twice because it felt so densely packed. And that in itself was an experience because the book is a loose collection of essays that build into a memoir of sorts -- but a memoir of addiction, poverty, sexual abuse, mental illness, and the kind of relentlessly ugly racism and sexism an indigenous woman will inevitably have to deal with. So yeah. But also art, rebellion, beauty, and a kind of singing out in defiance.

It's rare that a book demands so much focus -- insists that the reader pay such close attention every. single. second. Especially because the writing is, well, fairly straightforward. Expository. It's lots of "tell" and very little "show." But all I can say is that it works. Otherwise, I wouldn't have had to stop every other page to just think about what Mailhot was saying. I think it would be a great book club book for feminist groups (well, for anyone, really) because it turns so much of our expectations on its head: a memoir of abuse that can be art without being sentimental, of a woman who is a self-proclaimed fuck up but also a kind of take-no-prisoners fighter, of a mother who knows she is sometimes bad for her children. Mailhot says at one point "In my culture, I believe we carry pain until we can reconcile with it through ceremony. Pain is not framed like a problem with a solution." -- which is as close to a summary of the book as I can get: a ceremony of reconciliation with a life of pain and grief.

Strangely enough, the end result is a book that makes the reader feel hopeful. Or charged with energy or something. It's a book about living, not about dying or being killed.

And okay, I'm rambling. I really did like it. Sherman Alexie was a mentor to her and wrote the intro to the book. Which is weird in itself since the book is all about naming what happened to her and Alexie is under fire right now in the #metoo movement.

Here's one of the pieces:

https://thejamesfrancoreview.com/2016/02/02/nonfiction-by-terese-marie-mailhot/

205lisapeet
Abr 1, 2018, 10:41pm

>204 southernbooklady: I've seen the book around, Nicki, and now I'm intrigued.

I finished Promise pretty quickly—it had its issues, but for all that it was engrossing. The book is a piece of historical fiction set in the aftermath of the tornado that devastated Tupelo, MS, on Good Friday, 1936, and what's both good and bad about it is that takes on a lot of big tasks. It tells the story of two women—one young and white, one black and older—struggling to find loved ones in an almost apocryphally destroyed town, and Gwin does a good job of conveying the enormous swath of damage wrought by the storm. There are multiple odysseys, and the juxtaposition of age vs. youth but chiefly, as it should be, the ways the characters' journeys and impressions separate (and, as it turns out, are connected) along racial lines. Gwin confronts the systemic racism of the time and place—the black dead were simply not counted, for instance, making their recovery a whole degree of magnitude harder than that of the whites—but this still works better as Story than Statement. There are parts where that story dithers a bit, and plenty of places where it is probably not as hard-hitting as it should be—although I'd also argue that this is not necessarily that book. And it was ultimately an absorbing read—bonus points to the author for some moments of kindhearted foreshadowing beyond the parameters of the book—hitting on a couple of my current interests: natural disasters, and the mindset of service.

Now I'm in the mood for something short and sharp and made out of paper, so I'm reading Myriam Gurba's Mean.

206laurenbufferd
Abr 2, 2018, 9:51am

I'm interested to hear your thoughts on Mean, lisapeet. It is short and sharp and maybe the funniest book I've ever read about rape which feels weird to even think, let alone say. Such a unique voice.

207JulieCarter
Abr 2, 2018, 11:01am

There are a lot of very interesting-sounding memoirs out there right now, and it's my turn to pick for book club, so I'm considering picking something like that. But I have often found that non-fiction reads of any kind don't lend themselves to discussion in a book club setting. Do you all think Heart Berries or Mean would be good for a book club discussion? If not something like that, I need to think. I'm irritated by a couple of people who always complain every book is the same as every other book we read, when they absolutely are not, or that every book is too something (too vagina-y, too gay, too much WWII, etc.). I want to pick something that will disturb them, kinda. My own little F You! I made you read this book!

208southernbooklady
Abr 2, 2018, 12:20pm

Heart Berries would be a great book club book for a certain kind of book club, but it isn't an easy or straightforward read. And it's not exactly a linear narrative, so . . . proceed with caution, maybe? But it's very rewarding if you do decide to dive in.

209DG_Strong
Abr 2, 2018, 5:14pm

"Deborah Eisenberg has a new book of short stories out"

WHAAAAAAAAAATTTTTT?

210lisapeet
Abr 2, 2018, 6:36pm

I know right?

211laurenbufferd
Abr 3, 2018, 4:17pm

Too vagina-y.

My epitaph.

212mkunruh
Editado: Abr 5, 2018, 11:45am

Heh.

I'm reading Enchantress of Florence because my dad just read it and wanted to talk about it. I'm enjoying it though -- has a Dunnet feel to it at times, which I don't expect from a Rushdie novel -- he writes very well, the moghul sections are interesting, and I want to know where he going with the "Enchantress."

I started Mean, like what I've read so far (I get the "funniest book about rape") and decided to wait to read it in one go after I'm done Enchantress. (Or, I'll pick it up again and finish it before I'm done Enchantress but it deserves more than to be read in 5 minute chunks as I wait in line for coffee) .

I'm listening to Amor Towles A Gentleman in Moscow as I travel to and from work -- it is elitist, full of literary name drops, dismissive of huge swaths of Soviet history -- he spends more time on the switching of the power grid in Moscow to nuclear power than on the all the death and destruction that went before (because this serves the plot), and twee, but its content is so undemanding that it perfect for a 15 minute commute (sorry Lisa). Plus, I can grumble at it rather than at the university admin, which is healthier I think.

I've read a bunch of other things -- my reading life after a longish drought has been decent -- but the most recent and most engaging read was Fever Dream. Totally unexpected. I was grumpy with the TOB's knock out of both Exit West and Sing, Unburied, Sing but I'm not as grumpy now -- it's a fascinating and creepy read that gives the reader lots to think about. I'd happily read it again.

edited for blue language

213lisapeet
Abr 5, 2018, 10:05pm

>206 laurenbufferd: >212 mkunruh: Does that make us Mean girls? Hey, I'll own that. I finished it yesterday and loved it—what a great voice she has. There was something I tagged that I wanted to post but I left the book at work, so I'll add it tomorrow. But there were so many good moments of recognition about the ways the exterior world knocks up against the world in your head—sort of in between a glint in her eye and a punch on the arm. Really really sharp. And though I know you're not supposed to consider such things when talking about authorial things, have you seen her picture? She is a knockout—hell, I'd date her (though I'm definitely not her type).

It's definitely pretty vagina-y. Julie, I'd read it first before putting it up for your book club—it's short and then you can decide if they can handle it. It definitely skews edgy.

Mir, you're my first friend who's read (or at least talked about) Fever Dream, though I've seen it around all over. ToB got me interested, though, so I'm glad to hear you were into it.

I just started Educated, a memoir of how the author grew up in Idaho with survivalist parents who never sent her to school and ultimately ended up getting a PhD at Cambridge, which is so out there it reads like a novel—but it's not, which makes it even more out there.

214laurenbufferd
Editado: Abr 6, 2018, 10:58am

OOOh, I'd read that Educated.

I agree about the Gurba - it's a cool book and her voice isn't quite like any I'd read. Humor is what saves and sustains her and not in any ho-hum channeling my pain into stand-up way comedy way but in a life-giving, take-no-prisoners, crucial, burn it down to the ground and then rebuild way. I'd love to hear her perform - she's a spoken word artist as well. And yes, gorgeous.

It doesn't seem book club-y to me but Julie, I don't know your club.

I finished Fever at Dawn which was sweet but a bit vague where it needed to be sharp and visa versa. I can't recommend it (though I am passing it on to a young friend whose grandfather was in a Hungarian POW camp) but it's not bad. I don't think Gardos is a writer, it's a bit stiff. But the story is lovely and based on his parents who met as pen friends when they were Hungarian refugees in Swedish hospitals although I get the feeling that his dad was a first class shit. I also read it in two days.

I liked Invitation to a Beheading a lot. It's based on the Nabokov marriage but mostly told by a young Russian émigré who works at an elite girls boarding school. She gets involved with the Russian novelist (here called Leo Orlov) and then co-conspires to kill his wife. It's a little plotty but the writing is so gorgeous and seductive, I didn't much care. I think ti would appeal to the usual Readerville/BB/LT suspects.

I am reading Celt's first book now The Daughters which is similarly over-the-top plotwise but also beautifully written - about an opera singer trying to regain her voice after a family curse.

The thing that interests me the most about Celt is that she's a also a cartoonist. Her blog Love Among the Lampreys features her animal cartoons and they are FAB.

I am still reading Throw Away Unopened but finding it very painful so can only read a few pages at a time. Aging is a bitch and family is so fucked up.

215laurenbufferd
Abr 6, 2018, 10:59am

Sorry, I don't know why italics.

216mkunruh
Editado: Abr 6, 2018, 4:34pm

I read Fever at Dawn as Fever Dream and thought, 'wow, we read very different books' since I'd never use "sweet" to describe it. And, guess what? We _did_ read different books!

I finished Gentleman in Moscow on my way home yesterday, and so got to start Landmarks on my to work this morning. Such a treat. Thanks for that rec Niki.

on edit (much later): Yesterday, 5 Goodreads friends, (in a row) gave Tayari Jones' American Marriage 5/5 stars. So its now very high on my imaginary TBR pile.

217lisapeet
Abr 12, 2018, 7:07am

I found that passage from Mean that I liked. In it, Gurba has just written a paper for a college art class on Hannah Wilke's exhibit of self-portrait photographs taken while she was dying of cancer:

I held my graded critique of Intra-Venus. Ten out of ten was written in green ink at the top. In the margin beside my second paragraph were the words, "Yes, I agree. She was BRAVE."

I watched the grad student's sweater sleeves jiggle while she passed back the other critiques. I said, "Excuse me?"

"Yes?" she answered.

"What do you find brave about Hannah Wilke's work?" I asked.

In a tone you use to explain the obvious, she answered, "Well, it's that… she was so beautiful."

I looked at the grad student like I needed more.

She added, "She was so beautiful, and she let us see that beauty destroyed."

I thought this was an unsatisfactory answer. Maybe the grad student's mom wasn't a beautiful woman whom she got to watch age. Every pretty woman who lives a long life gets to perform an art project called "watch my beauty disintegrate." It's not revolutionary. It just happens.

218lisapeet
Abr 12, 2018, 11:32am

Also, last week I read Tara Westover's Educated. She grew up in a fundamentalist, survivalist, very dysfunctional and often violent Mormon family and didn't set foot in a classroom until she was 17, barely qualifying as homeschooled—she had LDS scripture and some ancient textbooks lying around the house to explore or not as she wanted, and mostly worked in her dad's incredibly hazardous junkyard from age 10 on—and she ended up getting a PhD from Cambridge and taking this extremely scholarly path.

It was a really fascinating memoir of reinvention, not just moving from outsider to mainstream or unschooled to academically adept, but how she forcibly reoriented her own internal world map. The first part of the book was more of a dysfunctional-family page-turner than I expected from reading reviews, a barrage of violence and mental illness and a jaw-dropping amount of physical injury—it boggles the mind how any of these people were still walking upright by the book's end—but it all served a purpose, and painted a good solid picture of the emotional and psychological boundaries she had to work so hard to redraw. Westover tells her story well, and of course it's all the more dramatic for not being a novel. But she manages to pull no punches and at the same time not edge over into pathos. As someone who's recreated myself in very comparatively small ways, but still thinks about all the tiny choices that went into something so momentous (to me), I found her story really affecting. I wonder if she'll write more popular work or settle into the academic life that seems to suit her so well.

Now I'm reading Morgan Jerkins's essay collection This Will Be My Undoing: Living at the Intersection of Black, Female, and Feminist in (White) America. It was my pick for my new book club and I think it'll be super interesting to talk about in that group.

219mkunruh
Abr 12, 2018, 5:00pm

I was eyeing that book Lisa, so good to know it's worth reading. nice review, btw.

Landmarks continues to be lovely. I went to sleep the other night listening to the word list - who needs meditation when you have some reading landscape words outloud. I need to get a print copy so I can use it as a reference going forward. I also want to read The Living Mountain now, and I suspect my wish list will only grow as I listen.

220alans
Editado: Abr 12, 2018, 8:51pm

Junot Diaz’s piece in this week’s New Yorker is probably one of the most powerful and mind-shattering things they’ve published in years. A monumental heart-breaking work.

221Nancy_Sirvent
Abr 12, 2018, 9:14pm

I could not agree more, alan. So heartbreaking. I've never read his work, but now I want to.

222laurenbufferd
Abr 13, 2018, 10:19am

I am looking forward to reading that. Well, maybe that's the wrong phrase. But you know what I mean.

Lisa, you are reading everything I want to be reading!

I found To Throw Away Unopened very difficult but also very worth reading . It has none of the yeah yeah feel goodness of Clothes Clothes Clothes which was all about punk and London and overcoming obstacles to be a relevant artist. This was the aftermath, dealing with the death of both parents, and trying to make sense of what sounds like a very troubling childhood. But it takes a good writer who can handle that kind of introspection and make it interesting to the reader. I came out of it with more respect for her than ever but also some sadness.

It also has one of the most horrible and kind of funny death bed scene I've ever read.

The Daughters was a bit ho-hum. Not much of a story but seriously, what a package! Celt's really a gifted stylist. The thing I liked the best about it was that it took place in Chicago so there were lots of wonderful landmarks.

I am reading Small Country by Gael Faye which is really quite good. Coming of age story in Burundi at the time of the war in Ruanda. Its won all kind of prizes in France and tbh, my expectations were pretty low but it's quite an interesting look at the idylls of childhood before a war in a country I know very little about.

Faye is also a singer/songwriter - his work is kind of ambient French pop with a little rap thrown in, also better than it sounds.

223alans
Abr 13, 2018, 12:42pm

Two excellent articles on the brand new James Comey book in today's Times. Unbelievable stuff. It just never ends.
I really wonder what impact the Diaz article will have-will people remember it down the road as that article that just shook people to their core. I tried to find discussion of it online but there
is little apart from the sensational aspect of the article. I really think this will go down as one of the greatest works of memoir/journalism in a very long time.

224Nancy_Sirvent
Editado: Abr 14, 2018, 7:37pm

I just purchased two beautiful hardcovers:

The Overstory - Richard Powers

Elizabeth Bishop: A Miracle for Breakfast - Megan Marshall

(Look who finally learned to link.)

225lisapeet
Abr 15, 2018, 8:21am

I'm really interested to read the Powers—it just sounds so deeply weird yet well-written, and it's been getting all kinds of reviews to that effect.

For those who are OK with Amazon, Educated is slightly on sale in Kindle form today—$6.99. (If you want to give LibraryThing a little love, go through my touchstone link or any LT link to the "direct" Amazon page that you can find on the upper right of the book's LT page, and they get a tiny kickback if you order anything. Also works for non-Amazon sellers.)

226cindydavid4
Editado: Abr 15, 2018, 6:15pm

Christopher Moore is coming to the valley this month. Bought the new 'bible cover' version of Lamb' and hope to get a signature. Rereading it for the upteenth time

227laurenbufferd
Editado: Abr 17, 2018, 4:54pm

I loved Megan Marshall's biography of The Peabody Sisters and though I haven't read it yet, I am sure her bio of Margaret Fuller is great too. Needless to say, the Bishop is on my list.

Small Country was really really good. It's a first novel by Gael Faye and it's about growing up in Burundi right before the Rwandan civil war in 1995. The main character has this really idyllic childhood which is totally ripped apart when the war starts and violence crosses over the border. Like Faye, the character is mixed race - in fact, I think the novel is in part autobiographical. It's short - less than 200 pages - all the more admirable as so much is packed in - the end of innocence, the need to take sides, the question of identity.

I am reviewing it for Book Page.

I spent the weekend with a very nice Soho mystery The Big Both Ways written by the guy who is also the poet laureate of Alaska! Anarchists, miners, a boat trip up the Inland Passage, a precocious child and a bird. And characters who had more lives than cats - every time I thought they were goners, they popped back up again.

228LyddieO
Abr 21, 2018, 11:24am

After reading, and loving, the March Trilogy, I decided to read The Spy Who Came in from the Cold because of an NPR interview with the author a few months ago. Having never read a spy novel before, I assumed it would be mostly plot-driven, with little characterization, so that was fine until the last page, when the main character's actions didn't seem warranted based on his earlier behavior. So I'm done with Le Carre, but still glad to have tried a new-to-me genre.

229cindydavid4
Abr 21, 2018, 12:40pm

I just finished with my reread of Lamb and love it even more than I first did, in fact enjoy it more because Im getting more of the references from my other reads of the same time period. Also finished dying inside for our sci fi book group and loved it - need to read more Silverberg i think. Think I'll be reading the new one by Luis Urrea House of Broken Angels next

230cindydavid4
Abr 21, 2018, 12:42pm

>224 Nancy_Sirvent: Nancy I've been eyeing that Powers book all month - let me know what you think (oh and congrats on the fine art of linking!)

231Nancy_Sirvent
Abr 21, 2018, 2:47pm

Cindy, I always think of you when a new Powers book is released. Many years ago you convinced me to read In the Time of Our Singing and convinced me to keep going when I started losing interest. It turned out to be an all-time favorite read, and I've also loved some of his others. The reviews of the new one have been extraordinary.

But lately I've been reading Theft by Finding, David Sedaris' journals. It's perfect before-bed reading because there are all these discrete pieces. And, as usual, Sedaris is funny and peculiar.

232cindydavid4
Abr 21, 2018, 10:11pm

>231 Nancy_Sirvent: thx :) I need to reread that sometime.

233Nancy_Sirvent
Abr 21, 2018, 10:37pm

I'll let you know about the new one. As far as I've heard, the main characters are trees. I'm good with that; people are overrated.

234lisapeet
Abr 22, 2018, 8:00am

Well, if Richard Adams could pull off rabbits in Watership Down, I'm willing to give Richard Powers the benefit of the doubt with trees.

I finished Neon in Daylight last night, which I enjoyed even though it didn't really go anywhere. I like a good New York story—especially a good downtown New York story—and Hoby carries the book with a smart, sharp observational voice. Not a lot of plot, and only one character actually makes any kind of inner progress—and not very much at that. But as a slightly acid-tongued travelogue, it was fun. Hoby has a good sense of looking around and taking in the city, and for that alone it was a worthwhile read (though if you're not amused by tales of wayward downtown New Yorkers, then skip it).

Now back to This Will Be My Undoing, which I'm finding both interesting—she has some sharp takes on moving around the world as a black woman—and a bit frustrating, because she's also looking at all this with very young eyes, and I think that makes her more reactive than serves her objectives. Although I am also middle-aged and cranky, which may color my opinions just a bit.

235laurenbufferd
Abr 22, 2018, 1:06pm

And speaking of cranky I just read A Black Englishman and I think I am officially done with books about India and the Raj by white people.

Full disclosure: I am trying to whittle down some of the insane book stacks in my house and I don't know how long this book has been there. And the introductory note about how the book was based on the author's grandparent who was institutionalized both in India and in England after Independence hooked me. But it's such an icky mix of exoticism and wish fulfillment, not to mention the fact that the narrator seemed much more 1990s than 1920s. And the novel has this total happy ending where there should have been no happy ending anywhere in sight so I just felt manipulated and slightly complicit.

No.

Now reading two books that were left in my Free Little Library - David Lebovitz's The Sweet Life in Paris which is funny with recipes and Hilma Wolitzer's very charming Hearts. I'll put them right back when I'm done.

236southernbooklady
Abr 24, 2018, 3:07pm



I finished Bernd Heinrich's Mind of the Raven this past weekend -- a book I thoroughly enjoyed but I'm not sure that I would give to others. It's a book about exactly what the title says -- an investigation into the thought processes of ravens, based largely on studies the Heinrich made of both wild ravens he has studied, as well as a number of raven pairs he raised.

It's not primarily a narrative, nor is it really written for the layperson, although I think it is written for the serious birder. Heinrich assumes his readers don't need to be convinced that his enthusiasm for the species is warranted, and he doesn't bother to justify either his own interest or his assumption that his readers share it. Presumably, that's why they are reading his book in the first place: because they are into ravens.

Instead, the book is all about methodology: what hypothesis needs to be tested, and how he does the testing, and what the results confirm or disprove. Do ravens recognize their own eggs by their color? When and why do they hide caches of food? When are strangers tolerated and when not? Do ravens follow wolves and why? Can they problem solve? How much of the problem solving is conscious and how much is just learned behavior?

There is a fair amount of the obsessive scientist to the book that I, for one, found appealing -- at one point he freeze-dries his own scalp with dry ice to see if it will work as a form of freeze-branding. He eats bumblebees to see what they taste like and to see if he'll get stung (he has a theory that ravens find the taste of bumble bees repugnant).

And being an obsessive scientist, he questions everything. He is diligent in picking apart what we see, what we think we see, what motivations we ascribe to a raven, and what can actually be proved. The whole last part of the book, which deals with conscious thought and intention and the reported ability of the raven to plan, deliberately and consciously, for the future -- is really pretty fascinating. It made me think about the nature of thinking, to be honest.

But he's all about the experimental method and the proof. He's not interested in turning his ravens into characters for the reader to become emotionally invested in even though it is clear all of them have what we'd call "personalities." Case in point -- the section where he's trying to determine just how much problem solving is present involves a lengthy description of several ravens and various rocks and pieces of meat dangling on strings. The experiment is repeated multiple times with controlled variations (sometimes, he crosses the strings! whoa!), and, when his write up is rejected by a scientific journal, he repeats this experiment not once, not twice, but something like six different times in order to confront objections his peers have made about his assumptions. We, the readers, get to read about every step of the process. It was awesome.

The end result? I did not start out reading the book being particularly interested in ravens, but damn if I'm not interested now. And Heinrich's general approach to life -- endlessly curious, relentlessly questioning everything he sees -- driven to test his assumptions. Well, in our current age of "fake news" and science hoaxes and social-media-powered conspiracies, I think Heinrich, and the scientists like him, might be a kind of quiet superhero.

237lisapeet
Editado: Abr 25, 2018, 6:15am

That sounds very cool. I have a really nice book on corvid-human interaction called In the Company of Crows and Ravens, from Yale Univ. Press—I've only dipped in and out but it looks like it's worth a read straight through.

Finished Morgan Jerkins's This Will Be My Undoing: Living at the Intersection of Black, Female, and Feminist in (White) America, which grew on me as I went. She's smart and articulate, and juggles a lot of sometimes contradictory thoughts about blackness, womanhood, and privilege. Certainly I can learn from what she has to say. Her youth works both for and against her—against because as I mentioned earlier sometimes it feels like all her triggers are on the surface of her writing, which doesn't always serve her as an essayist with a point to develop. But on the other hand, her enthusiasm and earnestness are totally in her favor, and keep her thoughts fresh and far away from any kind of polemics. I wonder if the essays are presented in any kind of chronological writing order, or if it was just well edited as a collection, because her thought and expression do progress throughout to a really triumphant note... that's probably my secret shameful love of the fist-pump ending showing, but whatever—it worked. I'm so interested to talk about this in my book club next month, both because it was my pick and because I think it's a great group of people to get into this collection with—diverse ages and races, all feminist (that's loosely the book club theme), all very outspoken.

(I like the idea of the thumbnails, Nicki. Who knows the html to get the text to wrap around the image?)

238laurenbufferd
Editado: Abr 25, 2018, 9:50am

OOh, I like the thumbnails too. How do I do that?

Funny thing as I was reading and enjoying The Sweet Life in Paris I saw on goodreads that I'd actually read this before. People, I have zero memory of it. not a recipe, not an anecdote. Is this what old age is going to be like? Still, it could be worse.

I loved Hilma Wolitzer's Hearts. The novel is at least 30 years old but it still feels fresh and funny. A classic road trip story, a recently widowed woman and her step daughter set off cross country to find the girl's biological mother. Hijinks ensue. One thing about Wolitzer mere and filles is that there is truly nothing human they are afraid of. The compassion quotient is so high in their novels. I do love that about them.

And speaking of faulty memories (above), my husband brought home a pile of discarded books from the high school library, including The Key to Rebecca I was sure I'd read this before, heck, I know I sold it when it came out and I was working in a bookstore and I was such a Rebecca freak...But I'm five chapters in and nothing is familiar. Characters, plotlines, zip, nada.

At least I've got my health.

239Nancy_Sirvent
Abr 25, 2018, 10:27am

Funny coincidence. I was looking through by "Books Read" list on Goodreads yesterday and I kept thinking, "I read THAT??"

240southernbooklady
Abr 25, 2018, 10:42am

re html and images on LT: you can add attributes like

height="300" (makes the image 300 pixels high)

width="200" (makes it 200 pixels wide)

alt="some text here" (displays text if the image can't be shown, and is important for accessibility)

text wrapping is done with

align="left" (or right)

. . . but I'm not sure if LT recognizes that attribute. The allowed options are limited.

241lisapeet
Editado: Abr 25, 2018, 4:20pm

I did the align, but the text doesn't wrap. I'm thinking that might be beyond the capabilities of LT.

The code for inserting images is:



(Which is an image itself, so you can't cut and paste--sorry, I don't have the patience to figure out how to make it so the posting window doesn't think it's actual code.)

I don't bother with the "alt" or "height"--for "width, 125 seems like an unobtrusive size. For the book covers, I'm just copying the image location of the LibraryThing thumbnails on the book's pages. That goes where the example has "smiley.gif", in quotes.

ETA--I don't use the "alt" for book thumbnails. Otherwise it's good practice, though. I guess I should use it all the time but I'm la-Z.

242southernbooklady
Abr 28, 2018, 8:02pm

Picked up Power's The Overstory today and sort of sank right into it. I seem to be going from one intense book to the next this year.

243laurenbufferd
Editado: Abr 29, 2018, 2:23pm

I really liked The Key to Rebecca speaking of sinking into a novel. It felt very old fashioned but at the same time fun. No desire to read more Follett though.

Starting Kate Christensen's The Last Cruise.

244LyddieO
Abr 29, 2018, 7:32pm

I'm playing hooky from the books I should read for The Madwoman Upstairs, a novel about the last descendant of the Brontes' paternal line, who is studying literature at Oxford. There is a lot of analyses of the novels from different perspectives, while the protagonist works through her personal issues. It has been a long time since I read any of them, but this is adding an interesting element to my memories of the Brontes' works.

245karenwall
Abr 30, 2018, 4:45pm

Hi, everyone. I haven’t been here in a while and will catch up later. I don’t remember how to do links so forgive me while I take a refresher course. Just finished Less by Andrew Sean Greer which I really enjoyed, especially the marvelous ending. Looking forward to the new Meg Wolitzer in a day or two. And my husband and I are reading Russian Roulette together.

246DG_Strong
Editado: Abr 30, 2018, 9:05pm

The Recovering It's a whopping good book. Approaching Darkness Visible territory.

247laurenbufferd
Mayo 2, 2018, 1:13pm

I would totally read that Madwoman Upstairs Bronte book.

Here to tell y'all that The Last Cruise is hitting that sweet spot between beach read and literary fiction. A group of people on a 1950s style cruise from Long Beach to Hawaii; a journalist turned Maine farmer's wife, a Hungarian line cook and an Israeli classical string quartet. Delicious.

248mkunruh
Editado: Mayo 4, 2018, 10:53am

I per-ordered that, so good to hear!

I have about 30 pages left in the Enchantress of Florence and I left it at home (dammit). So I started The Seventh Function of Language -- Roland Barthes hit by a car, is dying, and the narrator (who might be fictional) is trying to figure out who killed him. Binet has a light hand with the theory and invites the reader into the fun, so, unexpectedly, it is a light read.

I'm most of the way through Landmarks, but home life is a bit complicated these days, my attention is shot and I like to focus when listening to it, so I listened to Travis McGee this morning instead (the first one, A Deep Blue Good-Bye). I don't know why the MacDonald mysteries are so comforting, but they are.

I'm about a 1/3 into Who Fears Death -- a title I keep having to look up -- I'm a bit impatient with it, but willing to give it some space.

249cindydavid4
Mayo 6, 2018, 12:10am

Ok now that the strike is over and us greedy teachers got gobs of money (um no), I have a chance to sit and talk about books. Actually had a great time reading another Moore book Serpent of Venice and after finishing got a used copy of Fool and am quite enjoying it as well.

While I was at the used book store, picked up Hyperion and Name of the Wind , both recommended by fans on the GOT site. Not sure which I will start with, but they look intersting.

250lisapeet
Mayo 6, 2018, 12:12pm



I took a brief detour from my other books in progress because my library hold on Something Light, by Margery Sharp, came in. She wrote The Rescuers series and a lot of other children's books, but also adult work as well. Something Light was exactly that—a frothy and agreeable tale of a 1950s British woman tired of scrambling to make ends meet who decides what she needs is a husband. Of course you know that after several disastrous forays she'll end up with someone who's lurking in plain sight—I don't even think that counts as a spoiler in this kind of novel—and the question, of course, is who? And how will the scales fall from here eyes, etc.

This kind of snappy little British tale of love and woe isn't my usual fare, but a few of my dear book friends—LuAnn, I think, and SP—were reading it/had read it and were talking it up, plus the cover they posted on FB was just marvelous (it's the one I used here, even though the cover of my ebook was different... but it's an ebook, so I can pretend it has whatever cover I want, dammit. It was fun, and I was won over by the fact that Louisa's a dog photographer. What a perfect profession for a struggling career woman in mid-century England! I couldn't help hoping she sticks with it even after her successful nuptial campaign.

251lisapeet
Editado: Mayo 6, 2018, 12:29pm



I've got a super busy reading month—at the end of May I'm moderating a panel for Library Journal's Day of Dialog, which is an all-day conference where publishers and writers sit on panels for a crowd of librarians. The LJ Reviews editor, Barbara Hoffert, asked me if I'd do this one—it's on writers reporting—and I'm totally stoked. The authors/books are:

John Carreyrou, Bad Blood: Secrets and Lies in a Silicon Valley Startup
Tom Mohr, Burning Down the Haus: Punk Rock, Revolution, and the Fall of the Berlin Wall
Eli Saslow, Rising Out of Hatred: The Awakening of a Former White Nationalist
Susan Orlean, The Library Book (about the 1986 fire that burnt down the LA Public Library, which I already had on my list plus I'm a total fan of hers)
Mona Hanna-Attisha, What the Eyes Don't See: A Story of Crisis, Resistance, and Hope in an American City—she's the pediatrician who broke the story of the water crisis in Flint, and has won a bunch of humanitarian awards, and I'm SUCH A FANGIRL.

This is going to be fun, but boy do I have my reading cut out for me. I've started with Burning Down the Haus, which is terrific so far—I know a solid lot about the early punk scene in the U.S., having been active in it in my teens and early 20s, and a fair amount about its beginnings in the UK, but nothing about the origins of punk in East Germany. Unsurprisingly, the movement and music were born of serious political issues, but the progression is fascinating—people, largely teenagers at first, getting jailed for dressing punk, gathering at clubs, playing in bands. The musicians wouldn't write down their lyrics in case the Stasi searched their bedrooms (often thanks to mom and dad), because those were evidence for jailable offenses against the state.

I was looking at my reading list for the year and realized that this is the first book by a man I've read all year. Nothing I set out to do on purpose—it just shook out that way. Guess I'm more interested in what the ladies are writing these days.

252DG_Strong
Mayo 6, 2018, 2:15pm

ohhhh, the Orlean book is preordered!

253cindydavid4
Mayo 6, 2018, 3:05pm

yep, same here!

254Kat.Warren
Mayo 7, 2018, 12:25am

Orlean writing about a library? I'm in.

255mkunruh
Editado: Mayo 7, 2018, 10:24am

Lisa, I was looking at my reading list for this year and the majority of them are written by women too. I don't think it's me entirely -- I'm not intentionally avoiding male authors. I wondered if publishing has made the shift and are marketing female writers more actively?

256JulieCarter
Mayo 7, 2018, 10:36am

Barely reading again....why can't I go back to a few years ago when all I wanted to do was read? (Pretty sure the answer is a combo of depression, anxiety, current affairs, Facebook, and TV.) I started the first Nevada Barr mystery, Track of the Cat, and it's pretty good. I read about 80 pages in one evening, which is not that much for a little mystery like this, but made me happy. But I haven't finished it yet, for other reasons. Also reading The Sparrow by Mary Doria Russell for my book club. It was my pick. I know many of you read it together at Readerville and I gather it's rather polarizing. So I expect some good conversation at our meeting, which is supposed to be at my house...if I can get it presentable enough to not completely embarrass myself. I also started I'll Be Gone in the Dark, since they have caught the alleged Golden State Killer. It really does make me sad that Michelle McNamara missed it. I knew who she was because I'm so into true crime stuff, and I didn't know she was married to Patton Oswalt until after she died. So I'm glad she's getting more recognition for her own work. All three of these books are good, so I hate that I'm not reading very much. But I did catch up with 5 seasons of Arrow on Netflix....ugh, kill me.

Cindy, I'll be interested to see if you enjoy Hyperion and Name of the Wind. I've read both and disliked both (definitely doesn't mean you will!). They're both exceedingly loooooong, so that many parts of them are just a waste of time and really boring. I think I've just discovered that I'm not the kind of person to normally enjoy the 1000 page-a-book series, of which both of those are first books (I did like the GoT books). So, I don't like short stories and I don't like super long stories. Do I like anything anymore? I think I'm having a years-long existential crisis or something. Anyway...sorry for the digression. Cindy, I think you'll really love Name of the Wind, and maybe Hyperion too. Name of the Wind definitely seems like your kind of book, and I have several friends who RAVED about it and basically hate me now because I didn't love it. I even tried to read the second one because they loved that one too, and I haven't been able to finish it. It's just not for me! (Another first-in-a-series that they loved and I hated I will now recommend to you! Speaks the Nightbird by Robert R. McCammon, first Matthew Corbett series....I've never been able to finish it.)

257karenwall
Editado: Mayo 7, 2018, 5:06pm

I've got The Female Persuasion from the library. Excited. Lauren, I read your interview with her. Good job.

258laurenbufferd
Editado: Mayo 8, 2018, 1:08pm

Thanks. I still feel good about that book although it's soured a tiny bit in my mind. I think she missed something. BUT it's still so great. A tiny quibble.

I m about halfway through the new Rebecca Makkai The Great Believers which is set in Chicago during the mid 1980s right in the middle of the AIDS crisis. It's weird to read a novel that you feel like you could have been a minor character in - not to make a situation about me - but I wrote theater reviews for a gay paper, went through the hospice program at Illinois Masonic and worked with PWAs at a few different residences, protested at the AMA conference and shopped at the Brown Elephant. So it's hard to separate my own experience of that time with the events of the book.

The novel is about a group of men, some of whom have tested positive, some quite sick and others not. The main character is a development director at a small university gallery and there's a subplot about a potential donor with a collection of post-impressionist French art. Another plot, set in the present, concerns a woman who lost her brother to AIDS and is currently in Paris to visit her estranged daughter.

It's a lot.

259karenwall
Editado: Mayo 13, 2018, 10:48pm

Ignore.

260lisapeet
Mayo 13, 2018, 12:52pm

I finished Burning Down the Haus: Punk Rock, Revolution, and the Fall of the Berlin Wall, which I liked quite a lot. It hit a bunch of my sweet spots: history as viewed through a specific lens, particularly events that happened in my adult lifetime, and early punk rock. In this case, as the title would indicate, the book focuses on the fall of the Berlin wall and what part was played by the early punk movement in the DDR and eastern Europe, from 1981 through 1989. Mohr has good sources in addition to opened Stasi records, which he admits are pretty dry, and his narrative is very engaging—he's obviously making sure his voice matches up to the subject, without falling into total inarticulacy, so lots of short sharp sentences, sometimes repeated like song choruses, and plenty of profanity.

As someone who was involved in the downtown NYC punk scene starting in roughly 1981, I was fascinated by the contrast. Note that I ID what I was part of as a scene, rather than a movement—it may have stemmed from adolescent (and post-adolescent) rebellion and a dislike of conformity on my end, but it didn't carry the same kind of life-and-death charter—no one I knew was going to jail for their beliefs (other than for public intoxication, maybe), or having to dodge police to make the music they wanted to make or attend concerts or marches. So even though I know my history and have read a fair amount about the end of the DDR and the Communist regime at the time, this was an interesting filter to drive home the import of what a lot of young people were dealing with there and then.

It also sparked a wave of nostalgia, and I stayed up too late last night Googling photos of punks in the early 80s East Village and falling down a few where-are-they-now rabbit holes.

Now I'm on to What the Eyes Don't See: A Story of Crisis, Resistance, and Hope in an American City by Mona Hanna-Attisha, about her life and work with the Flint water crisis.

261lisapeet
Mayo 13, 2018, 8:51pm

>258 laurenbufferd: The Makkai sounds good, Lauren, for just those reasons you listed—even though I was in NY and not Chicago, I bet there's a similar vibe. It's one of the reasons I'm always a sucker for NYC books set in that era, that sweet twinge of familiarity.

262laurenbufferd
Editado: Mayo 19, 2018, 11:31am

Sheesh, where is everyone?

The Makkai was good. It was a bit kitchen-sinky and if if I was the editor, I'd have told her to cut a few big reveals at the end that didn't feel necessary. She says some interesting thing in the afterword about appropriation and allyship - as a heterosexual woman writing about AIDs etc so I was glad she acknowledged that as I found myself thinking about it at various points in the book. And yet, it was a part of my life too - and everyone's life who lost someone or who had their consciousness raised when someone famous died from it. So there is value, I think, even in a view from the periphery.

I read Blue Plate Special with very mixed feelings. I was so horrified by the father's violence and then the abuse at the Waldorf School that I never quite got past that - so the NY years and the marriages all felt a bit like chatter. to make it worse, I read the essay she'd written for Elle about coming to terms with the abuse and how she didn't even realize the impact of it until after she'd written the memoir. So I mostly felt discombobulated and upset.

I read Country Dark in two sittings and loved it. It's my first Offutt but won't be the last. DG, do you want this? It's very you. Bootlegging and all.

Now reading The Kindness of Enemies because it's been on the shelf for sooooo long.

What are you reading?

263lisapeet
Editado: Mayo 19, 2018, 12:48pm



I guess they're out enjoying the lovely spring weather? Or else they're home reading while it drizzles, coldly, outside, which is more how things are in New York.

Finished What the Eyes Don't See: A Story of Crisis, Resistance, and Hope in an American City, which was thoroughly well-done account of how Hanna-Attisha broke the Flint water crisis, taking on the indifference (and mendacity) of city, state, and federal agencies to advocate for the city's children. She frames her story well, moving between the context of her family story—activist Iraqis for generations, and immigrant parents who caught the tail end of the American Dream but made sure their children knew of the world's injustices—her own environmental activism as a teen and college student, her life as a pediatrician in an already economically-troubled city, and, front and center, the very dramatic story of her discovery of, and battle against, the urgent crisis of lead-contaminated water that affected the city's already disadvantaged residents. (Was that sentence long enough?)

Her recounting of her fight against the powers that be—all against the ticking clock of children's lead exposure—was well written, with plenty of suspense even though anyone who follows the news knows what happened, and her sense of urgency comes through clearly. It's a gripping story, and an important one. I hope this book gets a lot of play, if only to inspire future resisters and activists to stand up for what's right.

I was impressed by Hanna-Attisha just from reading the news coverage of the Flint crisis, but after getting the whole story in her voice I just think she's awesome. I'm so, so looking forward to doing this panel that she's a part of, just to get to meet her. And Susan Orlean! I'm usually not much of a fan-girl, but those two are totally going to make me go eeeeeee. (Not really—I'll be professional as hell. But inside, yeah.)

And speaking of Susan Orlean, now I'm reading The Library Book, her story of the 1986 LA Public Library fire. I love her reporting... this is what you get when you don't have to answer to an editor who wants you to take out all the oddball adjectives.

264lisapeet
Mayo 19, 2018, 12:54pm

Oh and Lauren, yes on the wincing at the early parts of Blue Plate Special. It didn't quite go to the introspective places it deserved, I thought, but obviously Christensen wanted to write a different book than that one. Gonna bump that Makkai up the pile, though.

265cindydavid4
Mayo 19, 2018, 11:31pm

Loved Kindness of Enemies. Spent some time looking for the background history - interesting, and heart breaking

266DG_Strong
Mayo 20, 2018, 10:10am

I want that Orlean book so badly!

267cindydavid4
Mayo 20, 2018, 3:20pm

So do I!

So I have been eyeing Circe,like what Ive read so far, but wonder, do I need to read Song of Achilles first?

268lynn_r
Mayo 21, 2018, 11:48am

No, not at all.

269mkunruh
Mayo 21, 2018, 1:24pm

I didn't like the first Makki -- would that impact my liking of her new one?

I'm listening to The Transcriptionist and loving it. Very much a bookballon book. And reading Something Light, which is lots of fun. I finished Priestdaddy. I read it immediately after Hunger, so I was a bit memoired out -- not always my favorite literary form -- but it was an interesting and often wild ride. I think her fabulous sentences get in the way of form, but she does manage to corral them at various points into something that is almost coherent.

270lisapeet
Mayo 21, 2018, 2:13pm

Oh good, I've had The Transcriptionist on the virtual pile for a while and keep thinking it's my kind of thing. But... so much to read. I heard Patricia Lockwood interviewed on the Longform podcast last summer and it really made me want to read that one too.

Anyway, the Orlean is a lot of fun and will be up the alleys of many folks here. Total insider baseball for me but I'm still finding a lot to enjoy and marvel at. She uses language in this great precise way, something I also love about John McPhee, which makes for very synesthetic reading--always a good thing. I do need to hurry through it because I have two more books to read for this panel and want to get the authors their questions before the long weekend, but I think I'll save my skimming for those two, and get back to them afterward if they draw me in.

I thought I would finish it this weekend but driving and sleeping and guacamole-making took up all my time somehow. Oh and kitten-adopting-out--we've gotten rid of all but two of our litter of five, and another friend said she'd take the fantastically chilled out baby daddy cat. All of them are living in my son's room, and since he's coming for the long weekend I'm very interested in homing them all by Friday, in time to scrub and fumigate. It's an interesting life I lead.

271southernbooklady
Mayo 21, 2018, 6:43pm

>270 lisapeet: She uses language in this great precise way, something I also love about John McPhee, which makes for very synesthetic reading

I'm sold.

272laurenbufferd
Mayo 22, 2018, 10:41am

Kindness of Enemies has really been a surprise. I'm not sure what I was expecting but the depth of the characters and complexity of the situations are fascinating. Also a world I know very little about. One story line is about a Russian-Sudanese academic involved in post 9/11 politics while researching the 19th century Russian conquest of the Caucasus. The other is about Imam Shamil who fought against the Russians from the 1840s onward. His son was kidnapped and held hostage by the Tsar, in retaliation, Shamil kidnapped a Georgian princess.

Anyway, the whole novel is totally engrossing.

273lisapeet
Mayo 22, 2018, 10:49am

>272 laurenbufferd: Ooh that sounds like my kinda thing.

275laurenbufferd
Mayo 22, 2018, 12:47pm

Kat, I just posted that on FB. I read Gael Faye's book about Burundi (Petit Pays) and thought it was really good.

Lisa, I am loaning it to a friend but if the novel makes its way back to me, I'll send it on. I usually find these historical fictions books where two narratives run on parallel tracks to be very formulaic but this one isn't at all.

276lisapeet
Editado: Mayo 22, 2018, 1:32pm

>275 laurenbufferd: Thanks! And no hurry—NYPL also has the ebook. Because I checked RIGHT AWAY.

277lisapeet
Mayo 22, 2018, 2:08pm

>274 Kat.Warren: Stealing for the Upcoming Books thread

278cindydavid4
Editado: Mayo 23, 2018, 8:21pm

>272 laurenbufferd: I was thrilled with that book - I usually have trouble with HF books that tack on a modern day narrative - usually the latter could be dispensed with. But this time both period were woven so tightly. Probably helped that I did not know the history of Shamil. The more modern section I sorta figured out what was going to happen but not in the way it did. One of my top books that year, highly recommended.

279laurenbufferd
Mayo 24, 2018, 10:12am

Totally agree with you, cindy. I was completely engrossed and yes, the fact that the modern story didn't pan out the way I thought it would just added to the strength of the novel. There were a few loose threads but not enough to detract.

I loved the character of the Georgian princess.

I started reading Lidia Bastianich's memoir My American Dream - there's nary a recipe, rather it's a story of her family, why and how they escaped from Yugoslavia to Italy and then emigrated to NY. It's not hugely exciting but it's lovely and tender.

280Nancy_Sirvent
Mayo 24, 2018, 4:08pm

Lidia Bastianich did a Fresh Air interview promoting the book. She was fascinating--and lots of food talk.

281laurenbufferd
Mayo 25, 2018, 10:10am

I heard the tail of that interview and need to go back and listen to the whole thing. The book is lovely although a bit repetitive. It's certainly not one of those in-the-kitchen tell-alls, although she did work with Christopher Walken in his father's bakery when they were both teens. That's the extant of the hot gossip.

But I think she - and her husband and son- really did change the landscape of restaurant cooking and Italian food - it's nice to see her claim and get some credit.

282mkunruh
Mayo 25, 2018, 12:00pm

I finished Something Light, which was a perfect read for this past week and started Satin Island, which requires a bit more focus but also seems to be working for me -- an anthropologist embedded in a corporation whose job is to both help them untangle cultural trends and to observe their culture. Lots of Levi-Strauss.

283Nancy_Sirvent
Mayo 25, 2018, 1:19pm

I think I'm reading Female Persuasion this weekend.

284southernbooklady
Mayo 26, 2018, 7:02pm

So. The Overstory. What a frickin' book. It says it's a novel, but it is really more like eight novels -- I feel like I've been gone for months on some trip without access to the internet. I kind of want to go back. I also have a crush on "Plant-Patty."

Powers really does write beautifully, whether he's talking about redwood forests or suspect psychological studies of prison populations or MMORPG culture or what it feels like to have a stroke. Amazing.

285lisapeet
Mayo 26, 2018, 7:17pm

>284 southernbooklady: Oh far out. I'm looking forward to that one.

I haven't finished the Orlean yet, but I'm also reading chunks of the other two books to prep for the panel, Bad Blood: Secrets and Lies in a Silicon Valley Startup and Rising Out of Hatred: The Awakening of a Former White Nationalist. Neither is a book I would have picked up on my own, I think, but they're both really interesting, and compelling reads. It's driving me a bit nuts to have to skim and skip large chunks, but I'm going to be going back and reading them all the way through afterward—they're definitely good enough to warrant that.

I did come up with my questions for the panel and ran them by the editor who organized it, and she was happy with them—which was a load off my mind, since this is my first author panel. I need to write them up in coherent form and she'll send them along to the authors in advance. I'm really looking forward to this!

286southernbooklady
Mayo 27, 2018, 9:24am

>285 lisapeet: I'd like to know what you think of Rising Out of Hatred. It sounds like a good selection for this thing called "Bridging the Divide: The Open Discussion Project" which came about from a book club started by Quail Ridge Books in Raleigh, NC

https://www.quailridgebooks.com/bridging-divide-book-club

...but has been taken up by the American Booksellers Association and American Booksellers for Free Expression. The goal is to give bookstores tools and resources to host constructive events around polarizing issues/books/authors. It's pretty interesting to hear the QRB manager, Sarah Goddin, talk about how much work goes into getting people of completely opposite viewpoints into the same room and talking to (instead of "at") each other.

287GaylaBassham
Mayo 27, 2018, 10:42am

I was a little disappointed in The Female Persuasion; I thought the ending was a copout.

Right now I am reading Red Clocks, which feels very timely given the vote in Ireland this week, and so far I love it.

288karenwall
Editado: Mayo 27, 2018, 1:30pm

I agree about the ending, Gayla. Too much crammed in but I always enjoy Wolitzer, though I think The Interestings was better.

Just found out there's going to be a movie. Nicole Kidman is going to be Faith Frank.

289cindydavid4
Mayo 27, 2018, 1:55pm

Reading the great man. Took me a little bit to decide if I liked it too much, a little bit too much time in the characters' heads. But soon got caught up in the story. Not the best book in the world and rather predictable, but well written (loved Epicures Lament and just happened upon this one. Sort of what I need right now)

290DG_Strong
Mayo 28, 2018, 1:27pm

I'm reading my one yearly mystery, Auntie Poldi and the Sicilian Lions. It's translated from Italian -- unfortunately, I think the translation shows a little; it reads a little juvenile somehow -- and the plot all seems beside the point but it's not without some bits that are funny -- mainly the chapter titles, which are like old-timey "in which so and so happens" descriptions.

1. Describes how and why Poldi moves to Sicily and what her sisters-in-law think of it. Unable to function without her wig and a bottle of brandy, Poldi invites everyone to a roast pork lunch, makes her nephew an offer he can't refuse, and gets to know her neighbours in the Via Baronnessa. One of them goes missing shortly afterwards.

I've seen the main character described as a cross between Auntie Mame and Miss Marple; she's not, but it's summertime-amusing. I think it's a series; this is the first translated one.

291laurenbufferd
Editado: Mayo 30, 2018, 10:28am

I am really struggling with Flights and if I wasn't reviewing it, I'd maybe put it to the side. It's made up of lots of little short pieces all about travel, movement, flight. The main character - in revolt from the timid family vacations she took as a child with her parents, flings herself in to the world going anywhere and everywhere, telling strange and miraculous stories along the way.

I wish I was the kind of person who loved writers like Sebald and Kis but I'm not. I really need plot and character . The novel is very witty and there's lots to chew on but it's tough going and the maps that are sprinkled throughout feel very untethered to the text. It just won the Man Booker International prize.

It's interesting though because the original Polish title is Bieguni which is the name of a(perhaps fictional) wandering itinerant Slavic people - like gypsies or yogis. I know there's no way of selling that to an English speaking audience but its so much more indicative of what the reader is about to be getting into.

anyway, wish me luck

292Nancy_Sirvent
Mayo 30, 2018, 11:31am

Best of luck, Lauren, and thank you. Somebody has to do it.

293Rhondavu
Editado: Mayo 30, 2018, 12:02pm

I've put Red Clocks on my to read list. Thanks. It's good to see scifi handling such topics. Hope it's a good read, too.

294Rhondavu
Mayo 30, 2018, 12:07pm

Currently reading Into the Drowning Deep by Mira Grant. This west coast upmarket novel is turning out to be okay. I'm on chapter 7 and try to just ignore all the writing rules I've absorbed and just enjoy it. I'm succeeding so far.

295JulieCarter
Mayo 30, 2018, 2:07pm

Still reading The Sparrow. It's all very interesting, and I do like it, but what's the big freaking secret already? Gah, I hate how she's parsing out the lurid details, when she knows that's what everyone wants to know! And based on how many people hate the ending, I have a feeling I'm going to be throwing this across the room. Or not, I can't actually tell yet. But it will be good for our book club! I can already hear one woman bitching, but a lot of that will be just because I picked it.

296karenwall
Editado: Mayo 30, 2018, 9:26pm

I’ve never read it but is it possibly the most hated book ever discussed at Readerville? Someone please remind me of something in it that people really ridiculed. I just remember frequent mocking of it.

297gayla.bassham
Mayo 30, 2018, 4:42pm

I finished Red Clocks yesterday and I really loved it. It's not very plotty but character-driven.

298laurenbufferd
Mayo 30, 2018, 5:08pm

I laugh every time I think about it. The Sparrow.

299laurenbufferd
Mayo 30, 2018, 5:08pm

And, may I add, welcome, Rhonda and Gayla, it sure is good to see you here.

300cindydavid4
Mayo 30, 2018, 7:14pm

>296 karenwall: IIRC DG or Pat D found a copy of the discussion on the book from the Atlantic Table Talk, a century ago and yeah, lots of people hated that one. A pity because it really started with great promise - the end just really fell apart, oh, the ridiculled part was courtesy of DG - something about jeweled kangaroos. Much more will give it away

301lisapeet
Mayo 30, 2018, 8:00pm

>298 laurenbufferd: I don't remember the RV discussion... possibly before my time. I also didn't hate it as much as a lot of you all did, but I didn't love it either. I only read it a couple of years ago, so I actually have a review here (thank god, since I wouldn't remember my opinion otherwise). What I said was:
I appreciate the idea behind it—the first contact/theology mashup—but I found the ending both too brutal and too pat. I spent the whole last quarter or so wanting it to be over, and then the end was really kind of disappointingly wholesome. Still, the book was interesting. I'm just not sure I really enjoyed it.

Gave it three stars. I do remember DG's comment but won't reprint it here since it contains spoilers, as they say.

302DG_Strong
Editado: Mayo 30, 2018, 8:35pm

No, it was Michelle Furphy! I just remembered it every time it came up and yes, it is a terrible spoiler though it involves the possible movie adaptation that was being bandied about at the time and envisioning Antonio Banderas and a certain kangaroo in a bejeweled frockcoat. BUT I CAN SAY NO MORE!

And ohhhh, I hated the book. I mean hated hated. Like poke my eyes out, never read again hated.

303karenwall
Mayo 30, 2018, 9:44pm

So that was what I was talking about, Cindy.
Blast from the past.

304laurenbufferd
Mayo 31, 2018, 9:42am

Yup, that.

305LyddieO
Mayo 31, 2018, 6:35pm

That Sparrow conversation must have been memorable, but I don't recall a thing about it, except Michelle Furby's name.

Just finished Josephine Tey's Daughter of Time, and am moving on to a new to me, E.F. Benson. The Freaks of Mayfair. I know nothing about it, but with that author and that title, how can you resist?

306cindydavid4
Editado: Jun 1, 2018, 9:26am

Is Pat D around? This week's new yorker has an article about Helen DeWitt (author of The Last Samurai) she has a new book out. I remember Pat really loved this book.

307DG_Strong
Editado: Mayo 31, 2018, 8:12pm

The Freaks of Mayfair is one of the few non Mapp/Lucia Benson titles still in print; every few years, there's an attempt to re-ignite some of them. This one, Secret Lives, David Blaize, the Dodo books. Freaks isn't really a story, just a series of funny character sketches. He was kind of warming up for Mapp and Lucia, which began just a couple of years later.

308SP_Rankin
Jun 3, 2018, 8:19pm

I read Tangerine and The Female Persuasion this week. The former was quite a lot of fun—just a great big mishmash of duMaurier and Highsmith with the subtext de-subtextified—but the prologue completely spoiled the whole plot for me. Not that it was a huge deal because I think a lot of the book’s fun is how much it reminds you of other books, but still!

I’m still deciding about the Wolitzer. A lot of it seemed very on-the-nose, but then I burst into tears a couple of times mid-paragraph and I already feel myself thinking about it. The same thing happened with The Interestings.

However, speaking as one myself, I firmly believe middle-aged white ladies need to never invent rapper names and certainly not actual rap lyrics. Cringey!

309mkunruh
Editado: Jun 4, 2018, 8:54pm

I was in bed with a nasty cough (allergy related, I think) and so read all of Happiness by Aminatta Forna. I'm fascinated by the urbanization of foxes, coy wolves, coyotes and other animals -- so was pleased that one of the characters was studying foxes in London. The novel is quiet with no big or grand moments, despite a missing child (who is found), but I liked its pace. Attila, a psychiatrist from Accra (Ghana) who studies trauma, sits at the centre of the book, and the narrative reflects his pace -- thoughtful, loving, careful. He's in town for a keynote lecture, to locate his niece who isn't returning phone calls, and to visit an old friend and former lover who has early onset alzheimers. Jean, the alternate narrative, an American biologist, is studying urban foxes and making ends meet designing urban gardens. There's lots of bits that didn't need to be in the novel, and I don't think that the relationship that develops between Jean and Attila really resonated, but I liked spending time with both of them and enjoyed the small narrative asides. What I particularly liked were the conversations with men (and some women) whose jobs were outside (doormen, garbage men, street sweepers, street performers) and part of the African diaspora. I will happily read more by her.

Now I'm reading February by Lisa Moore for my RL bookclub. I really wanted to read the The Maze at Windermere next, so picked February up reluctantly, but so far so good. Moore has more edge than I expected, which is a good thing.

310lisapeet
Jun 4, 2018, 5:09pm

Oh I'm psyched you liked Happiness. I'm really interested in wildlife urbanization too--have we talked about this, Mir? I'm thinking no--and I was taken in by the fox story line too. I picked it up at Midwinter and haven't opened it yet, but that's encouraging me.

I also want to read The Maze at Windermere... NYPL has the ebook, good. I'm due for some novel binging after I finish up this big pile of nonfiction, although all of it has been really engaging.

311lisapeet
Editado: Jun 4, 2018, 9:26pm

I finished Susan Orlean's The Library Book, which was just lovely. The book is a history of the L.A. Public Library, particularly the 1986 fire that devastated it—and it makes you wish that every library system was fortunate enough to have a biographer, because Orlean pulls out the most marvelous, evocative details about it from its founding to the present day—but it's also a love letter to libraries in general, which is just a wonderful thing. Of course I love it, given how I feel about libraries. But it's also really accessible and warm, and I just want everyone to read it so they can feel that love too.

A real review for LJ is coming shortly, but that's my mushy version.

312laurenbufferd
Jun 4, 2018, 9:25pm

I am so glad you liked it Miriam - I reviewed it and it was so radically different from anything she'd written before, I didn't know what to make of it. It has such a quiet steady power, though.

My review here: https://bookpage.com/reviews/22330-aminatta-forna-happiness#.WxXmYEgvywU.

313Kat.Warren
Editado: Jun 4, 2018, 9:36pm

You had me at foxes.

314JulieCarter
Editado: Jun 5, 2018, 12:36pm

Hey, so my book club is this weekend. The Sparrow. Please spoil it, share whatever insights you had, why you HATED HATED HATED it so much, etc. I don't know if the discussion was on RV or TT, but I know I haven't saved that one, so I'd love to know what you guys said!

ETA: I looked at the Wayback Machine, but I don't see any of the book groups where we discussed a specific book.

315Kat.Warren
Editado: Jun 5, 2018, 1:04pm

I did not hate The Sparrow, far from it, flaws and all. But, then, I am partial to Jesuits and usually enjoy speculative fiction that mashes up space travel and religion.

316gayla.bassham
Jun 5, 2018, 6:17pm

I also didn't hate The Sparrow.

317Kat.Warren
Jun 5, 2018, 9:49pm

But hate does build on itself. So, yeah, maybe how much hate for this means something ... . I think the writer's effort to make big ideas bigger did the book in.

I confess I get a little icky in the tummy at the thought of a manicure.

318cindydavid4
Editado: Jun 6, 2018, 12:13am

Found a fun local book about a historic place I had no idea existed. Alligators in the Baby Pool is a memoir by Sally Cole about the Tempe Beach, a pool that opened in 1923 on the south east side of the valley and stayed open until 1963. We had just moved to Phoenix that year, so I have no memories of it, but still found it fascinating. The book is filled with the history of the time and place, when the area was much smaller, much more of a community. Well written, and yes, there really were baby alligators in the baby pool!

319cindydavid4
Jun 7, 2018, 10:21am

So now reading Agent of Destiny which is a dumb title but I can't put this book down! Wow, I cannot put this book down! For one thing I have been living in Hamilton's world for several months, literary wise. This book is basically a sequel - what happens after 1804, with many of the same characters, and with subject who is has a bit of Hamilton and Burr under all that swagger. But most importantly it is extremely well written. Im not big on reading about battles, I usually turn the pages to see what finally happens and read on. But his writing is so good I want to know, plus the author includes several very helpful maps that makes the events easy to follow. Recommend this to anyone interested in the history of the time period

320cindydavid4
Jun 8, 2018, 9:48pm

Had to share this! Reading and loving Ursula le Guin's No Time to Spare It goes without saying that she has a way with words. Loved this paragraph, at the end of one of the chapters:

"I know that to me, words are things, almost immaterial but actual objects, things and that I like them

I like their most material aspect - the sound of them, heard in the mind, or spoken by the voice.

And right along with that, I like the dances of meaning words do with one another, the endless changes and complexities of there interrelationships in sentence or in text, by which imaginary worlds are shaped and shared.Writing engages me in both of these aspects of words, in the inexhaustible playing which is my life work

Words are my matter, my stuff. they are my skein of yarn my lump of clay, my block of uncarved wood. words are my magic, my antiproverbial cake. I eat it and still have it!"

321laurenbufferd
Editado: Jun 9, 2018, 11:37pm

I finally finished Flights. Even though there were individual parts and stories I really liked, I found the whole novel to be kind of a chore to read. The story of Chopin''s heart being returned to Warsaw, the death of a 17th c. Flemish anatomist who identified the Achilles tendon, a woman returning to her hometown to help her terminally ill high school sweetheart with an assisted suicide. I won't say it's not worth reading but I did find the inbetween bits to be a slog.

I started Brother and its a bloody heartbreak. Shortlisted for the Giller and deservedly so.

322lisapeet
Jun 9, 2018, 9:36pm



I'm working my way through all the books from my panel that I didn't read in depth—I ran out of time toward the end and had to skim a bit, skip around, and read the end, which is something I never do. But all of them were good enough to warrant thorough reads. I just finished Bad Blood: Secrets and Lies in a Silicon Valley Startup, which I really enjoyed. This account of a Silicon Valley med tech startup that attracted high-profile investors, supporters, and press without ever coming close to delivering on its promise—largely due to the charismatic young woman at its helm—and its takedown by a Wall Street Journal reporter is riveting and fun. All the more so because it wasn't a book I'd have picked up ordinarily if I hadn't been asked to moderate the panel, but I'm greatly glad I did. This is great book-length investigative reporting, but never felt needlessly padded out. Rather, it had all the elements of a good thriller, including hubris, whistleblowers, big venture cap money, patients in potential peril, and a truly byzantine antiheroine.

Carreyrou is in the story, and he mentions some of the investigative work he does, but what he never touches on—probably wisely, given the book's tone and scope—is how incredibly exciting, and probably often terrifying, bringing this story to light must have been. I'm very glad he turned it into a book, though, and recommend it all around.

>321 laurenbufferd: Lauren, who wrote Brothers? The touchstone isn't going to the book.

323laurenbufferd
Jun 9, 2018, 11:39pm

Edited. DAvid Chariandy.

324lisapeet
Jun 10, 2018, 7:39am

>323 laurenbufferd: Cool, thanks. I've gotten oddly dependent on those touchstones and LT's recommendations to get a feel for a book I know nothing about. That looks like it's worth seeking out, because it's not on my radar at all.

Question for anyone who knows more about LibraryThing than I do—why isn't publication info on a book's main page? I would dearly like to see the publisher and publication date for a book I'm checking out, but I only see that info for books I've read. It's a strange glitch/feature, IMO.

I'm finishing up Rising Out of Hatred: The Awakening of a Former White Nationalist by Eli Saslow right now... this one's really timely on the subject of how to interact with people whose beliefs are abhorrent to you. As with Bad Blood, it looks like it's the young people and their ideals that will save the day. (Said like an old fart, huh?)

325SP_Rankin
Jun 10, 2018, 8:31am

The Theranos story is CRAZY.

326southernbooklady
Editado: Jun 10, 2018, 8:42am

>324 lisapeet: Question for anyone who knows more about LibraryThing than I do—why isn't publication info on a book's main page?

The book's "main page" is what LT calls the "work" page -- you can actually see the word "work" in the url:

http://www.librarything.com/work/21543865

"works" are the top-level listings in LT and contain information that is constant across any edition of the book. The way I originally heard it described was information that passed "the cocktail party test" -- meaning, if two people were talking about Pride and Prejudice at a cocktail party, they could have a real conversation about it even if one of them had read the Penguin Classics edition, and the other had read the Everyman Classics edition.

there is a listing for "work details" that has the kind of info I think generally of use for library cataloging purposes. But information about a specific edition is usually filed under the "book" level -- the level at which real physical books are entered into people's LT catalogs.

It's one of the reasons that you can just search for a book on LT and click "add" to add it to your own catalog. You're viewing top level work information, not edition-specific level "book" information.

ETA: and did you like Rising Out of Hatred? It's on my list for the summer, but I'm feeling a little bit of trepidation. I'm kind of allergic to angry-young-men-lashing-out-because-life-isn't-going-their-way stories, and people-doing-evil-crap-because-they're-hypocritical-sociopaths stories, and people-suffering-because-of-corporate-and-government-greed-and-hubris stories at the moment.

327JulieCarter
Jun 12, 2018, 9:43am

I started reading Mean by Myriam Gurba yesterday. Definitely not what I was expecting, based on the comments here, though I am enjoying it (for lack of a better word). It doesn't seem like it's really about rape, per se, but there are almost continuous references to varieties of molestation and sexual activity (voluntary and involuntary). She has a very distinctive and unique way of looking at and experiencing the world that is really interesting. And it's a super quick read. I'll have to finish it and think some more about it.

328mkunruh
Editado: Jun 12, 2018, 4:21pm

Her discussion of the rape comes later in the book -- it's only occasionally in the foreground; it flavours the book rather than provides the main course (I'm teaching bad analogies tonight -- can you tell?).

329lisapeet
Editado: Jun 12, 2018, 10:35pm



>326 southernbooklady: It isn't one of those books at all. The story takes place at a very human level, and what actually drives Black's transformation is the compassion, and persistence, of his peers. Which sounds almost too good to be true but a) Saslow is a good reporter who obviously had full cooperation from his sources, and I believe him and b) Black was such a star of the White Nationalist movement because of the family he was born into, but also because he was very smart, very inquisitive, something of a polymath. Whatever other enormous ideological flaws his parents had, they apparently raised him to seek out the answers to his own questions, and he did.

It's actually pretty encouraging for these dark times—that such great personal change can come out of simple actions: kindness, patience, the exchange of ideas. I can send you a galley, if you like.

For a total change of pace, now I'm reading Invitation to a Bonfire, on Lauren's recommendation, which is great fun so far. I do love some Russians in my fiction.

330lisapeet
Jun 13, 2018, 6:35am

Oh and thanks for the explanation of the metadata, Nicki. What annoys me is that I can't get Book Details, and therefore publisher info, unless I've added a book to my shelves or wish list. And sometimes I just want to know. It's easy enough to jump over to Amazon to look, I guess, but it would be nice to be able to stay on the site here.

331JulieCarter
Jun 13, 2018, 10:54am

That does seem weird. I've never noticed (I don't really care about publishers), but it does seem strange that you can't see it unless you add it to your books.

332southernbooklady
Editado: Jun 13, 2018, 11:05am

>330 lisapeet: I hear you. Can you get to book details via another member's listing? A book doesn't appear on the site until it is cataloged by somebody. If that person's library is viewable, then I think you can see the details of their specific copy?

oh, and you can also go through, but not complete the process of adding the book to your library. A search for an isbn under the add books heading will bring up listings from numerous library sources, and often includes publication data.

333laurenbufferd
Editado: Jun 13, 2018, 11:51am

Yay, let me know if you like Invitation to a Bonfire. It's just fun.

I'm reading Elmet . It's a bit heavy on the atmosphere, light on the action, eh?

334southernbooklady
Jun 13, 2018, 12:06pm

>331 JulieCarter: It's convoluted, but you can see that information by way of another member's library. So you can see who has copies of a work, click on one of the names, find the book in their catalog, and see the details of their specific book. I think, conceptually, a book does not exist in LibraryThing except as something that is in somebody's catalog. But a "work" -- the Platonic ideal of the book in question -- does.

335SPRankin
Jun 14, 2018, 1:40pm

Last night, I finished Who Is Vera Kelly? and while I mostly liked it, it wasn't quite what I thought it would be. Or rather, it felt like an undercooked version of what I thought it would be. The bones of a great story in all respects--character/setting/tone and some tight, tight prose--but just not enough meat on those bones. (How's that for a bad analogy?) I'm still in a bit of a funk after The Americans, so maybe that placed an unfair burden?

Circe is next, and oh boy, it's fun so far.

336southernbooklady
Jun 16, 2018, 5:42pm

>335 SPRankin: SPRankin, I'm about half way through Circe and my, my. It is pretty sharp. A girl could cut herself, reading.

337cindydavid4
Jun 16, 2018, 6:04pm

Oh goodie! Cant wait to dive in

Reading Here I Am Liking it but really find some of the sexual language unecessary - The story could have been written with much less (not talking about the sex scenes themselves, just the constant adding of language that doesn't add to my enjoyment of the story. I am likelyin the minority however which is fine

Also reading, (finally) a 2017 edition of Guns Germs and Steel. Read the preface and am interesting to see how things go - I know this book was very controversial when it came out, suspect it still does, still wanted to check it out

338gayla.bassham
Jun 17, 2018, 7:15am

Has anyone else read The Mars Room? I am only about halfway through but it is excellent so far.

339lisapeet
Jun 17, 2018, 8:04am

No, but it's near the theoretical top of my mist-shrouded TBR pile. I'll bump it up another couple of spots, though, after hearing you like it. The subject, and Kushner as an author, really hooked me.

340SP_Rankin
Jun 17, 2018, 11:39am

Oh, Circe was exactly what i wanted it to be. Hair-raisingly “other” and of-the-moment all at once. Just the way a myth should be.

Next was The Word Is Murder. Fun and meta—Horowitz acts as his own narrator and there’s a scene near the end that must have been a hoot to write—but ultimately not as clever as it thought it was and it made me kind of unnecessarily dislike the author.

341SPRankin
Jun 17, 2018, 12:23pm

I just realized I somehow created two accounts for myself (I think I signed in via Facebook or something on my iPad) and I can't get rid of the extra one. This one (no underscore) is the right one and I think I'm all squared away. Also, I agree with everything the underscored me said.

342southernbooklady
Jun 17, 2018, 1:39pm

>340 SP_Rankin: I think Circe wins for number of self-performed caesarian deliveries.

343cindydavid4
Jun 17, 2018, 4:33pm

>340 SP_Rankin: darn, I thought that Tony Horwitz had written a new book. Different author.....ah well

344lisapeet
Jun 17, 2018, 6:19pm

I am so stoked for Circe.



Invitation to a Bonfire was total fun—thanks so much for the rec, Lauren! 1930s, boarding school, Russian émigrés including Vladimir and Vera Nabokov stand-ins, literature (including a mysterious missing manuscript), the politics of entitlement vs. deprivation, murder plots, and some really enjoyable writing... as Lauren said elsewhere, a very Readerville book.

And just for the hell of it, I pulled Nabokov's Invitation to a Beheading off my shelf, because a home library is the best thing ever when it actually replicates the kind of free association you'd use a real library for. I may give it a try as my bedside book, because I'm also back to Old in Art School: A Memoir of Starting Over, which I began before my big nonfiction read in May.

And I just may have pulled There There up on my iPad, but I think I'll hold off until I've finished one of the above. I'm not enough of a multitasker to read three books at a time (plus the ever-present New Yorker).

345laurenbufferd
Editado: Jun 21, 2018, 4:46pm

I am about halfway through There, There and I love it. If you read Love Medicine back in the day and were kind of blown away by it, you might have a similar feeling here - interlocking stories that take some time to wrap your brain around. You may have to draw a little chart about who is related to who.

Orange is a great writer and the novel is a gorgeous mix of poetry, total justified rage and badassery. I could not be happier.

On the other hand, I hated Elmet. Talk about misery porn. BOOOOO. A novel about child abuse wrapped up in something to make it seem soulful and sound pretty.

I was waiting around for planes this weekend and so I also read A Play of Isaac.

Lisa, P, I knew that Celt book was for you.

346mkunruh
Editado: Jun 22, 2018, 11:38am

I can't wait to read There, There. I just realized today, much to my disappointment, that Tommy Orange was in town last week for the Writers' Festival and I missed him.

Everyone here should read The Maze at Windermere -- it's so much fun with lots of bits that need to be puzzled out. I even got a piece of paper out so that I could map the crossover points. Lots of Henry James and 5 interweaving narratives that are linked through Newport landmarks and James' novels (although the only one I know, because it's referenced specifically, is What Maisie Knew). James himself, is one of the characters.

347laurenbufferd
Jun 22, 2018, 10:20am

SOLD!!!! I will do anything for Henry James.

348mkunruh
Jun 22, 2018, 11:44am

That's what I thought! I think of you and deeg a lot while reading it. I realized I'm dawdling a bit with it, because I don't want it to be over (plus, I'm worried, a little bit, about where it is going).

349JulieCarter
Jun 25, 2018, 11:35am

My friend picked Lost Boy: The True Story of Captain Hook by Christina Henry for our book club. I honestly thought about just skipping this meeting, because I had basically no interest when I saw that it was a reimagining of parts of Peter Pan. But I went ahead and got it, and I'm loving it! It's pretty dark, and boy, is Peter Pan a dick! But if this keeps up (I'm about halfway in), I may go ahead and try the author's Alice in Wonderland books too.

Then I really am going to try to read Less by Andrew Sean Greer. I've started it twice, but keep getting pulled away from it. I want it to just click, so I can read it in a day or two. But my mood hasn't been quite right, I guess.

350lisapeet
Editado: Jun 25, 2018, 2:58pm

>346 mkunruh: Also sold, even though I'm not as big a Henry James fan as sommme people. It sounds neat, though.

>349 JulieCarter: I don't think I've ever read a book in a day or two in my life, other than super short things (under 100 pages)—I'm just a slow reader and I'm OK with that, I guess. Although given the ridiculous number of books I just picked up at ALA in New Orleans (hey, packing for hot climates means more room in the suitcase) I really wish I could get to more of them sooner.

A case in point being Old in Art School, which I'm enjoying but she's really nonlinear—and it's interesting stuff she has to say about art world and art school politics as well as the nature of art, of being an outsider in several ways (chiefly being black, female, older than her fellow students, and a professional in another field), and some cool stuff about art itself, but it's not propulsive. She also has an oddball voice that's refreshing, but again pushes back as much as it pulls you in. So I find myself reading a bit, drifting away, reading a bit more, etc. Maybe that's just the way it needs to be consumed, which is cool. There's still something very intrinsically likeable about it.

>345 laurenbufferd: I liked Elmet more than you did, Lauren... I think it was my mood, kind of dark and dank to begin with.

351mkunruh
Jun 26, 2018, 12:44pm

> 350 I've never read James (although I will soon, now) so James wasn't the selling point for me.

I'm reading There, There now, and liking it a lot -- loved that he references A Tribe Called Quest (a band I encourage everyone check out). Very similar in tone to Eden Robinson's Son of a Trickster.

I'm on a bit of an Indigenous fiction tear. Canadian Settlers and the Canadian Government treat Indigenous Canadians like shit, and our Truth and Reconciliation Commission has an up-hill battle, particularly since so many Indigenous people are living in third world situations with limited access to health care and education, BUT I am so delighted that there are an increasing number Indigenous voices/writers that are now more prominent and available. Recent excellent reads are the already mentioned Trickster, The Break by Katherena Vermette, and the deeply nerdy part of me loved the non-fiction book by Gregory Younging, Elements of Indigenous Style.

352cindydavid4
Jun 26, 2018, 2:29pm

For our beach vacation, I brought with me several books on my shelves that I loved dearly, early in my rville days, and thought to read again: The Semi Detached House Elizabeth and her German Garden (along with several others by her), Foreign Affairs and Lousiana Power and Light . Finished the first , now reading the second. Just perfect for my mood right now - which is not thinking much and wanting to stay away from the present current events... Lovely!

353laurenbufferd
Jun 27, 2018, 10:53am

Miriam, years ago you gave me a really fantabulous book by Eden Robinson Monkey Beach. Man, I loved that.

I thought There There was really good. I have a few quibbles - maybe one or two too many characters and with any novel like that where there a lot of story lines, I'm not sure he totally pulls it together. It lurches forward, rather than flows and I found the ending slight underwhelming. One chapter really works better as a stand alone (in fact, it was published as a short story in the NYer). But Orange is really blazing a new path and the ambition, the language, the creativity - all worth reading. His is truly a new voice.

I am still reading the stories Man V. Nature which are weird and kind of John Cheever in the post-apocalypse. Lisa, P, I'm sending this one to you.

Man, I miss Sue Russell.

I also started Dear Friend from My Life I write to You in Your life. It's beautiful but it would be less painful to have gall bladder surgery without anesthesia.

354JulieCarter
Jun 28, 2018, 12:09pm

Ooh, I have Monkey Beach too! I'm almost positive Kat recommended it to me, and I bought it for the title alone! (I love monkeys and apes.) Still haven't read it, of course, but it's there when I'm ready! If it's not really about monkeys, don't tell me. I'll figure it out. ;)

355cindydavid4
Jun 28, 2018, 8:57pm

Now reading Man in a Wooden Hat, the prequel sorta sequel to Old FILTH. Loving it all over again; actually rather interesting reading this series in chronological order rather than published order.

356lisapeet
Editado: Jun 28, 2018, 9:41pm



Finished Old in Art School, which I ended up liking very much. Painter’s voice is a surprise at first, but it’s as unique as her art, and communicates her heart and mind as effectively. I enjoyed being along on that journey with her, from eager artist to disillusioned graduate student dealing with a multitude of outsider statuses—female, black, over 60, out of sync with art world hip (marked, among other things, by a love of incorporating history and text into her work), with a firmly established non-art career already under her belt (Painter was a tenured, well-published professor of history at Princeton), and the caretaker of elderly parents—to a truly adventurous artist who believes in her own voice, her own hand, and her own old self. If my description of it sounds sunshiney, the book is decidedly not. But it’s affirming, maybe especially for those of us who aspire to make art in the face of the rest of life, or just to give fewer fucks. There’s a lot of incidentally good art history slipped in, and some good description of techniques, as well. This is a genuinely outside-the-lines memoir, and I’m so pleased it is.

Now on to the book of the moment among my people, Tommy Orange's There There.

>353 laurenbufferd: kind of John Cheever in the post-apocalypse Far out! Looking forward.

And I miss Sue too. Like every time I read something.

357laurenbufferd
Jun 29, 2018, 9:21am

I miss Sue especially when I read a short story I know she'd love. Like right in my gut.

I can't wait to hear your thoughts on There There. And sheesh, that Bell Painter book is high on my list.

Because the Yiyun Lin references John McGahern, I started reading The Barracks. I loved Amongst Women. It's like a palette cleanser for me - I read it when I've read too much muck and my mind feels plaque-y and cobweb-y. It's so cleansing and bracing and perfect.

So I'm quite happy.

358Kat.Warren
Jun 30, 2018, 11:35am

Ay de mi, this is exceptionally fine reading.

Theory of Bastards
by Audrey Schulman
Link: http://a.co/cMoPH40

359DG_Strong
Jun 30, 2018, 7:16pm

I ended up absolutely loving My Ex-Life, even though there was a plot turn that filled me with dread for a brief moment. McCauley really has a master's touch with an epigram, though. At one point, I was writing them down but by the time I got to the fourth page of writing-downs, it felt pointless. THE WHOLE BOOK IS AN EPIGRAM! So that's a recommendation.

Now on to The Great Believers. About sixty pages in and it feels like the real deal. I think 80s books are tough, especially when they're written by people who were only 12 at the end of them. But she gets it right, I think.

360laurenbufferd
Jul 1, 2018, 1:06pm

I agree up to a point. I have a lot of criticisms about that novel, DG, although I think it's just right in many ways as well. And it really was my life in Chicago in the 1980s - Illinois Masonic, Windy City Times, AIDS hospices, shopping at the Brown Elephant, ACT UP and rallies which made it hard to be nit picky

But when we have lunch, I'll tell you all my quibbles.

361southernbooklady
Jul 1, 2018, 3:29pm

I've been reading Under the Udala Trees with mixed feelings. If ever there was a story that should appeal to me, then this is it -- a young Ibo woman's account of coming of age and into her sexual identity in a Nigeria still shredded by Civil War, tribal and religious conflict. So it is disconcerting to find myself struggling to engage with the main character. I think the book is top-heavy with "theme," at the cost of allowing the reader to really connect with the story.

That said, there is a story in there. It comes through the cracks between other, larger concerns: For example, in Ijeoma's (she is the main voice) complicated relationship with her mother, and in the blooming of her first girlhood love affair -- which is just beautifully done. So I know Okparanta can write. This is her first novel (she also has a collection of short stories) and I find myself interested in reading other things she has written.

Ultimately it feels to me like the novel was written in response to -- or at least, owes its final form to -- the anti-gay legislation Nigeria enacted in 2014. It is a defiant voice against the much-touted polls that 98% of Nigerians think homosexuality should not be accepted by society. And I find I can't fault the author for that. But weirdly enough I think the book would be stronger and serve her purpose better if it had a more narrow focus instead of its overly-ambitious attempt to get it all -- religion, war, sex, love, ethnicities, class, education -- jammed into the life of a girl who is becoming a woman with all of existence arrayed against her.

362karenwall
Editado: Jul 1, 2018, 4:28pm

I’m reading The Maze at Windermere on a couple of recommendations, surprisingly not Lauren’s since Henry James is a character. Also reading the first volume of David Niven’s autobiography, The Moon’s a Balloon.

363laurenbufferd
Jul 1, 2018, 4:32pm

Karen, I just haven't gotten to it yet.

SBL, I felt exactly the same way about Under the Udala Tree. Very well intentioned, very passionate and assertive. But somehow, the most interesting piece of the story - which to me would have been the reconciliation of mother and daughter, was missing. I also found th book to be bogged down with myth and fable - I'd have preferred a more streamlined story.

Still, a worthy novel.

364cindydavid4
Jul 1, 2018, 6:16pm

>361 southernbooklady: That said, there is a story in there. It comes through the cracks between other, larger concerns: Reading this made me laugh and smile thinking about all the books Ive read where this would have been perfect as a review :)

home now, already missing the beach. Finished The Man in the Wooden Hat and now in the middle of Old Filth and oh its amazing how well Gardam holds you in her writing and makes even the sea disappear. Seeing so much now that I missed the first time.

Reread a couple of other books but they just didn't take for some reason. Was surprised to find no bookstores in the area (I was in whats known as The Beach Cities) so glad that I had these three handy.

365Nancy_Sirvent
Jul 2, 2018, 1:00am

Such a wonderful bunch of posts I've just read. You all rock. I'm so happy for the Sue Russell remembrances. I knew who she was before I read her posts on Rville. She was a regular poetry reviewer in all the gay literary mags in the 80s. It was an incredible time for gay lit, and I wish I'd known then that it was a time that would end--I thought then it would be eternal. I have so much to say about her but I fear I can't do her justice. I guess I thought she would be eternal too. I miss her so much.

366LuRits
Jul 2, 2018, 10:22am

I read that Niven about 100 years ago. I wonder if I would still find it as charming as I did back then.

Karen, have you read Alec Guinness’ memoirs (I think there are two — or I read one twice). I think you would really like those.

367JulieCarter
Jul 2, 2018, 10:33am

Finished Lost Boy: The True Story of Captain Hook by Christina Henry. As I said before, I don't care about Peter Pan, but this story was pretty well done. Very dark, and not childish at all. It really does make me want to check out her Alice (in Wonderland) books (if not go back and actually read Peter Pan, which I never have), but I'm also trying not to buy any books right now (and I doubt they're at the library, but I'll be checking for several things today). I keep looking around at all the books I've received as part of the holiday swap here, and how few of them I have actually read. But they all look really good, and I want to read them, and somehow I just haven't gotten to them yet! I seem to rarely read during the week (I'll fall asleep, or I'm angry and only TV will distract me from thinking), and most of my reading is done on Saturday and Sunday morning while I drink coffee. Trying to ramp it up a bit, even if I only read for 15 minutes at other times.

368southernbooklady
Jul 2, 2018, 4:36pm

Has anyone here read Russo's The Destiny Thief? I'm about a third of the way through and it seems really self-absorbed, even for the writer-memoir genre, which is saying something.

369SPRankin
Editado: Jul 2, 2018, 5:17pm

I also read the Niven. I think I was in high school. I suspect about half of it is made up. It's like if a gin-and-tonic (why can one never find enough ice in Italy, but one did need to clear out of California for just a bit--it's quite an amusing story, really) drunk under an umbrella on a terrace of a palazzo owned by a slightly gone-to-seed contessa in the 1950s were turned into a book.

FYI: I think it's time to continue this discussion in a new thread.

370karenwall
Editado: Jul 3, 2018, 1:47pm

I have the Guinness, LuAnn, but haven't read it. I want to go to that place, SP.
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