Classics you know you should have read but probably haven't
- Descripción
- I know I feel guilt at the number of works I feel I ought to have read, but haven't quite managed to get round to yet... Well, let's try to prioritise!
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por Virginia Woolf
17,575 miembros
270 reseñas
3.9
Ranking Global 14
Puntuacion 185.15
Añadido 2012-01-09, 10:18 AM
- 74 Members
- timspalding, Only2rs, gennyt, hipdeep, wordswordswords, tiddleyboom, eromsted, pamelad, Ragnell, jamesabg, lahochstetler, SilentInAWay, fbroussard, smcwl, almigwin, lwbooklover, antqueen, EmScape, bell7, Cecrow, otterlake, stellarexplorer, andejons, sundancer, peterdj, cathyta, japaul22, brenzi, auntSteelbreaker, perennialreader, bacbaby, citybird, nik61, Cindy1954, CVido, Bici47, HMHbooks, Dunord, nlgeorge, BlueSkies305, bwtsang, IslesOfMine, jaysbooks, wrysosrs, pewterbreath, EElsen, linlef, james.proffitt, FlorianKarpfinger, mspixieears, Arrashid7, Laura1124, SamTaylor, ramsesiii, linnzsue, TheUndergroundMan000, nedhyu, MadaraR, joannawolotira, blancosa, lsah, Zaeynab, RodgerA, linfootr, spiderlily, RachelKirk, Sisif, steller0707, CharlesTheB, dkarenart, Lazlo_Kovaks, TaraJohnson, gerggerggerg, MyFathersDragon, ,cpg ,prosfilaes ,aulsmith ,karamazow ,Tess_W ,Chirules ,ManWithAnAgenda
- Explicaciones
- aulsmith : Just can't read Woolf.Arrashid7: She's an awesome writer. I'm reading her this summer.ManWithAnAgenda : Read, enjoyed.MyFathersDragon: When I was an adult, I read part of it. Then we packed and moved books. I didn’t continue reading it later, because I had fantasy books in series I was reading become available that I started reading instead.
2
por E. M. Forster
11,164 miembros
223 reseñas
3.9
Ranking Global 21
Puntuacion 155.05
Añadido 2012-01-09, 10:02 AM
- 70 Members
- wordswordswords, conceptDawg, staffordcastle, tiddleyboom, eromsted, cpg, jain, mybookshelf, foggidawn, pamelad, lahochstetler, SilentInAWay, almigwin, lwbooklover, .Monkey., europhile, EmScape, jefbra, Smiler69, Cecrow, otterlake, stellarexplorer, amanda4242, sturlington, cathyta, japaul22, BekkaJo, susiesharp, perennialreader, citybird, nik61, Cindy1954, CVido, Bici47, Dunord, nlgeorge, BlueSkies305, electrice, gypsysmom, al.vick, bibliobuzz, ahef1963, Marleen_Cloutier, linlef, james.proffitt, FlorianKarpfinger, mspixieears, metamedusa, banana4thelord, Chirules, christianromney, hudzilla55, linnzsue, TheUndergroundMan000, MadaraR, mmseiple, lsah, Zaeynab, Rusty37, TwinDaddy, RachelKirk, thamara.abrao, mcountr, ManWithAnAgenda, CharlesTheB, GrimFiend1977, Lazlo_Kovaks, Musicaldreamer, TaraJohnson, MaureenONeill,prosfilaes ,karamazow
- Explicaciones
- jain: Read it in high school but need to reread as an adult.amanda4242: Loved it.
3
por Émile Zola
5,362 miembros
79 reseñas
4.1
Ranking Global 82
Puntuacion 61.56
Añadido 2012-01-09, 07:03 AM
- 33 Members
- Edward, gennyt, henkl, kerry1897, jamesabg, lahochstetler, SilentInAWay, almigwin, .Monkey., Smiler69, olgakm, stellarexplorer, karamazow, peterdj, geitebukkeskjegg, cathyta, japaul22, souloftherose, bw94612, Kristelh, Dunord, nlgeorge, Himalmitra, elia1168, linlef, james.proffitt, FlorianKarpfinger, ryaSilvia, linnzsue, nedhyu, joannawolotira, mmseiple, fredasteele, ,eromsted ,prosfilaes ,CVido ,Bici47
4
por Charles Dickens
24,222 miembros
241 reseñas
3.8
Ranking Global 4
Puntuacion 268.93
Añadido 2012-02-08, 06:50 PM
- 94 Members
- Aquila, wordswordswords, tiddleyboom, eromsted, kageeh, mybookshelf, longway, pamelad, ghilbrae, SimoneA, smcwl, almigwin, lwbooklover, varielle, .Monkey., antqueen, rosiezbanks, AnnaClaire, pmdean, Aninja, EmScape, Zylphan, jefbra, chgstrom, olgakm, karamazow, deldevries, cathyta, japaul22, fundevogel, susiesharp, ridgididge, cc9, Cindy1954, CVido, Beorn_se_Bacaire, Bici47, Kristelh, Dehinde, eclecticdodo, rretzler, BlueSkies305, JqnOC, John_Vaughan, TrulyAragorn, JalenV, gypsysmom, jaysbooks, ahef1963, raperper, Carmen_13, NinieB, linlef, LesleyAshton, james.proffitt, Jacqklueh, FlorianKarpfinger, dwightie, mspixieears, ryaSilvia, jnmlkr901, Arrashid7, Laura1124, banana4thelord, mattmcmahon, ramsesiii, linnzsue, December7, nedhyu, dljones442, JohnMB, courtneyp93, mmseiple, Zaeynab, aquariumministry, RodgerA, pkloza, kierstens, spiderlily, HollieKirt, Rusty37, TwinDaddy, RachelKirk, CharlesTheB, dkarenart, CyndiCiavarella, Stephan_Rogers, TaraJohnson, ChrissyQuise, gerggerggerg, gunarss, MyFathersDragon, MaureenONeill, DianaInSydney,cpg ,SilentInAWay ,aulsmith ,lsah
- Explicaciones
- JalenV: I listened to an audio copy from my local library. I was amazed by how much punishment poor Oliver's body takes near the end and he managed to survive. Nice kid -- interesting, considering his upbringing.ahef1963: Too depressing for my liking.Arrashid7: I read in high school. A great book! A tip ~ don't ever watch movies first!MyFathersDragon: I was bored in 6th grade and read anything I could get my hands on. I liked Dickens, so I read a lot of his stories.
5
por Mark Twain
42,935 miembros
518 reseñas
3.9
Ranking Global 9
Puntuacion 225.55
Añadido 2012-01-26, 05:41 PM
- 99 Members
- Aquila, waitingtoderail, gennyt, benfulton, wordswordswords, anglemark, evilmoose, Rtrace, foggidawn, pamelad, booksinbed, SimoneA, BookWallah, almigwin, varielle, antqueen, europhile, pmdean, Zylphan, jefbra, m_island, karamazow, sjmccreary, amanda4242, redsox0407, deldevries, artturnerjr, SylviaC, sturlington, cathyta, japaul22, ncgraham, BekkaJo, jyssco, perennialreader, ridgididge, briarhills, CVido, bw94612, Bici47, Dunord, eclecticdodo, BlueSkies305, JqnOC, electrice, JalenV, gypsysmom, Shutzie27, jaysbooks, ahef1963, raperper, pincus2, bcrowl399, NinieB, LesleyAshton, james.proffitt, FlorianKarpfinger, jnmlkr901, IsabelJacobson, Arrashid7, Laura1124, christianromney, hudzilla55, mattmcmahon, ramsesiii, linnzsue, December7, dljones442, JohnMB, courtneyp93, Saxon451, Zaeynab, IllsleyFamilyLibrary, spiderlily, HollieKirt, JMK2020, Rusty37, MargaretD1, JessGalchutt, TwinDaddy, RachelKirk, Sisif, mcountr, readerdad, TeriAndersonNeedham, steller0707, dkarenart, Stephan_Rogers, TaraJohnson, ChrissyQuise, FireflyLover, KrystalSheppard, MMC22378, gunarss, MyFathersDragon, MaureenONeill, valeriepatton, bookthief07, DianaInSydney,lorax ,gilroy , ,eromsted ,SilentInAWay ,aulsmith ,auntSteelbreaker ,mattries37315 ,lsah ,ManWithAnAgenda
- Explicaciones
- gilroy : Read itamanda4242: Loved it.auntSteelbreaker : Read it, did not enjoy it.JalenV: I think I read my parents' copy. I'd read all my books and usually had the library ones finished before our next visit.ManWithAnAgenda : Read, eh.MyFathersDragon: I read some Twain in 5th grade and ended up reading most of his books.
6
por Mikhail Bulgakov
20,438 miembros
465 reseñas
4.2
Ranking Global 60
Puntuacion 81.72
Añadido 2012-01-09, 10:18 AM
- 47 Members
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- Explicaciones
- aulsmith : See no reason to read.ManWithAnAgenda : Read. Loved.
7
por Willa Cather
5,935 miembros
147 reseñas
4
Ranking Global 84
Puntuacion 59.79
Añadido 2012-01-09, 10:09 AM
- 41 Members
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- Explicaciones
8
por E. M. Forster
8,772 miembros
131 reseñas
4
Ranking Global 62
Puntuacion 79.18
Añadido 2012-02-14, 07:49 AM
- 47 Members
- wordswordswords, tiddleyboom, evilmoose, eromsted, jain, mybookshelf, jamesabg, SilentInAWay, booksinbed, almigwin, lwbooklover, europhile, jefbra, Smiler69, otterlake, stellarexplorer, amanda4242, BALE, redsox0407, martina_hrubes, sturlington, cathyta, japaul22, brenzi, ncgraham, BekkaJo, Cindy1954, Bici47, Kristelh, nlgeorge, BlueSkies305, gypsysmom, FancyHorse, linlef, james.proffitt, FlorianKarpfinger, Laura1124, ramsesiii, linnzsue, joannawolotira, mmseiple, lsah, TwinDaddy, CharlesTheB, Musicaldreamer, TaraJohnson, MaureenONeill,Simone2 ,CVido ,ahef1963 ,ManWithAnAgenda
- Explicaciones
- jain: Read it in high school but need to reread as an adult.ahef1963 : Have tried to read it several times but was too bored.ManWithAnAgenda : Read.
9
por Charles Dickens
13,690 miembros
248 reseñas
4.2
Ranking Global 34
Puntuacion 120.26
Añadido 2012-02-10, 10:27 AM
- 61 Members
- wordswordswords, tiddleyboom, kerry1897, evilmoose, eromsted, jain, foggidawn, jamesabg, SilentInAWay, booksinbed, SimoneA, almigwin, AnnaClaire, europhile, pmdean, Smiler69, m_island, stellarexplorer, peterdj, martina_hrubes, cathyta, japaul22, brenzi, ncgraham, BekkaJo, susiesharp, bacbaby, briarhills, Cindy1954, Simone2, CVido, bw94612, Bici47, nlgeorge, BlueSkies305, TrulyAragorn, Himalmitra, JalenV, gypsysmom, ahef1963, raperper, Marleen_Cloutier, NinieB, linlef, Peace2, FlorianKarpfinger, Laura1124, linnzsue, dljones442, joannawolotira, mmseiple, lsah, TwinDaddy, RachelKirk, mcountr, CharlesTheB, pozzoandlucky, TaraJohnson, MyFathersDragon, CarolynBurke7, MaureenONeill, ,cpg ,ManWithAnAgenda
- Explicaciones
- JalenV: Can't recall if I listened to a library copy or read my sister's copy. It was certainly bleak. Avoid lawsuits!ManWithAnAgenda : Read.MyFathersDragon: I was reading lots of Dickens back then.
10
9,992 miembros
120 reseñas
4
Ranking Global 45
Puntuacion 105.23
Añadido 2012-01-12, 11:21 AM
- 52 Members
- hailelib, Only2rs, gennyt, kerry1897, eromsted, mlfhlibrarian, longway, jamesabg, smcwl, almigwin, .Monkey., europhile, Smiler69, amanda4242, peterdj, cathyta, japaul22, clamacchia, ncgraham, TBergen, briarhills, mousse, cc9, Cindy1954, Beorn_se_Bacaire, Dilara86, bw94612, Kristelh, Dunord, rretzler, BlueSkies305, JqnOC, TrulyAragorn, Himalmitra, mattries37315, elia1168, luvpumpkns, LesleyAshton, FlorianKarpfinger, Arrashid7, linnzsue, nedhyu, joannawolotira, mmseiple, lsah, aquariumministry, fredasteele, Sisif, ManWithAnAgenda, TaraJohnson, gerggerggerg, MyFathersDragon,Edward ,SilentInAWay ,sjmccreary ,CVido ,Bici47
- Explicaciones
- amanda4242: A slow starter and can drag a bit in places, but a great read.MyFathersDragon: I read this as an adult because it was a classic. I read some excerpts in high school.
11
por Thomas Mann
5,675 miembros
109 reseñas
4.2
Ranking Global 73
Puntuacion 67.18
Añadido 2012-01-09, 10:10 AM
- 38 Members
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12
por Edmund Spenser
2,550 miembros
24 reseñas
3.8
Ranking Global 78
Puntuacion 63.82
Añadido 2012-01-12, 11:09 AM
- 42 Members
- gennyt, wordswordswords, tiddleyboom, kerry1897, eromsted, cpg, paradoxosalpha, jamesabg, smcwl, .Monkey., europhile, stellarexplorer, peterdj, Myrrha, cathyta, japaul22, susiesharp, souloftherose, nik61, cc9, Cindy1954, Bici47, Kristelh, rretzler, BlueSkies305, TrulyAragorn, Himalmitra, elia1168, FancyHorse, EElsen, linlef, james.proffitt, ryaSilvia, Arrashid7, SamTaylor, JohnMB, courtneyp93, joannawolotira, mmseiple, fredasteele, MargaretD1, TwinDaddy,SilentInAWay ,antqueen ,aulsmith ,sturlington ,CVido , ,aekd ,ManWithAnAgenda ,CharlesTheB
- Explicaciones
13
2,553 miembros
43 reseñas
2.9
Ranking Global 171
Puntuacion 22.83
Añadido 2012-01-26, 03:46 AM
- 19 Members
- kerry1897, eromsted, SilentInAWay, smcwl, almigwin, thorold, europhile, SylviaC, cathyta, japaul22, Cindy1954, CVido, Kristelh, Himalmitra, NinieB, linlef, james.proffitt, ryaSilvia, lsah,gennyt ,jain ,aulsmith ,ManWithAnAgenda
- Explicaciones
- jain : Read ~1/4 of it, and that was annoying and repetitious enough. Can't imagine slogging through the whole thing.aulsmith : Life's too short to waste it reading Pamela.ManWithAnAgenda : Read.
14
por Stendhal
9,495 miembros
136 reseñas
3.8
Ranking Global 121
Puntuacion 35.76
Añadido 2012-01-09, 10:03 AM
- 29 Members
- wordswordswords, kerry1897, smcwl, almigwin, sarahemmm, .Monkey., europhile, Smiler69, Cecrow, otterlake, karamazow, WSB7, cathyta, japaul22, BekkaJo, cc9, Cindy1954, Kristelh, Dunord, FancyHorse, NinieB, pewterbreath, james.proffitt, ryaSilvia, Arrashid7, linnzsue, nedhyu, lsah, Sisif, ,eromsted ,SilentInAWay ,peterdj ,Simone2 ,CVido ,Bici47 ,electrice
- Explicaciones
- electrice : read in junior high school
15
por John Bunyan
17,479 miembros
171 reseñas
½ 3.7
Ranking Global 92
Puntuacion 56.41
Añadido 2012-01-26, 09:49 AM
- 42 Members
- hailelib, wordswordswords, kerry1897, cpg, mybookshelf, BookWallah, otterlake, stellarexplorer, sjmccreary, deldevries, PatsyMurray, cathyta, japaul22, susiesharp, souloftherose, 2wonderY, cc9, Dehinde, eclecticdodo, rretzler, BlueSkies305, fuzzi, JalenV, gypsysmom, ahef1963, raperper, EElsen, linlef, james.proffitt, ryaSilvia, Arrashid7, daisy_jane, December7, mmseiple, aquariumministry, IllsleyFamilyLibrary, mcountr, steller0707, Musicaldreamer, TaraJohnson, MyFathersDragon, valeriepatton,Edward ,eromsted ,SilentInAWay ,aulsmith ,karamazow ,sturlington ,CVido ,nlgeorge ,lsah ,ManWithAnAgenda ,CharlesTheB
- Explicaciones
- aulsmith : Started several times but never found it worth pursuing.sturlington : Ugh.nlgeorge : too biblicalJalenV: I was interested because the sisters in Little Women played it. I found a beautifully ilustrated old copy and bought it. I didn't like it much, but I didn't hate it.ahef1963: Read in university. Can't say I liked it much.ManWithAnAgenda : Read. eh.CharlesTheB : I agree, too biblical
16
4,483 miembros
69 reseñas
4.1
Ranking Global 79
Puntuacion 62.25
Añadido 2012-01-09, 10:11 AM
- 37 Members
- gennyt, wordswordswords, kerry1897, eromsted, jamesabg, SilentInAWay, smcwl, almigwin, .Monkey., antqueen, icre8dstny, peterdj, cathyta, japaul22, souloftherose, Cindy1954, Dilara86, bw94612, Kristelh, Dunord, raperper, elia1168, NinieB, linlef, james.proffitt, FlorianKarpfinger, ryaSilvia, Arrashid7, mattmcmahon, dianeham, joannawolotira, mmseiple, fredasteele, Sisif, readerdad, Apstahl, gunarss, ,CVido ,Bici47 ,lsah
17
por Thomas Mann
9,598 miembros
175 reseñas
4.2
Ranking Global 83
Puntuacion 60.03
Añadido 2012-02-18, 09:14 PM
- 38 Members
- gennyt, wordswordswords, tiddleyboom, kerry1897, jain, jamesabg, SilentInAWay, smcwl, almigwin, .Monkey., Zylphan, Cecrow, otterlake, stellarexplorer, karamazow, cathyta, japaul22, bw94612, Kristelh, nlgeorge, electrice, elia1168, linlef, james.proffitt, FlorianKarpfinger, mspixieears, rplinke, ramsesiii, linnzsue, nedhyu, dljones442, MadaraR, mmseiple, TwinDaddy, Sisif, ManWithAnAgenda, CharlesTheB, MyFathersDragon,eromsted ,peterdj ,Simone2 ,CVido
- Explicaciones
- MyFathersDragon: It was recommended as a classic, so I read it.
18
por Mark Twain
32,869 miembros
324 reseñas
3.9
Ranking Global 23
Puntuacion 151.76
Añadido 2012-02-12, 09:58 PM
- 78 Members
- Aquila, benfulton, wordswordswords, tiddleyboom, evilmoose, kageeh, dara85, pamelad, jamesabg, booksinbed, SimoneA, almigwin, varielle, s2nowy, pmdean, Zylphan, jefbra, m_island, sjmccreary, amanda4242, deldevries, cathyta, japaul22, ncgraham, BekkaJo, jyssco, perennialreader, ridgididge, Beorn_se_Bacaire, bw94612, Dunord, Dehinde, BlueSkies305, electrice, JalenV, gypsysmom, Shutzie27, jaysbooks, ahef1963, raperper, bcrowl399, NinieB, LesleyAshton, james.proffitt, FlorianKarpfinger, Liivin, jnmlkr901, Arrashid7, Laura1124, Sarahlinbook, hudzilla55, mattmcmahon, linnzsue, December7, dljones442, JohnMB, seanogui, courtneyp93, joannawolotira, Saxon451, Zaeynab, IllsleyFamilyLibrary, JMK2020, Rusty37, TwinDaddy, Sisif, TeriAndersonNeedham, CharlesTheB, Musicaldreamer, TaraJohnson, KrystalSheppard, MMC22378, gunarss, MyFathersDragon, MaureenONeill, ArayaK, valeriepatton, cackleconure, ,eromsted ,SilentInAWay ,aulsmith ,sturlington ,CVido ,mattries37315 ,ManWithAnAgenda
- Explicaciones
- sturlington : Read in grade schoolJalenV: I believe this is another one of the classics my parents had that I read.ManWithAnAgenda : Read.MyFathersDragon: I started reading Twain in 5th grade and kept on, reading several of his.
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por Shirley Jackson
8,138 miembros
423 reseñas
4.1
Ranking Global 77
Puntuacion 65.07
Añadido 2012-02-12, 05:07 PM
- 39 Members
- anglemark, tiddleyboom, kerry1897, eromsted, jamesabg, SilentInAWay, booksinbed, KimarieBee, smcwl, almigwin, amanda4242, jerry-book, sturlington, cathyta, japaul22, brenzi, clamacchia, ncgraham, souloftherose, Cindy1954, CVido, bw94612, Kristelh, vwinsloe, bwtsang, ahef1963, elia1168, NinieB, linlef, james.proffitt, ryaSilvia, nicolaskowsk, linnzsue, mmseiple, lsah, fredasteele, CTyner, GrimFiend1977, MaureenONeill,henkl ,sjmccreary ,ManWithAnAgenda ,CharlesTheB
- Explicaciones
- tiddleyboom: Have never read Shirley Jackson, but have heard nothing but praise. Definitely on my TBR pile.amanda4242: Better than The Haunting of Hill House.ManWithAnAgenda : Read.
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29,479 miembros
329 reseñas
½ 4.4
Ranking Global 12
Puntuacion 200.63
Añadido 2012-01-09, 08:23 AM
- 86 Members
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