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Read a small section (pages 237-294) of this book while at the NWC in August 2023.

From the S&W syllabus: This selection from Roberts picks up the narrative of the war where Thucydides leaves off to explain the final stages of the Peloponnesian War. Central to the story and eventual Athenian defeat are the crucial naval battles of Arginusae and Aegospotami.
 
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SDWets | 5 reseñas más. | Sep 1, 2023 |
The Peloponnesian War is one of those subjects which, whenever a new book is published about it, begs the question, "do we really need another book on it?" This is understandable considering that 1) having been written about for nearly 2,500 years it has been one of the most worked-over events in human history, 2) the first of these books, Thucydides's [b:History of the Peloponnesian War|261243|History of the Peloponnesian War|Thucydides|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1422072332s/261243.jpg|804111], ranks as one of the foundational texts of Western historiography and in many respects will never be bettered, and 3) recently (i.e. within the past half-century) [a:Donald Kagan|12805|Donald Kagan|https://images.gr-assets.com/authors/1411665575p2/12805.jpg] wrote both a four-volume history of the war AND a single-volume condensed version which are difficult to top as a modern account for the conflict. With all of these books, is there space for another?

The answer, as Jennifer Roberts proves, is a clear yes. She demonstrates this by fitting the conflict within the context of Greek city-state relations in the 5th and 4th centuries BCE. By widening her focus, she shows the war not as the culmination of inter-city-state rivalry as it has sometimes been presented, but as one of a series of conflicts which neither began nor ended with the war itself. This is not a novel revelation (anybody who has more than a passing familiarity with Hellenic Greek history understands this), but by adopting this approach Roberts makes several more obscure points clearer, foremost among them being that Sparta was not so much the ultimate victor as merely temporarily ascendant among the city-states, with their defeat of Athens setting the stage for their own downfall a generation later.

Roberts's approach offers one of the best assessments of the impact of the war upon ancient Greece. While lacking the immediacy of the ancient sources or the thoroughness of Kagan's coverage, she draws upon both sources as well as others to provide a clear-eyed understanding of its true significance. It makes for an excellent resource for anyone seeking to understand a conflict which became one of the great referential points of Western history, because while it may have been only one of many wars the Greeks fought with each other, it has endured in the popular imagination in ways which make it relevant even today.
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MacDad | 5 reseñas más. | Mar 27, 2020 |
An informative, but plodding academic work with a broad scope.
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JayLivernois | otra reseña | Dec 15, 2019 |
This is historiography, i.e. not history but history of history. How was Athenian democracy vieed throughout the 21/2 millennia since it briefly flourished. I knew that Plato didn't like it much and neither did Socrates, if his views can be seen separately..What is surprising is that writers ever since, at least until the 19th century, had little time for it either, preferring Sparta for its discipline and toughness, looking down on its apparent fickle mob rule or looking to Rome for its republican spirit. As for more recent commentators they tend to deny Athens was any kind of democracy because they had slaves and talk as if the Athenians invented slavery- but didn't everybody have slaves?
Elegantly written, with a touch of irony here and thereeven if at times hard to keep up with a string of scholars I've never heard of.Mind you I came to this on the recommendation of Cartledge's more recent book on similar theme, which was impossibly tangled in its own scholarliness.
Best quote in the book, and from an unexpected source:
"The meaning of democracy is precisely that the people, from time to time, should be called upon to judge the achievements and acts of a government, to judge whether the program of the government is of any use, or whether the men are of any use who take it upon themselves to execute that program"
A. Hitler.
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