Kelsey Grammer
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Conocimiento común
- Fecha de nacimiento
- 1955-02-21
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- male
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- St. Thomas, U.S. Virgin Islands
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Acting: 4.0; Theme: 4.5; Content: 4.5; Language: 5.0; Overall: 4.0
Miss Willoughby (Nathalie Cox), was orphaned as a young child and raised by a family friend (Robert Windsor/Kelsey Grammer). She has grown to be a qualified sleuth with extraordinary skills. When a longtime friend of her parents reach out to her to help solve a ghostly case at their bookstore and she quickly offers her detective skills to help solve the case. Recommend.
***June 25, 2023***
Miss Willoughby (Nathalie Cox), was orphaned as a young child and raised by a family friend (Robert Windsor/Kelsey Grammer). She has grown to be a qualified sleuth with extraordinary skills. When a longtime friend of her parents reach out to her to help solve a ghostly case at their bookstore and she quickly offers her detective skills to help solve the case. Recommend.
***June 25, 2023***
Interesting book written and narrated by Kelsey Grammer. Enjoyable story about his life.
Working on a long review of this because boyyyyy
Update (I warned you this was long):
If you think you know Kelsey Grammer from his iconic role as a pompous, pretentious pseudo-intellectual, think again!
He is one thousand times worse.
Take all the arrogance and know-it-allness of Frasier Crane, crank it up to 11, then remove any trace of wit and charm and you'll have someone infinitely more sufferable than Kelsey Grammer.
I didn't go into this book with too many preconceived notions about Kelsey Grammer. I always liked Frasier (the show mainly, not really the character), and just assumed Grammer was in on the joke that Frasier was a stuck up buffoon whose intellectual arrogance consistently led to embarrassing social pratfalls. I heard a few years ago that he was a Republican and thought "awww darn, he probably sucks" and never thought of him again.
From this book I now know that he had a tragic and lonely childhood and used that suffering to fuel his growth into a truly nasty man who blames his many interpersonal problems on everyone other than himself and definitely not his own shitty behaviour, drug and alcohol problems, and mistreatment of women, and who thinks of himself as God's gift to humanity doing His work as an... actor.
Seriously. In his own words:
"It occurred to me, and I know this might sound strange, that I might be Jesus. And I prayed that God would let me know. I didn’t mind the idea of having to die for mankind; I was just sick and tired of not knowing. After a while it became painfully clear that I was not Jesus. That this was not exactly what He had in mind for me. Still, it was the same desire to do good, to serve mankind, if you will, that led me to become an actor."
TO BECOME AN ACTOR!!!!!
You'd might have thought that all the tragedies in his life, multiple family members either murdered or killed accidentally, would have given him some depth of perspective, or at least an interesting take on life, but noooooooo Kelsey Grammer is just another self-obsessed, misogynistic actor who can't imagine any lovelier sight than his own reflection. Or maybe a woman staring lovingly at that reflection saying nothing. Instead of the profound musings on life and love he clearly believes this book to be it is nothing more than a diatribe against every woman he's ever known.
Throughout the book, he skims over the interesting and possibly poignant parts of his life; his father's and sister's murders, his half-brothers' drowning, his struggles with addiction, his sudden rise to fame; and spends most of the book pontificating about his many "spiritual" epiphanies, boasting about shit he achieved by luck, putting down all the women in his life, and dwelling on petty feuds and rivalries.
Sooooo many feuuuuuds... some which made me actually laugh out loud, like when he gets all jealous over Moose, the dog who played Eddie. "The only difficulty I have is when people start believing he's an actor. Acting to me is a craft, not a reflex. It takes years to master, and though it does have its rewards, the reward I seek is not a hotdog. Moose does tricks; I memorize lines, say words, even walk around and stuff. But I don't need a trainer standing off-camera, gesticulating wildly and waving around a piece of meat, to know where I'm supposed to look."
Yes, Kelsey. Congratulations. Your acting requires slightly more work than a dog doing tricks. Have all the non-hotdog rewards.
I think maybe his resentment of Moose has to do with the similarity to the name of his own first dog, Goose, whom he spends more time talking about than anyone else in the whole book. One of his girlfriends "allowed" her to run away, which he never forgave her for. This was so devastating because Goose was his rock, his only touchstone. In fact, his life with his first wife was so miserable that the night he separated from her he took Goose for a walk and she *sob* kissed him and he felt reborn.
Normally an obsession with a dog would endear me to a person, but he shows so much more empathy to Goose, his first "daughter", than to the human women in his life it infuriates me. It's clear that all he wants from women is absolute and unconditional devotion without question or requests for consideration in return. I love this quality about dogs but I would never expect the same behaviour from a human being I claimed to love.
In fact, his voice in the audiobook holds more emotion when he talks about how Goose ran away and was never seen again (entirely his girlfriend's fault, of course) than when he talks about his sister's murder. "I miss Goose in a different way, perhaps, but just as deeply as I do my sister". And then he talks so much more about his sex life than either of them.
Even though so many of the plotlines in Frasier revolved around his own romantic life, I never could imagine him having sex. He just seemed so buttoned up and, well, not that attractive. Yet 80% of what Grammer talks about in this book is sex. I felt compelled to google him after finishing this book so I now know that he has a pattern of dating new, younger women while still in the process of divorcing the old model. He's now on his fourth wife but had just divorced his second when this book came out and was wildly in love with his fiancee at the time (whom he dumped not too long after).
Grammer spends a lot of time talking about his failed relationships and manages to paint himself as the victim in every one, while casually describing his cruel treatment of his partners with zero awareness. Every time he paints himself as the poor beleaguered man struggling to reason with the irrational feelings of human women, ex. "...armed only with my thin rapier of reason against her machine gun of contempt."
And it's surprising how he judges how well his relationships are going by the frequency with which she'll give him sex. His first wife wouldn't let him touch her for a while and he begged and pleaded and thought the relationship was over except for the brief interlude where "things must have been going well" because they conceived a child. He congratulates himself on not having sex with one girlfriend until the second date and concludes that was when they fell in love. Because they had sex.
That same girlfriend is the one who allowed beloved, sainted Goose to run away. And of course Grammer handled that in the best way humanly possible. "The only thing I felt at the time was how much Cerlette(sp?) needed my forgiveness so I forgave her and I vowed to myself no matter how bad things might get between us I would never throw this back at her. But I felt then, as I do now, there was nothing quite so unforgiveable. Cerlette had taken my greatest companion, the dog I cherished more than myself, and lost her. It was careless and selfish and showed a total disregard of me. Cerlette had promised to take care of my dog. She didn't. I know she was miserable about it but there was absolutely no excuse for what she did." How is this not throwing it back at her??? He's held on to this resentment so hard he's calling her out in a published book but he doesn't think he's throwing anything back at her???
This isn't the only time he relates telling the women he was with what they wanted to hear at the time and then getting mad at her later because she doesn't understand his feelings. And somehow he thinks he's the good guy and the victim every time!!?!
Oh, and then he says this. "I'd stay out for nights in a row or pass out on my boat instead. Cerlette accused me of cheating on her, which I had not. But once accused, I thought 'I might as well'". "I THOUGHT 'I MIGHT AS WELL'". And then he got a DUI and it was entirely, 100% her fault
His problems with women, apparently, all stem from the fact that after his father was murdered and his grandfather died, Kelsey had to become "the Man of the House" and his sister, mother, and grandmother all relied on him and asked wayyyyy to much of him. Because of this he's always sought out needy women and put his own needs aside to please them. Ahh yes it is just so hard to deal with the demands of nagging women such as 'please stop staying out all night doing cocaine and crashing cars'. He has such little sense of responsibility that he describes the 11 days he spent in jail on a cocaine possession conviction as "the best 11 days I'd had in years. Life was simple there, not full of turmoil as it was at home. No problems to take care of. No demands to meet. No frantic nights of accusation to bear. It was peaceful there. I was kept fed and warm and found solitude. Something I hadn't had for a long, long time. In jail I had everything I needed. Everything but freedom." We'd all love to just be taken care of and never have to deal with any problems but that's adult life, my dude. That's being in an adult relationship. His most overwhelming burden is having to consider the feelings of the girlfriend he supposedly loves and make the huge compromise of not being an asshole to her.
And what does he think is the appropriate way to treat a woman? Well: "She was everything I'd ever dreamed of. Strong, sexy, independent, outspoken and unafraid of anyone or anything. Best of all, she didn't need me. She had no need at all. They say great actors have great insight. If that's so then I'm a fucking genius. A monument to perspicacity. There was no proof, no behavior to inform me, not a clue to tip me off, but I spotted it. Leanne had need beyond my wildest dreams. I knew it. I could see it buried deep within her and I undertook its excavation. All I had to do was take away her independence. The chief requirement for independence is having one's own money so I insisted she quit her job. It worked."
I'm 70% convinced that Kelsey Grammer lives in a fantasy world of his own making and most of this stuff never happened. Being put in the maximum security wing of the prison because the warden was afraid the guys in the general population "would talk your ear off"? Having the police woman who arrested you for drunk driving tell you "I didn't think you were drunk. If it weren't for your girlfriend making all that fuss..." and telling her "It's not your fault. It's not even entirely hers. I just... stopped thinking."? A writer on Cheers telling you "you're brilliant. We keep having bets to write lines you couldn't possibly make funny and yet you do every time"? Being struck by lightning while riding your motorcycle and being completely fine?????
And this is all before the end where he casually brushes over the fact that in 1993 he was accused of raping the 15-year-old babysitter of his young daughter. I REPEAT: HE WAS ACCUSED OF RAPING HIS 15-YEAR-OLD BABYSITTER. I only learned these details after looking them up because he gives one paragraph to the whole thing, in which he accidentally implies his own guilt while both self-victimizing and self-aggrandizing. What a talent:
"It was on this trip that I met The Girl who has become the topic of so much controversy. And although I've been exonerated by the courts in New Jersey and in Arizona, a fact which was printed but not nearly as publicized as the accusations I endured, there is still a civil suit pending so I cannot go into much detail. I will say this though. The Girl in question is or was a wonderful girl. I met her at a time in my life when my opinion of myself was extremely low and she gave me an extraordinary gift. Through her eyes, for the first time in my life, I could see myself as beautiful. In spite of all that has happened, I still think of her with fondness. And I know as she knows, we did nothing wrong."
I can't begin to describe how much bile this brings to my throat. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AN UNDERAGE GIRL, YOU SHITBAG.
It was interesting to get a glimpse into the mind of a man like this but I wouldn't recommend this book to anyone. Maybe if you're a masochist like me who loves a hateread but, even then, please don't do this to yourself.
Thanks to the googling I did after reading this book I do now know that Kelsey Grammer is a Trump-supporting, Roseanne-defending, anti-choice, serial-cheating, child rapist so that's improved my life a whole lot.
This extremely long review is me holding back on the many other shitty things he revealed about himself in this book for length and my sanity. For now I'm just gonna sit here looking forward to the day #MeToo finally catches up with this asshole.… (más)
Update (I warned you this was long):
If you think you know Kelsey Grammer from his iconic role as a pompous, pretentious pseudo-intellectual, think again!
He is one thousand times worse.
Take all the arrogance and know-it-allness of Frasier Crane, crank it up to 11, then remove any trace of wit and charm and you'll have someone infinitely more sufferable than Kelsey Grammer.
I didn't go into this book with too many preconceived notions about Kelsey Grammer. I always liked Frasier (the show mainly, not really the character), and just assumed Grammer was in on the joke that Frasier was a stuck up buffoon whose intellectual arrogance consistently led to embarrassing social pratfalls. I heard a few years ago that he was a Republican and thought "awww darn, he probably sucks" and never thought of him again.
From this book I now know that he had a tragic and lonely childhood and used that suffering to fuel his growth into a truly nasty man who blames his many interpersonal problems on everyone other than himself and definitely not his own shitty behaviour, drug and alcohol problems, and mistreatment of women, and who thinks of himself as God's gift to humanity doing His work as an... actor.
Seriously. In his own words:
"It occurred to me, and I know this might sound strange, that I might be Jesus. And I prayed that God would let me know. I didn’t mind the idea of having to die for mankind; I was just sick and tired of not knowing. After a while it became painfully clear that I was not Jesus. That this was not exactly what He had in mind for me. Still, it was the same desire to do good, to serve mankind, if you will, that led me to become an actor."
TO BECOME AN ACTOR!!!!!
You'd might have thought that all the tragedies in his life, multiple family members either murdered or killed accidentally, would have given him some depth of perspective, or at least an interesting take on life, but noooooooo Kelsey Grammer is just another self-obsessed, misogynistic actor who can't imagine any lovelier sight than his own reflection. Or maybe a woman staring lovingly at that reflection saying nothing. Instead of the profound musings on life and love he clearly believes this book to be it is nothing more than a diatribe against every woman he's ever known.
Throughout the book, he skims over the interesting and possibly poignant parts of his life; his father's and sister's murders, his half-brothers' drowning, his struggles with addiction, his sudden rise to fame; and spends most of the book pontificating about his many "spiritual" epiphanies, boasting about shit he achieved by luck, putting down all the women in his life, and dwelling on petty feuds and rivalries.
Sooooo many feuuuuuds... some which made me actually laugh out loud, like when he gets all jealous over Moose, the dog who played Eddie. "The only difficulty I have is when people start believing he's an actor. Acting to me is a craft, not a reflex. It takes years to master, and though it does have its rewards, the reward I seek is not a hotdog. Moose does tricks; I memorize lines, say words, even walk around and stuff. But I don't need a trainer standing off-camera, gesticulating wildly and waving around a piece of meat, to know where I'm supposed to look."
Yes, Kelsey. Congratulations. Your acting requires slightly more work than a dog doing tricks. Have all the non-hotdog rewards.
I think maybe his resentment of Moose has to do with the similarity to the name of his own first dog, Goose, whom he spends more time talking about than anyone else in the whole book. One of his girlfriends "allowed" her to run away, which he never forgave her for. This was so devastating because Goose was his rock, his only touchstone. In fact, his life with his first wife was so miserable that the night he separated from her he took Goose for a walk and she *sob* kissed him and he felt reborn.
Normally an obsession with a dog would endear me to a person, but he shows so much more empathy to Goose, his first "daughter", than to the human women in his life it infuriates me. It's clear that all he wants from women is absolute and unconditional devotion without question or requests for consideration in return. I love this quality about dogs but I would never expect the same behaviour from a human being I claimed to love.
In fact, his voice in the audiobook holds more emotion when he talks about how Goose ran away and was never seen again (entirely his girlfriend's fault, of course) than when he talks about his sister's murder. "I miss Goose in a different way, perhaps, but just as deeply as I do my sister". And then he talks so much more about his sex life than either of them.
Even though so many of the plotlines in Frasier revolved around his own romantic life, I never could imagine him having sex. He just seemed so buttoned up and, well, not that attractive. Yet 80% of what Grammer talks about in this book is sex. I felt compelled to google him after finishing this book so I now know that he has a pattern of dating new, younger women while still in the process of divorcing the old model. He's now on his fourth wife but had just divorced his second when this book came out and was wildly in love with his fiancee at the time (whom he dumped not too long after).
Grammer spends a lot of time talking about his failed relationships and manages to paint himself as the victim in every one, while casually describing his cruel treatment of his partners with zero awareness. Every time he paints himself as the poor beleaguered man struggling to reason with the irrational feelings of human women, ex. "...armed only with my thin rapier of reason against her machine gun of contempt."
And it's surprising how he judges how well his relationships are going by the frequency with which she'll give him sex. His first wife wouldn't let him touch her for a while and he begged and pleaded and thought the relationship was over except for the brief interlude where "things must have been going well" because they conceived a child. He congratulates himself on not having sex with one girlfriend until the second date and concludes that was when they fell in love. Because they had sex.
That same girlfriend is the one who allowed beloved, sainted Goose to run away. And of course Grammer handled that in the best way humanly possible. "The only thing I felt at the time was how much Cerlette(sp?) needed my forgiveness so I forgave her and I vowed to myself no matter how bad things might get between us I would never throw this back at her. But I felt then, as I do now, there was nothing quite so unforgiveable. Cerlette had taken my greatest companion, the dog I cherished more than myself, and lost her. It was careless and selfish and showed a total disregard of me. Cerlette had promised to take care of my dog. She didn't. I know she was miserable about it but there was absolutely no excuse for what she did." How is this not throwing it back at her??? He's held on to this resentment so hard he's calling her out in a published book but he doesn't think he's throwing anything back at her???
This isn't the only time he relates telling the women he was with what they wanted to hear at the time and then getting mad at her later because she doesn't understand his feelings. And somehow he thinks he's the good guy and the victim every time!!?!
Oh, and then he says this. "I'd stay out for nights in a row or pass out on my boat instead. Cerlette accused me of cheating on her, which I had not. But once accused, I thought 'I might as well'". "I THOUGHT 'I MIGHT AS WELL'". And then he got a DUI and it was entirely, 100% her fault
His problems with women, apparently, all stem from the fact that after his father was murdered and his grandfather died, Kelsey had to become "the Man of the House" and his sister, mother, and grandmother all relied on him and asked wayyyyy to much of him. Because of this he's always sought out needy women and put his own needs aside to please them. Ahh yes it is just so hard to deal with the demands of nagging women such as 'please stop staying out all night doing cocaine and crashing cars'. He has such little sense of responsibility that he describes the 11 days he spent in jail on a cocaine possession conviction as "the best 11 days I'd had in years. Life was simple there, not full of turmoil as it was at home. No problems to take care of. No demands to meet. No frantic nights of accusation to bear. It was peaceful there. I was kept fed and warm and found solitude. Something I hadn't had for a long, long time. In jail I had everything I needed. Everything but freedom." We'd all love to just be taken care of and never have to deal with any problems but that's adult life, my dude. That's being in an adult relationship. His most overwhelming burden is having to consider the feelings of the girlfriend he supposedly loves and make the huge compromise of not being an asshole to her.
And what does he think is the appropriate way to treat a woman? Well: "She was everything I'd ever dreamed of. Strong, sexy, independent, outspoken and unafraid of anyone or anything. Best of all, she didn't need me. She had no need at all. They say great actors have great insight. If that's so then I'm a fucking genius. A monument to perspicacity. There was no proof, no behavior to inform me, not a clue to tip me off, but I spotted it. Leanne had need beyond my wildest dreams. I knew it. I could see it buried deep within her and I undertook its excavation. All I had to do was take away her independence. The chief requirement for independence is having one's own money so I insisted she quit her job. It worked."
I'm 70% convinced that Kelsey Grammer lives in a fantasy world of his own making and most of this stuff never happened. Being put in the maximum security wing of the prison because the warden was afraid the guys in the general population "would talk your ear off"? Having the police woman who arrested you for drunk driving tell you "I didn't think you were drunk. If it weren't for your girlfriend making all that fuss..." and telling her "It's not your fault. It's not even entirely hers. I just... stopped thinking."? A writer on Cheers telling you "you're brilliant. We keep having bets to write lines you couldn't possibly make funny and yet you do every time"? Being struck by lightning while riding your motorcycle and being completely fine?????
And this is all before the end where he casually brushes over the fact that in 1993 he was accused of raping the 15-year-old babysitter of his young daughter. I REPEAT: HE WAS ACCUSED OF RAPING HIS 15-YEAR-OLD BABYSITTER. I only learned these details after looking them up because he gives one paragraph to the whole thing, in which he accidentally implies his own guilt while both self-victimizing and self-aggrandizing. What a talent:
"It was on this trip that I met The Girl who has become the topic of so much controversy. And although I've been exonerated by the courts in New Jersey and in Arizona, a fact which was printed but not nearly as publicized as the accusations I endured, there is still a civil suit pending so I cannot go into much detail. I will say this though. The Girl in question is or was a wonderful girl. I met her at a time in my life when my opinion of myself was extremely low and she gave me an extraordinary gift. Through her eyes, for the first time in my life, I could see myself as beautiful. In spite of all that has happened, I still think of her with fondness. And I know as she knows, we did nothing wrong."
I can't begin to describe how much bile this brings to my throat. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AN UNDERAGE GIRL, YOU SHITBAG.
It was interesting to get a glimpse into the mind of a man like this but I wouldn't recommend this book to anyone. Maybe if you're a masochist like me who loves a hateread but, even then, please don't do this to yourself.
Thanks to the googling I did after reading this book I do now know that Kelsey Grammer is a Trump-supporting, Roseanne-defending, anti-choice, serial-cheating, child rapist so that's improved my life a whole lot.
This extremely long review is me holding back on the many other shitty things he revealed about himself in this book for length and my sanity. For now I'm just gonna sit here looking forward to the day #MeToo finally catches up with this asshole.… (más)
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