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Charity and Sylvia : a same-sex marriage in early America (edición 2014)

por Rachel Hope Cleves

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Charity and Sylvia is the intimate history of the extraordinary marriage of two ordinary early American women. Their story, drawn from the women's personal writings and other original documents, reveals that same-sex marriage is not as new as we think.
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Título:Charity and Sylvia : a same-sex marriage in early America
Autores:Rachel Hope Cleves
Información:New York : Oxford University Press, 2014.
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Charity and Sylvia: A Same-Sex Marriage in Early America por Rachel Hope Cleves

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Charity Bryant and Sylvia Drake were two women who shared a home for 44-years in Weybridge, Vermont in the first half of the 19th century. They were generally recognized by their community as being in a marriage even if the nature of the relationship was treated more as an open secret. Through a remarkable amount of scholarship, Rachel Hope Cleves exhaustively examined the surviving records of Charity and Sylvia, their families and communities, and other women who were involved in lesbian relationships in the time periods to reframe our understanding of how a same sex marriage could thrive in a time period we'd expect that such a thing would be unthinkable. Interestingly, Charity and Sylvia were able to maintain their good standing in the Weybridge community by being active members in the church. They also became beloved aunts to both their blood relations and many younger members of their community including the young women who apprenticed in their tailor ship. This in an excellent microhistory of the LGBTQ experience in early America. ( )
  Othemts | Sep 3, 2023 |
Reading history books, especially ones like this about the everyday lives of a few people, really makes me want a time machine. The only glimpse we get into their lives is through their writings that survived, and Charity asked a lot of her friends and family to destroy her letters, so there's not always a lot to go on. I want to go back in time and observe them from behind a tree or something. Pretend to be a turn-of-the-19th-century lady and become friends with them. But time travel is impossible I guess, so we just have letters and ledgers and wonderful people like Rachel Hope Cleves to read and interpret them.

Charity and Sylvia had such stressful lives that were yet still full of love and family! They were tailors who worked incredibly long hours to weather all of the financial instability of their time, they couldn't find time to sleep much which made them ill all the time and I can't imagine cutting and sewing fabric for sometimes up to 20 hours a day was great for repetitive stress injuries. Plus all the blood loss, which was prescribed by the doctors of the time FOR EVERYTHING. They were into each other in a way that wasn't socially sanctioned at the time, so they worried about how people would talk about them and about their families not accepting their unorthodox living situation. They agonized for their entire lives about how their lifestyle was an affront to God...they were in constant spiritual pain thinking that their attraction to each other was a major sin and that living as they did made them hypocrites. But, their family (mostly) accepted them, the church loved them, their local community regarded them as beloved aunts to look up to as spiritual mentors, and their contributions meant that everyone was also able to accept them as basically a married couple without having to actually talk about it. They appear to have done good, in comparison to other young ladies who were ostracized for never marrying and deciding instead to work for themselves, and to many of their male family and friends who underwent bankruptcy more than once. Despite their social and spiritual worries, they remained together for 44 years, so it must have been worth it. ( )
  katebrarian | Jul 28, 2020 |
In the first post-Revolutionary generation, Charity and Sylvia met each other—one after a few earlier love affairs, one apparently falling in love for the first time—and pretty immediately moved in together (cue jokes); they never left each other again. Their letters and even some public writing about them reveal that they spoke of each other using the same words opposite-sex spouses did; their families knew that they were to each other what spouses were supposed to be, although no one ever talked about sex. Cleves argues that they were tolerated and even respected because they made themselves helpful community members. Although there was gossip when they were young, when they were together and economically successful as trained seamstresses, the gossip subsided and they were pillars of the community. ( )
1 vota rivkat | Jun 2, 2020 |
This was interesting! There were a lot of cute moments in it, it just wasn't the most mind-blowing thing I've read about this topic. Cleves does a really good job of being accessible and clear with her evidence, and she uses her sources really well--she's uncovered a rich archive and she uses it well. Her engagement with the question of "lesbian" and her use of the term throughout is extremely lacking--I imagine she felt like she didn't need to engage in that debate, but it was definitely an interesting choice to leave it out (especially given her engagement with Faderman at the end.) I think this could be really useful in some history of sexuality or history of marriage classes for undergrads depending on what you pair it with; it's definitely accessible enough for them! ( )
  aijmiller | May 30, 2018 |
We read this for my Lesbian book group, not the best choice, because most of the group found it very dry. It is academic. It apparently won a prize from the Society for Historians of the Early American Republic---they are the kind of historians who study shopping lists, I think. Actually, I did like the book. I imagined I was back in college and reading this for a Women's History class, and kept down the expectations for exciting narrative non-fiction.

The story is interesting. Charity Bryant and Sylvia Drake met in 1807, and soon afterwards moved in together into their own small house. They were able to make a living as seamstresses, and built a life together until Charity's death in 1851. When Sylvia died in 1868, she was buried in the same grave, and the two share a tombstone. Apparently there relationship was accepted and they were well regarded by family and community. Cleves talks about an "open closet," where the community was able to accept the relationship by acknowledging it as like a marriage, but never speaking about the sexual implications. ( )
  banjo123 | Jun 8, 2017 |
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Miss Bryant and Miss Drake were married to each other.
—Diary of Hiram Harvey Hurlburt Jr. (1897)
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They pose gazing at each other; two silhouettes, eyes level, chins uplifted, elegant.
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A Child of Melancholy
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Confined to her bed, where she had remained since the birth of her daughter Charity a month before, thirty-nine year old Silence Bryant lay dying.
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